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Topic: Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order? - page 2. (Read 7830 times)

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Now I finally do understand what you guys thought. That Avalon had shipped mine at that time? Strange idea but okay.

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Alright, Slok,

Lets go with your twisted perception of what my post meant. How would your perception of my action be any different than BFL shipping a handful of prototype units to reviewers and non-customers while stating they are starting shipping? (just after they admit that Paypal is waving a threatening stick at them for not having shipped)

Making two blog posts on their forum that they have "shipped out units" and then...stating they won't be bothering to continue stating how many are going out each day. (Just when the number of prototypes ran out!)

Telly me there is no false pretense being weaved...please say it to me....

Can you explain to me which is the bigger fraud? My posting of a part of JGarziks DHL notice and saying everyone is waiting to see this kind of notice. Or BFL shipping a few prototypes to some people who hadn't even ordered them just to make it seem like they have something to ship...or make appearances that they are about to ship en masse....only to then stop for well close to a month when they ran out of protoypes?

Tell me, which is far more deceptive?



Mining with a customer's ASIC is more deceptive.  By a long shot.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2175901
Are you aware that all units are tested prior to shipment? You can't make the leap that they have been tested on mainnet simply because the unit is filled with dust. It's a long extension even for a shill from BFL.

His was damaged and he definitely needs a replacement, ASAP.

Weren't they supposed to be delivered with the innards covered also?

It looks like an intercept and someone having fun with it to me... and then bad packaging which led to destruction...
legendary
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Now I finally do understand what you guys thought. That Avalon had shipped mine at that time? Strange idea but okay.

--------------------------

Alright, Slok,

Lets go with your twisted perception of what my post meant. How would your perception of my action be any different than BFL shipping a handful of prototype units to reviewers and non-customers while stating they are starting shipping? (just after they admit that Paypal is waving a threatening stick at them for not having shipped)

Making two blog posts on their forum that they have "shipped out units" and then...stating they won't be bothering to continue stating how many are going out each day. (Just when the number of prototypes ran out!)

Telly me there is no false pretense being weaved...please say it to me....

Can you explain to me which is the bigger fraud? My posting of a part of JGarziks DHL notice and saying everyone is waiting to see this kind of notice. Or BFL shipping a few prototypes to some people who hadn't even ordered them just to make it seem like they have something to ship...or make appearances that they are about to ship en masse....only to then stop for well close to a month when they ran out of protoypes?

Tell me, which is far more deceptive?



Mining with a customer's ASIC is more deceptive.  By a long shot.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2175901
Are you aware that all units are tested prior to shipment? You can't make the leap that they have been tested on mainnet simply because the unit is filled with dust. It's a long extension even for a shill from BFL.

His was damaged and he definitely needs a replacement, ASAP.
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Now I finally do understand what you guys thought. That Avalon had shipped mine at that time? Strange idea but okay.

--------------------------

Alright, Slok,

Lets go with your twisted perception of what my post meant. How would your perception of my action be any different than BFL shipping a handful of prototype units to reviewers and non-customers while stating they are starting shipping? (just after they admit that Paypal is waving a threatening stick at them for not having shipped)

Making two blog posts on their forum that they have "shipped out units" and then...stating they won't be bothering to continue stating how many are going out each day. (Just when the number of prototypes ran out!)

Telly me there is no false pretense being weaved...please say it to me....

Can you explain to me which is the bigger fraud? My posting of a part of JGarziks DHL notice and saying everyone is waiting to see this kind of notice. Or BFL shipping a few prototypes to some people who hadn't even ordered them just to make it seem like they have something to ship...or make appearances that they are about to ship en masse....only to then stop for well close to a month when they ran out of protoypes?

Tell me, which is far more deceptive?



Mining with a customer's ASIC is more deceptive.  By a long shot.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2175901
legendary
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Now I finally do understand what you guys thought. That Avalon had shipped mine at that time? Strange idea but okay.

--------------------------

Alright, Slok,

Lets go with your twisted perception of what my post meant. How would your perception of my action be any different than BFL shipping a handful of prototype units to reviewers and non-customers while stating they are starting shipping? (just after they admit that Paypal is waving a proverbial threatening stick at them for not having shipped)

Making two blog posts on their forum that they have "shipped out units" and then...stating they won't be bothering to continue stating how many are going out each day. (Just when the number of prototypes ran out!)

Tell me...there is no false pretense being weaved...please say it to me....

Can you explain to me which is the bigger fraud? My posting of a part of JGarziks DHL notice and saying everyone is waiting to see this kind of notice. Or BFL shipping a few prototypes to some people who hadn't even ordered them just to make it seem like they have something to ship...or make appearances that they are about to ship en masse....only to then stop for well close to a month when they ran out of protoypes? (35 units)

Tell me, which is far more deceptive?

legendary
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I skimmed,

I don't think I have ever posted in that section. All I saw was a wrenchmonkey getting bent over a table by other community members about his comments in support of BFL.

I guess blowing smoke is all you have left. Kinda sad....
The sadness is on you, man> BFL's empty box was obviously a joke, you on the other hand:
Don't worry Puerto you will eventually get your Avalon once they start building them.
Now they have the funds from batch #2 to pay for them it shouldn't be too long now..........


I think everyone is waiting for this kind of notice! Grin
Besides, what's with the advertising for BFL through your sig?
"I think it's fair to warn everybody reading here that MORE PREORDERS should be placed until they are READY to.. etc"?? More pre-orders should be placed?

Come on, only 38 out of your last 40 posts are about BFL, you can do better.
That was a clipping from JGarziks DHL tracking number. I couldn't post all of it because it has his info on it.

So when I said everyone is waiting for this, yeah, everyone is. If you all interpreted in some twisted way then please seek a psychiatrist or local psychoanalyst.
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Christian Antkow
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Besides, what's with the advertising for BFL through your sig?
"I think it's fair to warn everybody reading here that MORE PREORDERS should be placed until they are READY to.. etc"?? More pre-orders should be placed?

Come on, only 38 out of your last 40 posts are about BFL, you can do better.

How can you be willing to be so ignorant?  I know sarcasm generally has a hard time being communicated over the internet, but that sig just screamed it.

Also, people aren't allowed to talk about the negative aspects of BFL in BFL forums, unless they get banned or punished.  So it happens here, for anyone wondering about BFL's connection to bitcoin.

Like nature intended.
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I skimmed,

I don't think I have ever posted in that section. All I saw was a wrenchmonkey getting bent over a table by other community members about his comments in support of BFL.

I guess blowing smoke is all you have left. Kinda sad....
The sadness is on you, man> BFL's empty box was obviously a joke, you on the other hand:
Don't worry Puerto you will eventually get your Avalon once they start building them.
Now they have the funds from batch #2 to pay for them it shouldn't be too long now..........


I think everyone is waiting for this kind of notice! Grin
Besides, what's with the advertising for BFL through your sig?
"I think it's fair to warn everybody reading here that MORE PREORDERS should be placed until they are READY to.. etc"?? More pre-orders should be placed?

Come on, only 38 out of your last 40 posts are about BFL, you can do better.
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Notice what Josh has in his hands. Even though we can't see it, you probably can safely assume it's a quarter for Bryan, accompanied with a well-rehearsed line involving a clue. I believe Josh got the entire idea from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFH4DszUj2A

Pay special attention to ~1:24.
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
This is best Josh and BFL box of fans video yet; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4SnUObMd0o
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Is it me or are Smoothie and Puerto Libre's ignore icon's getting LESS yellow in inverse proportion to the number of days and weeks BFL fails to ship?
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Christian Antkow
Want to see something really sad?
This is what BFL introduced at CES 2013...at about January or February 2013...some 3 or 4 months after customers were supposed to get their devices.
THIS IS NO JOKE!

 That is indeed sad and embarrassing  Undecided But I guess when you inherently have no concept of shame...

 At least Josh did recently admit that their ceasing production of FPGA units was a mistake in retrospect - Smartest thing the man has said this year so far.
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Want to see something really sad?

This is what BFL introduced at CES 2013...at about January or February 2013...some 3 or 4 months after customers were supposed to get their devices.

THIS IS NO JOKE!



What? You don't believe me do you? Okay, here is a video I found in about five seconds on Youtube showing the case of fans at CES (with cover on).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujl-_F7D724

Guess what? Yeah, I pulled up the video in Youtube by these search terms: "CES Box of Fans"

Yes, I am not kidding...go try it out yourself.
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So much fail in the above post, I don't even know where to start.

I have an idea Tehfiend, if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?


You never seem to know where to start with my posts do you? Don't worry, I had already moved my investment from BFL to Bitsyncom before I even learned about the nature of your character. You obviously have no intention of addressing any of the points I have made so good luck Josh. I hope BFL can succeed despite you...

And... another former BFL customer... that seems like a trend.
legendary
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I skimmed,

I don't think I have ever posted in that section. All I saw was a wrenchmonkey getting bent over a table by other community members about his comments in support of BFL.

I guess blowing smoke is all you have left. Kinda sad....

Do you want me to post the joke DHL notice that shows Avalon delivering to BFL? Sure?

Here it is:



Was this what has got you all worked up, Slok? Is that the great controversy of smoke billowing from thy bottom?

This was posted by Josh weeks before I posted my joke post....

legendary
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After PuertoLibre's fake avalon/dhl shipping notice, (yes, that low can someone's self esteem sink), this is a good joke too:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2100103

Hahaha! That's awesome. He wants to defame the company and do nothing but complain, but then he gets all butthurt when they tell him to take his business elsewhere!

"I hate you and your company so much, but don't you DARE tell me I can't buy your products!" The hypocrisy is overwhelming!

I have, as a business owner myself, had the wonderful satisfaction of telling the very rare disagreeable customer to take their money and get the fuck out. The reaction is always PRICELESS. You're not entitled to force me into an abusive customer/business relationship. If you're unhappy, I'll try and make you a happy customer. If you're going to be a prick, I'll save us both some time, and you can go be somebody else's problem.

99.999% of all of my customer interactions are amicable, and most 'dissatisfied' customers are easily turned into satisfied customers with very little effort, a little dialogue, and compromise on both sides. It doesn't always involve me giving exactly what they asked for in their complaint.

If I have a delay in being able to fill somebody's order, I give them a choice of a refund, or waiting it out. Regardless, the choice is in their hands. If they believe that my product is worth waiting for, they will. If not, they can seek other arrangements. Most rational human beings can understand that.

I have a customer who has been waiting on a $2900 order since September (This is a customer who orders $20,000 worth of products a year through me), when the original estimated delivery time was back in December. Every few weeks, I provide an update on the fact that I'm STILL waiting on a supplier to provide his order to me, and EVERY TIME I offer to refund him if he doesn't feel like waiting anymore. And EVERY TIME, he thanks me for the offer but chooses to continue with his order, as my price is competitive with everybody else, and he's not likely to get it much faster anywhere else. Keep in mind that due to government paperwork, that even AFTER his order gets to me, it will still be tied up in bureaucratic red tape for another 3-4 Months, even if it showed up TODAY.

If, for some reason, he started trolling forums and defaming my business, calling me a scammer, etc, etc. I would write him a refund check, PRONTO, and tell him that his customer privileges have been revoked. Then again, he's not an asshole, so I can't see this ever happening.

I fully support BFL's response to the idiots who want to go around trashing them, but also think they are entitled to continue to buy whatever they want from them. The world doesn't owe you anything. BFL doesn't owe you anything. Learn to watch what you say about people that you want to do business with, because business is a two-way street. You have the right to take your business elsewhere, but business owners have the right to send you packing as well. I love it when a company owner has the cajones to remind imbeciles of that fact from time to time.

The Westboro Baptist church went to a town near where I grew up one time, to spew their hate at whatever random event was happening that day (military funeral, I believe). Somebody cut 2 of their tires.

The WBCers drove all around town on 2 flat tires trying to find a tire shop to buy tires from. Every single tire shop they stopped at recognized them and told them they weren't worthy to be their customers.

They finally ended up going to Wal-Mart, who has no standards, and is used to interacting with trash, and got some tires. As far as I know, they've never been back to McAlester Oklahoma. Wink
No clue where you guys are referencing from. The links you guys are using are not even mine or anything to do with me.

Keep trying though?
legendary
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After PuertoLibre's fake avalon/dhl shipping notice, (yes, that low can someone's self esteem sink), this is a good joke too:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2100103
Have I missed something Slok?

You keep linking to one of Jordans posts....what does that have to do with me? (enlighten me?)

I think you might be desperate at this point.
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After PuertoLibre's fake avalon/dhl shipping notice, (yes, that low can someone's self esteem sink), this is a good joke too:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2100103

Hahaha! That's awesome.

I don't know what your incentive is, but I can't think of any incentive of my own that would make someone want to express what I've expressed and not have experienced it.

I'm not here to prove anything to you directly, but I do believe my words should speak for themselves.  Maybe you think I recently ordered, and want everyone to believe BFL is a scam so BFL crashes and nobody gets their ASIC?  Maybe it's just personal, and me and Josh know each other outside of BFL?

Whatever the case, I'm disappointed by the outcome.

AREN'T YOU?
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