Topic: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? (Read 1318 times)

Maybe all those complaints are people who had their accounts blocked for trying to deposit coin with a shady history (stolen coin). Or maybe all those complaints are from people unable to complete KYC when they should have to.

I don't think any benefit of the doubt overcomes this issue.

YoBit's business practice of having ~zero customer support also has opened a window of opportunity for scammers to impersonate their customer support, and this fact makes it more dangerous to do business with YoBit.

Well to be fair you could probably do the same with any exchange and you'll find people complaining about them being a scam or in some other capacity. If someone has their coins stolen or account locked users often blame the operators and are quick to claim a scam even when they did nothing wrong. I think most of yobit's complaints come from them seemingly being a bit shady and unorganised, and being unregulated they don't have to adhere to the same standards many others do. I don't think they exactly run a water-tight ship but I'm not sure I'd call them a scam exchange either, though I haven't looked in depth to any of the complaints people have about them, but you also often don't know the full picture. I'm sure many scammers themselves start crying when an exchange locks their funds or whatever. I remember when people were quick to attack Cloudbet when they locked a users coins because there was something shady going on and two different parties were trying to claim the money. Many users were quick to call Cloudbet a scam but they were actually doing the right thing in trying to get to the bottom of who the funds rightfully belonged to rather than just possibly sending them to a scammer.

If you google "Cloudbet scam" the first thing that comes up is this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-cloudbet-scam-no-more-access-to-my-account-5124896

But if you read the later posts in the thread you'll see it was quickly resolved.

Too many scam allegation to yobit for years, But you see there are many users still using it. I don't know myself either why they still trade on yobit. I do have my experience before on yobit and it's quite fine though. Not having problems at all, but I have stopped because I don't want to be a victim, Just a safety precaution.

Just type as Yobit scam accusation in google then you can find lot of threads regarding their bad reputation.

Anyway some threads for your view

Yobit scam ? Trade lost money
Yobit SCAM - SYSCOIN withdrawal
1000+ ETH blocked: Yobit.net won't explain or resolve
YOBIT scam - class action law suit
YoBit seems wants to steal my money. Are they scammed?
Scam market YObit.net and YObit.io
Yobit.Net Scamming My Deposit

source this post : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38799090

But none claimed that they were completely scam exchange neither they run away from user's money,they still operating and their daily trading volume is huge.

Anyone that has spend some time on the forum engaging in the activities of the forume most have hear or encountered the accusations against yobit exchange. Easily, you can track most of the accusations from the reference you'll find on the yobit main account on the forum, here's a link to their trust feedback: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594

Some more references;
Still though, signature is a privilege and isn't moderated therefore, anyone is free to wear any signature they deem fit and doesn't go against advertisement policy on the forum but that doesn't mean you should abuse that privilege by spamming the forum.

I have seen in some users' comments in this thread and others' that YoBit would be a semi-scam exchange. What are the arguments for that? Did they had an unpleasant event in the past for the users or closed people accounts without notice? I'm just asking because I'm curious to see if these are just words in vain and pressumptions or they're actually facts..

I think that is how do you feel when writed this line  


But in fact, it's not too late, because above my post (this) there already 2 post while you already have got your answer. maybe it's good time to lock this thread? Just asking.

Edit: Ah shit, here we go again

Since your thread was for the previous campaign of YoBit I would say that you shouldn't fear to get tagged by a DT member as long as you take this "job" seriously and you won't spam and abuse the campaign.
Now a new campaign has started and would be nice to keep things clean, make good posts with actual value that help other users with providing information, help Yahoo to find the spammers and simply PM him. Also would be nice if all the participants would make maximum 2 posts per hour and won't try to go for the maximum of 20 posts/day as this in my opinion is the first sign of spam and abuse the campaign.
 
Personally I take this very serious, I take time to think and research before I post, browse the forum in searching of users who are bursting because they are so many ( 8 of these found today ) who enrolled and so many will come in the next days and watch out for old accounts who did not post for at least 4+ months.

You can also follow this thread and make a post there with your list of users who you think they don't deserve to be in the campaign or they need to be warned out -->

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52596878

I think you already get a number positive replies here that you should not leave yobit.
This is a good campaign since it might last longer like the first campaign they have in the forum, yahoo who manage the campaign is a reputable one and he is a DT, just think this way, do you think he will accept the job to manage the campaign if his reputation will be at stake here?

Yes, I am referring to yahoo62278. I think you are arguing semantics, if he has the power to remove someone from the campaign, he has the defacto ability to accept someone because he could remove someone immediately who he does not want to accept. I have also noticed that he does not handle payments on most signature campaigns he runs, the payments are rather handled, and credited on the website platform of the company that is paying for the advertising.

Nevertheless, he is associating his reputation with YoBit, which is not beneficial to him. YoBit has a history of conducting business unethically, and anyone helping YoBit run its business, including helping with a signature campaign is furthering these unethical business practices, even if not directly participating in the unethical behavior personally.

Specify pls. One feedback from famous russian troll who calls that Craig Wrigth is real Satoshi (KTChampion), also there few feedback from russian curse - user korner who famous because he one time created around 200 flags in one night and spam Archive thread (and now, he with his alts which left those feedbacks are banned)

Obvious, that those feedbacks is inaccurate at all. What also do you see in my trust page, ah?


Dude, I have earned 500 merits mostly (except Vadi's merits) for my technical and helpful posts (Coding, Ideas, Bitcoin Discussion, Beginners and Help, Wall observer in russian local).

While you have only 19 merits.


Others doing the same, with their Chipmixer, Wolfbet and other signatures. Those, who have pride and honesty understand it, just don't talk about it. Of course, some people really think that their posts in meta or reputation is valuable more than others.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK


Really, my bad. I don't look into date of creation
But, anyway, it was not me who wrote here first  


It's normal. I've showed my view you're free to accept it or do not.
You also forgot to lock thread

By checking your trust page, i can understand your approach. Greed ! And i don't think your technique would succeed under Yahoo's management. Even you create high quality posts, it will be easy to catch for a professional quality checker.
What you have just described is what others fights against, and they call it "Spam behaviors". I created this topic last April to discuss about leaving the Yobit campaign (Please re-read OP) after i joined it for one or two days. I wasn't intended to make more posts by creating this topic and as i mentioned before am not an English native speaker and not that active in the forum as you can note by checking my post history since i recovered my accout, so i can just create 4 to 5 posts daily at max.

I wish i could thank you for your honest reply, but Indeed i didn't really like how you see things, so i will lock this thread again so you can't get the chance to make another post.  update:  late to do.

But i see. To write post for signature campaign without beign marked as a spammer  
Boards like "reputation", "Meta", "Bitcoin discussion" and other are pretty convenient to this  

Look, there only few users without signature that post in that thread. OP ,for example, has written already 5 post. A little more posts, or another such topic and ta-da - 20 messages  

Also, such topics creates ecosystem where all participants have their profit. OP get his post, you get yours, and i get one mine. Real non zero sum game. 

Moderators never tag a user just because they join a signature campaign though.

There was one problem before and that's the lack to hire a repetative manager that leads the last campaign in chaos. everyone including negative members can wreck havock on the forum.

Thankfully they hire the right manager to handle the job. that's why, I join their campaign too because when Yahoo is the Captain all of the shit posters will not get on board.

It is nice to join their campaign without a fear on getting tag by the Mod.

I tend to agree with what you wrote.  There's nothing wrong with being in a sig campaign if you're a good poster--unfortunately the Yobit campaign has historically recruited the dregs of the forum (with some exceptions, of course). 

I would also argue that it's not only important that the participant be comfortable promoting Yobit, but also that the community doesn't think they're a scam exchange.  The risk is that the campaigner might get tagged for being in the campaign.  There was a lot of discussion about that the last time around.  Personally, I don't think they're truly scammers.  They just have abysmal customer service and awful business practices to boot.  But they do provide a useful service to a lot of people, and I know there are many satisfied customers--me among them, because I've used them a lot in the past for small trades.

Good luck, and I would advise you to make above-average quality posts.  Last time a bunch of members got temp banned if they had reports made against them which were marked as good.  You don't want to chance that happening again.

As i assumed before, i used Yobit for small trades but never involved in shitty tokens investment, as i would also agree that any scam project can get his token listed for trade in Yobit but don't know if any trouble may occur during withdraws/deposits processes i didn't face any, since 2017) .
Last April when i joined the Yobit campaign, i opened a support ticket to ask if they are willing to prepare a set of rules for the campaign or hiring someone to do it but i didn't receive a response. And as o.e.l.e.o said, they seems not interested to build a perfect reputation.

I have just joined the campaign again and this is my first post  wearing the cryptotalk signature; i will watch if it will be counted before continue posting.

Thank you all for responding.

If you are referring to yahoo, he has made it quite clear that he is not running the campaign, choosing participants, organising payments, and so forth. He simply has the power to ban spammers from the campaign:


In terms of YoBit protecting their reputation, I think it's been pretty clear from the get-go that they neither have a reputation nor care about building one. They were quite happy to spam the forum at length with their first campaign, despite all the negativity it caused before they were banned, and they were quite happy to return with essentially the exact same campaign a second time. Their modus operandi is to spam their banner in as many places as possible to attract naive newbies, since no one who has been around for any length of time is going to touch them.

I would hope so. The person running the signature campaign seems to have a decent amount of positive rep, and I would assume he would care about the answer to this question before associating himself with a company. I would also think YoBit themsleves would want this addressed to protect their own brand and reputation.

@OP, if you are convinced that they are legit and deserve to be promoted and you are not going to spam the forum or post extra posts just to get few bucks then you can join their signature campaign. It is easy as that.

Regarding the negative feedbacks you received, I think they had to talk with you and explain why you should leave the campaign before tagging your account.

Do you really expect to receive an answer for your question?!