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hero member
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One thing I wondered about Shuffle is, why don't they support 2fa?
I mean sure, when you log in they send you some 2fa code to your email but if someone's shuffle password is compromised and the "hacker" also has the password for the email account this security is basically useless.

It's much safer to use real 2fa via google, authy or what not.

Is there any long term plan to implement real 2fa? This would really improve the security for players in my opinion.
hero member
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Reading on your previous post here makes me think that you didn’t understand carefully what the support said on his statement when he mention about the KYC. Your case is already concluded while providing KYC might give you a chnce re-open the case but that doesn’t mean it solved your care.

The user that you quote doesn’t comprehend well too the support message that probably encourages you to KYC and give false hope that you will recover your funds immediately. You should provide a thorough explanation why the 2 account is not connected. Maybe ask proof how you are connected then provide a valid argument.

I asked them and they just said the investigation is concluded and they can't give anything further.
So basically, all they have is that I tipped my friend $100 and they now believe the accounts are owned by the same person.
Even though we've both sent in KYC and we live in different countries, clown casino

If you use the casino perspective when looking on your case, it’s very hard to determine if you are telling the truth or not since you play games only which means there’s no physical proof that will help you to prove that you and the other account is different.

We all know that you can ask different person to the KYC on the other account which is why a case like this will not simply solved by KYC. Casino is probably holding an evidence related to your IP similarity, betting pattern, withdrawal/deposit and other factors that show similarities on your account.

Do they refund you the initial deposit? Sadly you can get more detailed explanation from the casino through Askgambler or Casino guru because they usually send evidence there once your issue escalated properly.
newbie
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Reading on your previous post here makes me think that you didn’t understand carefully what the support said on his statement when he mention about the KYC. Your case is already concluded while providing KYC might give you a chnce re-open the case but that doesn’t mean it solved your care.

The user that you quote doesn’t comprehend well too the support message that probably encourages you to KYC and give false hope that you will recover your funds immediately. You should provide a thorough explanation why the 2 account is not connected. Maybe ask proof how you are connected then provide a valid argument.

I asked them and they just said the investigation is concluded and they can't give anything further.
So basically, all they have is that I tipped my friend $100 and they now believe the accounts are owned by the same person.
Even though we've both sent in KYC and we live in different countries, clown casino
hero member
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If you take it from a perspective of the health of the token's market and its price, it's probably better to have a slow release of SHFL than a one time bulk sent to users. There's more than a good possibility that someone else has more tokens than you that they could dump and dilute the market with SHFL in a short period of time, crashing the price down, which could cause panic. Probably consider the slow release a favor, no?

I will consider this perspective if I’m a solid investor of SHFL tokens but I’m just holding a small size token that I get as reward on wagering. Those who have a huge chunk of airdrop still get a huge reward even on this slow release compare to shrimp holder that only get a penny per day for the airdrop.

Considering my holding size, I’m not in a position o consider the token health in general perspective because I’m not holding a huge amount of tokens. I will do what you are suggesting if I invest heavily on SHFL which is not.  Grin
sr. member
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The circulation of $SHFL is still 8% newly burned tokens are not yet 1% and the tokens that are locked are still 90%, meaning that there are still prospects for $SHFL in the future.
There are many things to create value of a token. Buy back and burn is not most important factor but it has effects. It creates FOMO and makes the crowd believe in dedication of the team on the token.

Bitcoin does not need buy back and burn but the team did one good thing by having this program. Other factors, you can trust in the good casino team and their efforts to build up bright future for this token.

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Currently only holding $SHFL tokens in the first airdrop while to make bets often deposit altcoins that are cheap in terms of deposits and withdrawals so I only use $SHFL in a HODL way, maybe with the second airdrop it will increase again depending on wagered.
It is good choice if you want to go long term with Shuffle team and the token. You receive it from airdrop so nothing to lose and if lucky enough, you might gain a fortune.
legendary
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SHFL is a new token, so it will take time for the community to become larger and more stable. It doesn't matter if you don't believe in SHFL, but the shuflle community is growing every day and more and more people are finding out about SHFL. The more tokens burned the better, this is the advantage that SHFL has. we have seen casino tokens end up in ashes, I think the shuffle team knows that and I'm sure they can manage their tokens so that they are accepted in the community in general and within the shuffle community

If you have any analysis on SHFL in the future, I'd love to hear it
Are you responding to me or the Wind_fury? Because i don't think that neither of us even hinted that we wouldn't believe in it.

What comes to analysis, i have pretty much said everything i need of that, and i don't worry about the future at all. Although i am wondering if anyone who is worried about the price or listing have fully understood the tokenomics. I rarely see tokenomics that make as much sense. So kudos to Shuffle
sr. member
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This is one of the reasons why, instead of playing at other casinos, I stick to playing at shuffle.com. I feel like I'm getting more rewarded in the future by playing at shuffle.com. I say this not just because I'm part of their signature campaign here in bitcointalk but because it's what I anticipate happening. Also, I'm buying more $SHFL tokens when I have extra money since they're below 50 cents. I'm eagerly awaiting Airdrop 2 and hoping to receive some details about it soon.
The circulation of $SHFL is still 8% newly burned tokens are not yet 1% and the tokens that are locked are still 90%, meaning that there are still prospects for $SHFL in the future.

Currently only holding $SHFL tokens in the first airdrop while to make bets often deposit altcoins that are cheap in terms of deposits and withdrawals so I only use $SHFL in a HODL way, maybe with the second airdrop it will increase again depending on wagered.

Now I'm betting more at several casinos to try new experiences on how withdrawals are instant or not, but if compared then withdrawals are better at Shuffle than other casinos, but this is personal experience.
sr. member
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https://shuffle.com?r=nba

SHFL is a new token, so it will take time for the community to become larger and more stable. It doesn't matter if you don't believe in SHFL, but the shuflle community is growing every day and more and more people are finding out about SHFL. The more tokens burned the better, this is the advantage that SHFL has. we have seen casino tokens end up in ashes, I think the shuffle team knows that and I'm sure they can manage their tokens so that they are accepted in the community in general and within the shuffle community

If you have any analysis on SHFL in the future, I'd love to hear it

This is one of the reasons why, instead of playing at other casinos, I stick to playing at shuffle.com. I feel like I'm getting more rewarded in the future by playing at shuffle.com. I say this not just because I'm part of their signature campaign here in bitcointalk but because it's what I anticipate happening. Also, I'm buying more $SHFL tokens when I have extra money since they're below 50 cents. I'm eagerly awaiting Airdrop 2 and hoping to receive some details about it soon.
hero member
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That's not entirely true. What the market needs is time to build real demand long enough to achieve sustainability. The team also needs time to build the casino, to make sure it's secure, and to offer the best casino experience possible. If the tokens were given in bulk for everyone to mere sell, then there is no time given to build both real real demand and real market sustainability.

Plus you said "price support". Are you suggesting that the team manipulate the price of SHFL? Ser, that would not be sustainable.

Setting up a price support is never considered as manipulation because the team is just providing liquidity to lessen the volatility of the token. Having a thick liquidity on exchange makes it lesser volatility whenever someone will sell their token. It’s actually a good move if they setup the buy back as price support instead of buying immediately on the market to show some strength on the orderbook.

Manipulation on trading is when the team announce a big news while they purchase earlier then dump their token when everyone is already buying. It’s controlling the price action in their favor while providing price support is just the way to strengthen the token valuation in the long run.
sr. member
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I believe not. That would actually have the potential to kill the market, and would probably make speculators disinterested in the token because they know that there are tokens that are not vested which could be sold by bulk anytime. But if it's distributed in small amounts per interval, it will allow demand to form faster and let the token reach its bottom faster and in a not so sudden situation. For those who want to sell, you can sell slow like it's DCA, but for selling. The buyers will be happy, and the sellers will not panic.
Can you explain how do you see that potentially killing the market. Shuffle is literally buying and burning them from the market, so lower the price is, more they are going to burn, and no matter how the big the wall in the bottom would be, eventually there's just nothing left to sell with those prices. I however understand the slow release, from the point that makes market seem more stable and with enough incredibly cheap tokens, there would be a danger to see more unhealthy pumps and volatility in general value.

SHFL is a new token, so it will take time for the community to become larger and more stable. It doesn't matter if you don't believe in SHFL, but the shuflle community is growing every day and more and more people are finding out about SHFL. The more tokens burned the better, this is the advantage that SHFL has. we have seen casino tokens end up in ashes, I think the shuffle team knows that and I'm sure they can manage their tokens so that they are accepted in the community in general and within the shuffle community

If you have any analysis on SHFL in the future, I'd love to hear it
legendary
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I believe not. That would actually have the potential to kill the market, and would probably make speculators disinterested in the token because they know that there are tokens that are not vested which could be sold by bulk anytime. But if it's distributed in small amounts per interval, it will allow demand to form faster and let the token reach its bottom faster and in a not so sudden situation. For those who want to sell, you can sell slow like it's DCA, but for selling. The buyers will be happy, and the sellers will not panic.
Can you explain how do you see that potentially killing the market. Shuffle is literally buying and burning them from the market, so lower the price is, more they are going to burn, and no matter how the big the wall in the bottom would be, eventually there's just nothing left to sell with those prices. I however understand the slow release, from the point that makes market seem more stable and with enough incredibly cheap tokens, there would be a danger to see more unhealthy pumps and volatility in general value.
legendary
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Anyway I also never received email about monthly bonus when I was still bronze, but I never received it since I became Silver as well.
I'm starting to ask myself "do we need to activate something to receive their promotional email?" because most email I received from Shuffle are all about deposit/withdrawal notification and login verification only.

Same here, I don’t received notification from Shuffle including the promotional email aside from withdrawal/deposit. But I regularly checking my VIP page which is why I’m always updated on rewards since I’m claiming regularly my SHFL airdrop.

Is it just me or true to everyone, I think the unlock of airdrop tokens is very slow now because I only claim very small amount of tokens for 2 days of waiting. It seems that the unlock period is very slow if you don’t place any bet for that day.
 

If you take it from a perspective of the health of the token's market and its price, it's probably better to have a slow release of SHFL than a one time bulk sent to users. There's more than a good possibility that someone else has more tokens than you that they could dump and dilute the market with SHFL in a short period of time, crashing the price down, which could cause panic. Probably consider the slow release a favor, no?


On other hand I also think the same way with @dimonstration since if we talk about health of the token then its better for it to have a one time dump since people might think that the dumping stage for those people who receive an airdrop is done and its time for them to accumulate then trust that recovery will happen since maybe investors might not worry about the future decline since there will be no threats of another round of dumping just like if they slow down the distribution process.

But let see if their decision is really works since provably there's a lot of people following them would be happy if they see the price SHFL will not change nor get a good movement despite of a lot of people dumps their token receive from airdrop.


I believe not. That would actually have the potential to kill the market, and would probably make speculators disinterested in the token because they know that there are tokens that are not vested which could be sold by bulk anytime. But if it's distributed in small amounts per interval, it will allow demand to form faster and let the token reach its bottom faster and in a not so sudden situation. For those who want to sell, you can sell slow like it's DCA, but for selling. The buyers will be happy, and the sellers will not panic.

Maybe the direction of the token price strength will always depends on the team support it since whatever structure they do like giving all of those tokens to those people who are eligible on airdrop or by batch basis. If there's no proper price support the price would dump whatever they plan to do with their tokens since for sure majority of people who receive some tokens came from airdrop will dump their tokens so I guess this will depends on how developments or other more they can offer so people get convince either to hold or accumulate. But we don't know yet what will happen next to this since to many possible scenarios will came in future and as long as Shuffle team is doing good then maybe we can make this a basis that their token will be at good situation despite of those threats of dumps came from airdrops receivers.


That's not entirely true. What the market needs is time to build real demand long enough to achieve sustainability. The team also needs time to build the casino, to make sure it's secure, and to offer the best casino experience possible. If the tokens were given in bulk for everyone to mere sell, then there is no time given to build both real real demand and real market sustainability.

Plus you said "price support". Are you suggesting that the team manipulate the price of SHFL? Ser, that would not be sustainable.
sr. member
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Anyway I also never received email about monthly bonus when I was still bronze, but I never received it since I became Silver as well.
I'm starting to ask myself "do we need to activate something to receive their promotional email?" because most email I received from Shuffle are all about deposit/withdrawal notification and login verification only.

Same here, I don’t received notification from Shuffle including the promotional email aside from withdrawal/deposit. But I regularly checking my VIP page which is why I’m always updated on rewards since I’m claiming regularly my SHFL airdrop.

Is it just me or true to everyone, I think the unlock of airdrop tokens is very slow now because I only claim very small amount of tokens for 2 days of waiting. It seems that the unlock period is very slow if you don’t place any bet for that day.
 

If you take it from a perspective of the health of the token's market and its price, it's probably better to have a slow release of SHFL than a one time bulk sent to users. There's more than a good possibility that someone else has more tokens than you that they could dump and dilute the market with SHFL in a short period of time, crashing the price down, which could cause panic. Probably consider the slow release a favor, no?


On other hand I also think the same way with @dimonstration since if we talk about health of the token then its better for it to have a one time dump since people might think that the dumping stage for those people who receive an airdrop is done and its time for them to accumulate then trust that recovery will happen since maybe investors might not worry about the future decline since there will be no threats of another round of dumping just like if they slow down the distribution process.

But let see if their decision is really works since provably there's a lot of people following them would be happy if they see the price SHFL will not change nor get a good movement despite of a lot of people dumps their token receive from airdrop.


I believe not. That would actually have the potential to kill the market, and would probably make speculators disinterested in the token because they know that there are tokens that are not vested which could be sold by bulk anytime. But if it's distributed in small amounts per interval, it will allow demand to form faster and let the token reach its bottom faster and in a not so sudden situation. For those who want to sell, you can sell slow like it's DCA, but for selling. The buyers will be happy, and the sellers will not panic.

Maybe the direction of the token price strength will always depends on the team support it since whatever structure they do like giving all of those tokens to those people who are eligible on airdrop or by batch basis. If there's no proper price support the price would dump whatever they plan to do with their tokens since for sure majority of people who receive some tokens came from airdrop will dump their tokens so I guess this will depends on how developments or other more they can offer so people get convince either to hold or accumulate. But we don't know yet what will happen next to this since to many possible scenarios will came in future and as long as Shuffle team is doing good then maybe we can make this a basis that their token will be at good situation despite of those threats of dumps came from airdrops receivers.
legendary
Activity: 2898
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Anyway I also never received email about monthly bonus when I was still bronze, but I never received it since I became Silver as well.
I'm starting to ask myself "do we need to activate something to receive their promotional email?" because most email I received from Shuffle are all about deposit/withdrawal notification and login verification only.

Same here, I don’t received notification from Shuffle including the promotional email aside from withdrawal/deposit. But I regularly checking my VIP page which is why I’m always updated on rewards since I’m claiming regularly my SHFL airdrop.

Is it just me or true to everyone, I think the unlock of airdrop tokens is very slow now because I only claim very small amount of tokens for 2 days of waiting. It seems that the unlock period is very slow if you don’t place any bet for that day.
 

If you take it from a perspective of the health of the token's market and its price, it's probably better to have a slow release of SHFL than a one time bulk sent to users. There's more than a good possibility that someone else has more tokens than you that they could dump and dilute the market with SHFL in a short period of time, crashing the price down, which could cause panic. Probably consider the slow release a favor, no?


On other hand I also think the same way with @dimonstration since if we talk about health of the token then its better for it to have a one time dump since people might think that the dumping stage for those people who receive an airdrop is done and its time for them to accumulate then trust that recovery will happen since maybe investors might not worry about the future decline since there will be no threats of another round of dumping just like if they slow down the distribution process.

But let see if their decision is really works since provably there's a lot of people following them would be happy if they see the price SHFL will not change nor get a good movement despite of a lot of people dumps their token receive from airdrop.


I believe not. That would actually have the potential to kill the market, and would probably make speculators disinterested in the token because they know that there are tokens that are not vested which could be sold by bulk anytime. But if it's distributed in small amounts per interval, it will allow demand to form faster and let the token reach its bottom faster and in a not so sudden situation. For those who want to sell, you can sell slow like it's DCA, but for selling. The buyers will be happy, and the sellers will not panic.
hero member
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Reading on your previous post here makes me think that you didn’t understand carefully what the support said on his statement when he mention about the KYC. Your case is already concluded while providing KYC might give you a chnce re-open the case but that doesn’t mean it solved your care.

The user that you quote doesn’t comprehend well too the support message that probably encourages you to KYC and give false hope that you will recover your funds immediately. You should provide a thorough explanation why the 2 account is not connected. Maybe ask proof how you are connected then provide a valid argument.
newbie
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I was not limited at the point of my tip, I carried on betting for a week after that point by looking at my transaction history.
I don't know how to prove the account is not mine but it's not mine, like they can do an investigation into everything and they will not find any connection.
I have asked my friend to KYC but again none of this is related to me.. if they don't want non-kyc accounts to be tipped, then change that.
From your point of view it isn't related to you, but from their's it is. So if that indeed is your real friend, i am sure kyc is fine with him / her. If not, your friend is costing you money and both of your accounts.

Consider making official scam accusation in scam accusations thread. But can you explain this?
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Sounds like that person you tipped haven't done any kyc? Maybe if he/she did it, they might believe you are 2 different persons.
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Providing KYC will not make a huge difference on his case. The support mention that they will further investigate once other user complete KYC and doesn’t mean everything will be solve. Anyone can use KYC of other person which the casino is already aware. They will still investigate on the intensity of the connection between the 2 account.

The user is limited on sports betting for a reason while the connected account received a tip from this user and continue the bet which makes me side to the casino on how they handle this issue.
KYC is literally the only thing they are asking for that friend to do next, so why wouldn't it be most important issue here? Only way it wouldn't make huge difference would be if odapoda was double accounting or Shuffle wants to scam him. Refusing to do kyc at this point would just underline suffle's point that he is double accounting and that they were right. So it's the only reasonable step to take

And of course they will investigate further, as it's their job to double check everything. Everyone knows that there are ways to fake identities or steal identities, but that can take time, especially when it's about specific country. So not complying instantly is just more suspicious.

And there of course are official legal ways to approach this if odapoda and a friend are legit.


https://prnt.sc/IcKXIFay5Bfx

My friend sent KYC
legendary
Activity: 2758
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Anyway I also never received email about monthly bonus when I was still bronze, but I never received it since I became Silver as well.
I'm starting to ask myself "do we need to activate something to receive their promotional email?" because most email I received from Shuffle are all about deposit/withdrawal notification and login verification only.

Same here, I don’t received notification from Shuffle including the promotional email aside from withdrawal/deposit. But I regularly checking my VIP page which is why I’m always updated on rewards since I’m claiming regularly my SHFL airdrop.

Is it just me or true to everyone, I think the unlock of airdrop tokens is very slow now because I only claim very small amount of tokens for 2 days of waiting. It seems that the unlock period is very slow if you don’t place any bet for that day.
 

If you take it from a perspective of the health of the token's market and its price, it's probably better to have a slow release of SHFL than a one time bulk sent to users. There's more than a good possibility that someone else has more tokens than you that they could dump and dilute the market with SHFL in a short period of time, crashing the price down, which could cause panic. Probably consider the slow release a favor, no?

On other hand I also think the same way with @dimonstration since if we talk about health of the token then its better for it to have a one time dump since people might think that the dumping stage for those people who receive an airdrop is done and its time for them to accumulate then trust that recovery will happen since maybe investors might not worry about the future decline since there will be no threats of another round of dumping just like if they slow down the distribution process.

But let see if their decision is really works since provably there's a lot of people following them would be happy if they see the price SHFL will not change nor get a good movement despite of a lot of people dumps their token receive from airdrop.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
Anyway I also never received email about monthly bonus when I was still bronze, but I never received it since I became Silver as well.
I'm starting to ask myself "do we need to activate something to receive their promotional email?" because most email I received from Shuffle are all about deposit/withdrawal notification and login verification only.

Same here, I don’t received notification from Shuffle including the promotional email aside from withdrawal/deposit. But I regularly checking my VIP page which is why I’m always updated on rewards since I’m claiming regularly my SHFL airdrop.

Is it just me or true to everyone, I think the unlock of airdrop tokens is very slow now because I only claim very small amount of tokens for 2 days of waiting. It seems that the unlock period is very slow if you don’t place any bet for that day.
 

If you take it from a perspective of the health of the token's market and its price, it's probably better to have a slow release of SHFL than a one time bulk sent to users. There's more than a good possibility that someone else has more tokens than you that they could dump and dilute the market with SHFL in a short period of time, crashing the price down, which could cause panic. Probably consider the slow release a favor, no?
sr. member
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https://shuffle.com?r=nba
This is a win I got about a month ago when I got the SHFL airdrop. Not a big win as I only got 130x the bet but as I bet around $1 so it was pretty good and I got freespins with just 10x the normal spin. I got this win on gold rush slot machine

Replay: https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/w95Gl2bU2R

That 64 free spin count is an insane amount while you only get x130 of your bet? This is always the trademark of pragmatic slot games, offering high free spin count but most of it is a dead spin.

However, I have a good experience on one their slot games that offers high spin count too which is the Buffalo version game. IIRC I won almost x500 for a 50+ free spin. But you 1$ bet is already high for a slot spin. How much spin do you lose first before you hit that huge amount?

I think it's pretty common and that doesn't just happen in Pragmatic Slots because I've experienced it even in Bgaming provider. For example, in slot games like Gemhalla and Tramp Day, I received 60 free spins but what I got from the base bet or bonus buy bet was only x3. There are indeed outcomes like that where regardless of the number of free spins you receive, the payout can be quite small. There are also times when you only have few spins and hit max win.
hero member
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This is a win I got about a month ago when I got the SHFL airdrop. Not a big win as I only got 130x the bet but as I bet around $1 so it was pretty good and I got freespins with just 10x the normal spin. I got this win on gold rush slot machine

Replay: https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/w95Gl2bU2R

That 64 free spin count is an insane amount while you only get x130 of your bet? This is always the trademark of pragmatic slot games, offering high free spin count but most of it is a dead spin.

However, I have a good experience on one their slot games that offers high spin count too which is the Buffalo version game. IIRC I won almost x500 for a 50+ free spin. But you 1$ bet is already high for a slot spin. How much spin do you lose first before you hit that huge amount?
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