Topic: Shelᖚy (TPTB_need_war) Psychoanalysis. Smartest Man in the Altcoin Discussions? - page 7. (Read 8853 times)

The problem with Emunie, as I talked about in the IOTA thread, is that any system that doesn't have permanent coin turnover via mining, removes mining completely, or puts some type of abstraction layer between mining and block reward (as in the case of IOTA), is a permissioned ledger.  People got too caught up in trying to improve on consensus mechanisms and forgot what actually constitutes a decentralized currency in the first place.

When Maxwell said he "proved mathematically that Bitcoin couldn't exist" and then it did exist, it was because he didn't take open entropy systems into account.  He already knew stuff like NXT or Emunie could exist, but nobody actually considered them to be decentralized.  They're distributed but not decentralized.  Basically stocks that come from a central authority and then the shareholders attempt to form a nash equilibrium to...siphon fees from other shareholders in a zero sum game because there is no nash equilibrium to be had by outsiders adopting a closed entropy system in the first place...

Take for example the real world use case of a nash equilbrium in finance.  There's many rival nations on earth and they're all competing in currency wars, manipulating, devaluing, etc.  They would all be better off with an undisputed unit of account that the other can't tamper with for trade.  In order to adopt said unit, it would have to be a permissionless system that each nation has access to where one of the group isn't suspected to have an enormous advantage over the others, otherwise they would all just say no.

This is why gold was utilized at all.  Yea, some territories had more than others, but nobody actually knew what was under the ground at the time.  Everyone just agreed it was scarce, valuable, and nobody really had a monopoly on it.  There are really no circumstances where people on an individual level or nation-state level can come together to form any kind of nash equilibrium in a closed entropy system.  The market is cornered by design, and for value to increase, others need to willingly submit to the equivalent of an extortion scheme.  The only time systems like that have value at all is when governments use coercion to force them onto people.

Yeah, you are right, it was quite unfair. We should wait and see how he is progressing.

I agree with you on this. You go to war with the army you have, while working to make it better. Waiting for the perfect language guarantees waiting forever.


This seems somewhat unfair. You can't say what he will or won't do in the future and it isn't fair to criticize someone for what he hasn't done yet. AFAIK, he hasn't launched any coins or released any software (which as you say above, is part of the problem), P&D or otherwise. Please wait until he does something wrong before condemning him for it.

TPTB_need_war is indeed a very smart fellow, most likely the smartest in this whole place. He has a very good understanding of software development and technology ... in theory. He would be a great chief software architect, you know that guy who never delivers anything within the software development team, but everyone is amazed by his intellect and deep understanding of software development and technology.

His post on politics and economy affairs are very interesting, and always a great material.

However, his super intellect and his 160 IQ leads him nowhere.

His financial predictions are completely off the charts and useless. I pointed out in the Armstrong thread how wrong he was about the BTC price in several occasions - still he is marketing himself as a great forecaster. Total nonsense.

On software development, terms of implementation he is hopeless. I read not long time ago, he said none of the popular existing programming languages - which could expose the project to existing developer communities - satisfies his requirements, and therefore he is evaluating now the Rust language/framework. WTF? So he delays his progress again, because right now the programing languages are not suited to his use case. WTF again? It seems he doesn't have the ability to deliver anything, except showcasing his super intellect in this forum.

Terms of his scam busting mission, as I said several times, make no mistake, he is not worried about the scams - in fact he said scams are "part of the game" -, he is just building up his honest and ethical profile, because he is preparing for a P&D to satisfy his "angel investors". Still, he is right about the scams, but he is not so innocent scam busting crusader as he present himself.

On the personal level, - apart from his incoming P&D venture - he is a very nice guy, the BCT forum wouldn't be the same without him.

Interesting, will read! Thanks for posting this.

~CfA~

How's this for a funny coincidence: Last night, to lull myself to bed, I was noodling around the Internet looking for something to read before I called it a night. After some Googling, I came across this thread in which a fellow by the name of Mark Chu-Carroll - "a PhD computer scientist and professional software engineer" - tears into a metaphysical construct called the CTMU that's been put together by one Christopher Michael Langan. For those of you who don't know the name, Mr. Langan is at least arguably the man with the highest I.Q. in America.

http://goodmath.scientopia.org/2011/02/11/another-crank-comes-to-visit-the-cognitive-theoretic-model-of-the-universe/

Of course, Mr. Langan replies - and it's really interesting how the two go at each other. Dr. Chu-Carroll claims that Mr. Langan is glib, stringing together sentences with technical words that he has only a shallow understanding of. Mr. Langan fires back by accusing Dr. Chu-Carroll of not being mentally adroit enough to understand what Mr. Langan has written. (He didn't use the word "stupid," though; he used the word "incompetent.")

Since I.Q. is on the menu in this thread, the above link is a fascinating read - at least, I found it fascinating. In microcosm, it captures the old "smarts vs. acquired knowledge" divide - and of course, the "is he another Galileo or just a crank?" thingie.

It's not directly relevant to the "subject" of the thread, but it does indicate that a stupendous I.Q. is not all that it's cracked up to be.

U can't as of yet. If u wanna learn more about Viᖚes, here's the thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/necash-cash-neteys-or-vies-name-anonymints-vapor-coin-1219023. I think u have participated in that thread b4 tho.

~CfA~

Link please, I want to mine it, or run node or something.

Its all about the altcoin discussions and Shelbys involvement.

The coin is not called  Shelᖚy.   It's called  Viᖚes.

~CfA~

Nevertheless, off topic in this section, unless 'Shelby' is some new coin.

Indeed, thats exactly on point.

Problem is, being a genius and producing nothing is the same as being dumb and producing nothing.  

No possible doubt Shelᖚy is the smartest Man here. Absolutely no doubt his IQ is over 150.

The strange thing about him is that he's an EXTROVERTED GENIOUS, and it's very difficult for these two words to coexist in harmony:

As any other genious, Shelᖚy doesn't care and hates vulgar things from "inferior" people (althought he doesn't say it in public).

The "problem" is that he has an extroverted nature: he needs attention from others, he wants to share things with people, he needs appreciation from people.

And when this two concepts coexist together, the result is an individual as Shelᖚy: A genious that tries to communicate with other people but most times cannot do it because of the notorious "level" difference. Then, when he cannot communicate the way he would like to, he starts getting attention by "trolling" vulgar people (he basically tells them how idiot and wrong they are, with solid arguments).

The question is how is possible for Shelᖚy to be happy (in the sense of spiritual happiness).

The project he's working on pretends to fill this impossible spirit he has. He wants to create a thing that changes millions of people, and he wants to be recognized for it. That's all.


BUT Shelᖚy, you cannot do it alone, even if you have a +300 IQ. To be truly recognized, you must get people into your cause.

WHAT IS YOUR CAUSE?

No problem, hes achieved this Marmite persona where everyone either thinks he's a genius or insane, and nothing in between   So if I can help to balance that back out even a little, then cool!

I want to make a point here that no one realizes; you (and others) have learned a lot, because he is so willing to post and talk (and educate in his own way), but it comes at the cost of progress for him on his project.

I'm not sure if he sees that.  Early on I found myself posting here a LOT, but I quickly noticed that my productivity had dropped, so I stopped posting, and productivity went back up.  

Problem.....its hard to maintain a balance, the more you post, the more threads to keep up with so the more you post.....rinse, repeat.  Best way is to just cut off completely until such a time where you can afford the time cost.

the votes so far do reflect a smilar opinion indeed

~CfA~

I've been here since april 2013, not posting much, just reading a lot...

I have definitely learned the most from TPTB, in my opinion he is the most valuable member on the board by far...

TLDR: that guy is one smart MOFO

There are no negative comments. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and some of the opinions I agree with. Now my Backspace key died, so something needs to change!

fuseleer, thank u very much for providing this very nuanced view.  it helps me a lot to gain a less onesided perspective.

~CfA~

You're welcome  

Please don't take any of my "negative" comments too much to heart, I'm not trying to grind you down or belittle you, just providing a full picture.

Well hes got the potential for sure, praise where it's due.

But I think its pretty obvious that he has focus issues, some of which are of course related to his ill health, but the main issue IMO is that he will spend hours per day on here arguing some trivial point instead of just walking away and getting on with things.

I've had many people tell me that what I'm doing with eMunie isn't possible, instead of spending hours per day arguing with them on a forum trying to convince them, I've gone away and done it.  I'm nearly there and the proof will be in the pudding.

Bottom line, in the time that TPTB has been on here saying hes going to create a game changer, I've gone and potentially made it....make of that what you will.

Look, I don't wanna bust on the guy, quite the opposite, I know he could do something great and it frustrates me that he isn't focusing more on it where needed.