Topic: Should DT and Merit Source Members Be Promoting A Known Scam? - page 5. (Read 2680 times)

Your rating is bullshit. There are no "irrefutable flags" that JollyGood's criticism of Yobit will cause financial damage. You seem to be unable to separate opinion from fact, not a good trait for a DT member.

My ancestors are not from the Middle East, I'm from the Black Sea, but let's not ruin your short-sighted fantasies ...




Nothing to do with retaliation, everything written there is the absolute truth, try it sometime, it might make a man out of you yet marlboroza... Good Luck

I completely agree. Diabolical behaviour for a DT account - Theymos/admins should take action.

Tagged & ignored.

Isn't Yahoo DT member and Yobit campaign manager also?
People are talking bad about everyone else except about Yahoo, that is something like taboo

I don't like yobit, but I think opening so many topics about it you give it free advertisement.

Thank you TMAN. I definitely agree with you that everybody should get a chance or more to make things right. Maybe one day wolwoo will be able to calm down and articulate his views in a more friendly manner which will bring him closer to the global forum members and not just in his local language board which will allow the healing process to start.

So far it seems like when he was banned from the Yobit campaign he simply cracked, expressed aggression along with volatility and some profanities, then took on a personal fight against some in the English/Global boards because some highly respected members (and some slightly lesser members including myself) deemed him unsuitable for the DT position that he had after some manipulation took place to get him there. Some of us also objected to his aim of becoming Merit Source so he maintained a very aggressive stance towards us.

Bringing the main issue from the OP back in to this, Vispilio could and should have used his special relationship to ask wolwoo to take a step back and relax but chose to subtly egg him on.

And regardless of what else might or might not be going on in the background, it is clear Vispilio has demonstrated he is not suitable for any responsible role such as Merit Source or DT after promoting a project that he himself cited as a scam.

Meh, I doubt that.  I don't think slamming Yobit would enhance anyone's chances to get in to the Chipmixer campaign, nor would DarkStar_ probably even notice that stuff.  I'm sure he's busy with other things and he doesn't usually post in these drama-filled threads.

Internet tough guy in the house.  But somehow I think you're so offended by this precisely because it hurts your chances to keep making money from Cryptotalk/Yobit.  Talk about getting uppity for a few pennies more, eh?  What would your middle eastern ancestors think about that?

WtF is chipmixer doing in yobit's thread again?



Now that is retaliatory feedback and is shows very bad judgement of DT member.

@Vispilio, when you say that something which you are advertising is running some kind of financial pyramid scam, and you keep advertising such service for your own financial gain no matter what, it makes you associate in a crime.

I have no idea about whether any other forums are allowing Yobit to promote their signature or not but it would no doubt be showing on their own cryptotalk forum.

With evidence mounting many people will have no choice but to concur when you say there is no borderline and is an out-an-out scam. For me, it already is a scam.

Having said that the thread is about a DT member who has stated he knows Yobit is a scam yet has continued to promote it and added that victims are to blame for getting scammed as well as adding a known fake trust circle member and merit abuser to his trust list (wolwoo):


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Anybody that has responsibility as DT might end up having (for one reason or another) a highly aggressive foul-mouthed user on their trust list, maybe it can happen but no responsible DT member can have a user who was caught out being part of a merit abuse and fake trust circle on his own trust list and add the following glowing feedback for him which could not be further from the truth and that is highly irresponsible, not the action of a DT member. I certainly would not describe wolwoo as:

"A really clever and good-natured individual who has brought a much needed air of goodwill and camaraderie to the local and global forum. Highly reliable conduct in all of his actions I've witnessed so far. "

I also retract the bad words I extended towards you.

You are obviously a very educated and smart guy, and seeing you so many times side with people who are showing extreme prejudice to your neighbors is leading to some emotional reactions  ...

ps. I never bring anyone's race or ethnicity into the debate, unless it was mentioned specifically by them or brought into the discourse for other reasons previously, just to clear the air before the NPC trolls get triggered again...

Bravo you fired the only man who defended yobit
  I go and wearing chipmixer (it's a joke)

I like yobit

Wolwoo is out of the campaign, if he continues wearing the sig I cannot stop him.

No members should be wearing this, never mind someone on DT! promoting yocunts is one thing, promoting something that is an obvious scam is something else - I actually think OP did a good job of bringing this to light, simple solution is for wolwoo to remove the sig and move on. In the future he needs to be careful with what he promotes, everyone gets a chance to make things right surely?

DT or Not. None should promote a known scam.

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BTW, does this really belong to Meta  If a DT is doing wrong, start a thread in Reputation, convince other DT members to add him to the distrust list. Simple as that. Why drag this to Meta?

This is a great point! The underlying root cause of the YoBit spammers promoting a scam exchange is they want to receive the monitory reward that Yobit pays out. I agree that wolwoo should immidiately remove his signature and maybe the OP will forgive him.

Even if you give YoBit the maximum benefit of the doubt, they are still very shady and have engaged in many pump and dump scams and appear to be willing to sell a listing on their exchange for next to nothing. I don’t think YoBit being a scam is even boarder line, it is very clear cut. I think YoBit should be transparently a scam to everyone else. This is not me trying to sow discord within those promoting this exchange.

I don’t think Rodger Ver is allowing YoBit to advertise on his forum.

I will admit the only person I saw wearing that signature was wolwoo.  If you did not, then please accept my apology for suggesting you did.

So here is a DT member that likes playing the the "race" card himself (just as wolwoo does) as and when he feels like it but has decided to use race/heritage himself in a reply to a post that contained nothing worthy of getting aggressive for.

There was no need to mention any racial heritage or background but those with petty, low levels of thinking and a false sense of either racial, religious or class superiority or are living with self-bloated belief of hierarchical existence over others just might keep bringing up race as and when it suits their mood.

Retaliatory feedback is not permitted. I gave him plenty of time between tagging him today and tagging his close friends including wolwoo nearly a whole month ago but he did not leave any negative trust for me. As soon as I created this thread I tagged him appropriately and then he leaves retaliatory feedback even though it is not allowed. Another clear reason why this user should not be on DT.

Never have I said Yobit is a scam, or blamed the "victims" or any of your other insane stories. Who are these fictitious victims by the way ?   

You start a false narrative then come to write novels about it every day here, you are either a child or a certifiable lunatic who needs help, how did you ever get on DT ?..

If lunatics like this guy are allowed to run rampant and smear and slander everyone as they see fit (or as they are ordered to do so by their puppet masters),
then soon no one will be able to take this forum seriously,

When does admin & staff feel it's high time to interfere ?...

A user cannot be reasonably expected to have to come here and respond to the craziest of stories every day just to maintain a reputation on an internet forum... Certainly the responsibility falls at least partially to paid staff members to keep the sanity of this place in check, wouldn't you agree ?..

Yes it worked very well with regards to wolwoo because he was not a suitable candidate by any stretch of the imagination.

Anger issues and throwing the race card around for diversion tactics when all else fails are not a sign of clear judgement, nor is the manner is which he seems to find nothing wrong with what his close ally from the local board wolwoo is doing, hence the trust he left for him:




Going back to main point raised in the OP, it is clear that a DT member has openly said/accepted he knows he is promoting a scam. Instead of stopping he has decided to blame victims for getting scammed.



You are right the user does not seem to be spamming in the forum but he has stated of his own accord that to him Yobit is a scam but for some inexplicable reason (other than making money) he continues to promote it and decides victims are to blame if they get scammed - therefore the question arises if this is the sort of user that should be on DT?

In my opinion it is a categoric "no" he should not be on DT therefore I asked the question in the OP hoping for a general consensus.



All users who promote scams should be held to account but the difference between those that promote it in the belief it is not a scam versus those that promote it knowing it is a scam are two different things altogether. The distinction between the two is huge. In the case of  Vispilio he has made it clear he believes Yobit is a scam and is happy to blame victims for falling to the scam that he promotes. In the case of other users, I have not read them say they believe they are promoting a scam (maybe just wolwoo who in one of the threads linked in the OP might have let it slip once or twice while he was spouting profanities or being highly obnoxious).

To be on DT means having extra responsibility and being extra careful about the manner in which you conduct yourself. Even if all other bits of questionable conduct from Vispilio might be overlooked for the sake of benefits of doubts, I believe there no way whatsoever that any user who admits or accepts that they willing and knowingly are promoting a scam (and furthermore blame victims for getting scammed) should be on DT.

And I agree with you, I think those on MS and DT should be held to a higher standard because there is responsibility attached in the manner in which they conduct themselves.

I neither defended nor promoted the X10 signature, I can only surmise that your shameless lie, as well as the entirety of the slanderous fictive scenarios that the troll JollyGood spits out on a daily basis are at least partially motivated by the petty games you play to win a coveted spot from the Chipmixer signature...

Your Middle Eastern ancestors would spit on your face if they knew you would stoop to dishonorable lies for a few dollars more,
and I promise you I would teach you a lesson that your ancestors would be proud of, if you were to try any of this duplicitous bullshit in person, Mr. DireHyena...

Oh I didn’t even see that, shit I don’t have the headspace or time for this. But maybe a full on yobit ban is due