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Topic: Should merit be disabled on Bitcoin Wall Observer? - page 2. (Read 1407 times)

legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 12081
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Thing is, if me and my friends did the same thing but outside of WO we would definitely get banned, thats my problem here
You are incorrect because you are proposing a result to a hypothetical. For one, I have seen posts outside of the WO thread that are not of "high quality". Shitposts, even, that were merited.

Nobody really gives a shit anymore about merit, do they?
It's also a bit strange to be meriting people like El duderino_ when they have >4000 merit. What are they going to do with it? Roll Eyes

(case in point: merit doesn't matter to a lot of these users)

Howhowhow.......don’t point at me, I only entered this thread to gain merit bruh.... I’m in love with my merit whoreacracy.....

Life = merit.... that’s what the guy is pointing out isn’t it....

>4000 still isn’t >5000

 Cool Roll Eyes
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2504
Spear the bees
Its not a hypothetical, people have been banned and flagged and distrusted for merit farming before.
There it is! The equivalence between 'merit farming' and the WO thread!

Tell me... what do these users without any merit-based incentives plan on doing with their merit other than to use it in the form of "likes" on the WO thread?

also if merit really doesnt matter to them i dont understand why they would be so opposed to disabling merit on the thread
"I could live with or without an extra lamp. I would like to keep it, though."
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2504
Spear the bees
Thing is, if me and my friends did the same thing but outside of WO we would definitely get banned, thats my problem here
You are incorrect because you are proposing a result to a hypothetical. For one, I have seen posts outside of the WO thread that are not of "high quality". Shitposts, even, that were merited.

Nobody really gives a shit anymore about merit, do they?
It's also a bit strange to be meriting people like El duderino_ when they have >4000 merit. What are they going to do with it? Roll Eyes

(case in point: merit doesn't matter to a lot of these users)
sr. member
Activity: 505
Merit: 270
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Your registration date is from mar 2018 and you are suggesting to close one of the best threads with the most visits Roll Eyes
 in a forum with:
55,085,986 Posts
1,259,723 Topics
2,834,026 Members
Check some of the WO profiles and look at the registration dates, some of them are part of Bitcointak and Bitcoin
Find another topic that is a real problem on the forum and help solve it,you will earn merits and recognition, it is a better idea than attacking WO Cheesy
Wall Observer has a life of its own
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2504
Spear the bees
In that same scenario around 1000 sMerit got sent to Mr. Punkass for posting memes rather than being distributed on the rest of the forum.
Dope. That means that whoever sent the merit decided that it was a proper use of their merit.

Are you going to now start commandeering the merit system to restrict certain people from getting it? How about, let's prevent all Legendary users and above from receiving merit since it's clearly not going to the other members who obviously deserve it.

theymos himself barely even fucking cares about merit abuse.
legendary
Activity: 2982
Merit: 7986
exactly so disabling merit would not hinder the preexisting WO community at all, i have an issue with the over inflation of merit on WO, and you also seem to have some problems with people coming and trying to fish for merit, disabling merit would solve both of our issues

I was not the one who stated that WO would die without merit, it was eddie who thinks such

Now you're being completely irrational. Eddie in no way said that and I don't think you'll convince anybody here that he did.

Regardless of the loose camaraderie that indeed exists in the WO thread, I find some of the most intriguing and intellectual conversation of the entire forum happening there and will readily disperse merits upon those who add something somewhat insightful to any discussion currently taking place there.

As gentlemand mentioned earlier, its obvious to us when someone forces their way onto the scene looking to cheese their way into some merits, and we don't appreciate it. And if we don't agree with your opinion, we're under no obligation to give you merits either. We're not obligated to do jack shit actually.

Wait a minute.

This whole thread is ridiculous.

First you want the WO thread - the most famous thread of the whole forum - deleted, THEN you say you want merits taken away from the thread, something that has never been done for any other thread since the merit system started, all the while feigning a nonchalant attitude of not caring about merits? You obviously care to an unhealthy agree. What you're asking:

1) isn't feasible
2) is selfish of you
3) won't happen
4) theymos would never implement it in a million years
5) won't change the dynamics of the WO in the slightest
6) did I mention its not going to happen? because its not

Well considering half of them came here to tell me to fuck off rather than actually make any points i still think im right to call most of WO toxic

And that is your right, just as it is their right to tell you to fuck off. If you think that thread is toxic I encourage you to spend more time in Politics & Society to get a better gauge of what forum toxicity actually looks like.

I feel like I've said this many times already, maybe about once every 6 months, but theymos isn't about to abandon his libertarian ideals regarding forum governance in order to prevent your delicate sensibilities from being offended.
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2504
Spear the bees
Scenario:
Some punk-ass loser posts memes all day in WO thread.
Punk-ass loser is trying to get merit in order to rank up so they can farm signature campaigns.
Punk-ass loser spends all his time on the WO thread since they maximize their merit.
Punk-ass loser has no useful posts outside of WO.
Punk-ass loser applies for signature campaign.
Punk-ass loser does not get in.
Usually, people can follow the flow of merit. If a user is accumulating merit and they produce shitty posts, the posts will be reported. If a user produces quality posts, then it is no longer a problem.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3008
Welt Am Draht
I was not the one who stated that WO would die without merit, it was eddie who thinks such

Well, I think he was more interested in making the right haiku rather than a point.

I personally couldn't give a shit if merit was gone from there and most of it is totally frivolous but there is also high quality content which would be deserving of plenty of merit regardless of where it's posted.

Like I said it's your inference that WO folks are somehow the embodiment of evil short cutting that hasn't gone down well.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3008
Welt Am Draht
tell that to your fellow WO member not me

I think what has irritated people is that you somehow think WO people are 'cheating' whereas they themselves don't regard it as a contest or struggle. The merit stuff is a fun and useful addition that they make liberal use of for their own amusement, not the be all and end all.

If it was gone the conversation would continue in the exact same way. The conversation would be the same if it had never existed, but there would be no asshole no marks making an occasional appearance fishing for merit.

Some lower ranked members constantly have one eye on upping their merit score and it makes them come over as stiff, and then there are those who spend their lives whining about why their score isn't higher. If you jettison that and just get on with enjoying and learning then it arrives naturally.
legendary
Activity: 2478
Merit: 2078
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If removing merits causes WO to die then am i not correct to assume its a merit farming factory?
It wouldn't make any difference at all.

tell that to your fellow WO member not me
We already know
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3008
Welt Am Draht
If removing merits causes WO to die then am i not correct to assume its a merit farming factory?

It wouldn't make any difference at all. Proper merit farmers wouldn't last more than a handful of posts before being told to bugger off. That thread has the most experienced members who've seen every behaviour under the sun on here and they instantly see through empty members. If you don't fit in with the spirit of the thread you're not going to last.
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3038
Disable merits?
Kill the Wall Observer thread?
Can't see it happen.




#haiku
legendary
Activity: 1819
Merit: 5547
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SwayStar123 shifting the goalposts from "Should we delete the thread" to "Should we disable merit in thread" speaks volumes to his true grievance. He's jealous of our fruitty little hat gang.

Just fuck off to Reddit or something. Who the fuck are you to dictate what happens in one of the most interesting threads on these forums ?

If it wasn't for the Wall Observer thread, I would have no interest in these forums otherwise. Even after nuking all my posts in a fit of rage, I'm glad I still hang out there, albeit not as much as I have before.

The fact that we throw merits at each other the way we do (many of us are Merit Sources) is none of your fucking business. It's a community unto itself, on Bitcointalk.

Maybe instead of complaining about the Wall Observer thread, you could have tried to add something to it other than your tears.

In closing...

legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 15144
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I have been summoned into this thread by @El duderino_ , whose post I fully agree with, but after 5 pages I still cannot understand what is the OP's point.
The fact that he had the majority of his merits from the WO thread, as per @tranthidung analysis, adds to my confusion.

I said many times whatever accusation on the WO could legitimately be made (meriting circles, back scratching, immorality, toxic-ism or whatever else) is vastly overwhelmed by the utility of that single pearl-like post I usually find from time to time. So I also legitimately ignore those criticism.

My interest for this thread stops here.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
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Its pity, cause imo this thread is nothing more as an attempt for merit fishing and attention seeking....

Just try to create something thats about BTC or helpful for this place.

If i wanted merit I wouldve just participated in WO and tried to farm merit that way

All I understood from these 5 pages is that instead of one Bitcoin Wall Observer topic, the OP will receive two. All heroes from that topic will move to this topic.
The only thing that the OP can please be constant attention only to him.
OP, just click “ ignore this topic” if you're worried. Benefits for the forum can be brought in other ways, do not worry about the merits.
It is not good to count moneymerit in other people's wallets.
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 12081
BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Actually most important is, you have said you're thing, maybe close this thread?? Seems like 99.7% of the forum disagree.... Number high enough?

legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 2012
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I do not think merit should be disbaled in that thread. May be a lot of users merit posts which are funny, meme or enjoy reading regardless of high quality. However, that's what also happened in the main board. I have seen a lot of cases where merits were put in memes in other boars/threads. So, it does not make sense to disable merit there. Also, quality of post can differ person to person.
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 12081
BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Its pity, cause imo this thread is nothing more as an attempt for merit fishing and attention seeking....

Just try to create something thats about BTC or helpful for this place.

If i wanted merit I wouldve just participated in WO and tried to farm merit that way

No that where you're wrong... if thats the only reason, you would be detected and receiving way less as you would think.

The WO isn't filled with idiots, keep that in mind, most of them are people with a lot of knowledge and very very good in detecting abusers of systems, as they are all contributors for a healthy and good working environment.

Don't just think I participate there and merit will follow.
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 3858
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
As tranthidung stated above, WO is where i have gotten most of my merit, i could have just continued to post whatever i posted before
You did not read again, did you?
  • People can complain about how merit is distributed in WO but please remember that even if you earn thousand of merit in WO but you simply earn it from shitposts and you are a shitposter, you will not get acceptances from managers of good campaigns. It makes sense to stop complaining about merit in WO.

I congratulate you in advance because you might become a Full member but you will have to wait ~ next 6 months to get the legendary activity count and maybe years to hit the Legendary rank.

I did some quick search and gave you 2 threads but I have a disclosure for you, if you dyor you will know that your thread is not the first one complains about WO. Let it is as it has been, please. Cheesy
legendary
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If i wanted merit I wouldve just participated in WO and tried to farm merit that way
I don't think you have the memes for it.
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