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legendary
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I agree on what Noah statement about multiplier since those players that play earlier without expecting any airdrop should be rewarded more due to their loyalty. This is a good feature to avoid new whales farming more tokens just because they knew already that there’s an airdrop.

It’s like rewarding early investors that trust and support the casino without expecting any tokens when playing. I’m sure those newly onboard players that play hard on the last month before snapshot might be triggered with this decision but this is really fair for me because the tokens is completely free. I’m not an early airdrop receiver but I accept this decision as fair for their early loyalty.

I’m excited on what will be the initial price of the token once distributed.
I would be more interested on what my share is, but if i had to guess the token price, i would put initial launching price as very much undervalued:

If i am trying to calculate it based on rollbit marketcap which is $478M, and with my pseudo math, marketcap of rlb: $478M divided with shfl initial circulating token supply: 71,126,984.56 = $6.7

But considering the fact that similarweb stats show me, that rollbit had 5.829M visitors in last 3 months, while shuffle had 1.314M tells me that Shuffle still has way smaller community (-77.5%) and i recon some of these miners never attended to be part of community.

So that would definitely cut from comparison marketcap and the fact it's traded on prepertual markets for as low as $1.6 throws me off a little bit. But i would predict it's trading somewhere $2.5 at the start, even though many uncertain things could affect it, like issuance rate and new token fomo.

These are of course rookie numbers next to established big casinos, and traffic might grow radically with the marketcap later on. And if delfationary tokenomics are effective enough, token price would grow despite where marketcap is going.
hero member
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I just found this forum, and after reading the recent messages, I had to jump in.

Are you guys serious?
It's pretty obvious that you all initially wagered around 100k, lost it all, and haven't wagered since. Yet, you're hoping to grab a piece of the pie even though you haven't been contributing with much.

And let me ask, if early wager should count for more, how much more exactly? Double? Triple? Or should we just ignore everyone else and say, "Screw it, only people from the first month matter"?

Good luck with the airdrop and your 100k wager! Hope the 4k airdrop ends up changing your life.
-Him
Formula for that is not public information yet, so are those rhetoric questions? And even if we did have it would probably be hard to calculate if they have balanced it out some weird ways.

And since i am getting a hostile vibes from your post, i have to ask what you are even angry about? The fact we are uninformed about this? Seems like a waste of your time. Like noah said: "it's not that drastic".

I agree on what Noah statement about multiplier since those players that play earlier without expecting any airdrop should be rewarded more due to their loyalty. This is a good feature to avoid new whales farming more tokens just because they knew already that there’s an airdrop.

It’s like rewarding early investors that trust and support the casino without expecting any tokens when playing. I’m sure those newly onboard players that play hard on the last month before snapshot might be triggered with this decision but this is really fair for me because the tokens is completely free. I’m not an early airdrop receiver but I accept this decision as fair for their early loyalty.

I’m excited on what will be the initial price of the token once distributed.
legendary
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Well, I had a bad luck when I tried to participate in the $10k wheel challenge. It took almost 380 bets to give me the 49.50× multiplier 3 times. Which was completely unexpected.
I was lucky to hit the 49.50x in my first attempt lol (total surprise) but later I couldn't hit anymore although I haven't played a lot.
legendary
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The banner for the challenge is no longer available in the casino page, so I think it is finished already, have you done it?
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What a bad luck, sorry to hear that.
I was in negative as well when I tried to complete the challenge but not as much as yours.
I took a screenshot when I finished the challenge and here is my overall statistic when I completed the challenge:

Maybe I could lose less because I did not stop the autobet at the right time as I left it for a while and I stopped it when I noticed that I hit the target 3 times already.
legendary
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The banner for the challenge is no longer available in the casino page, so I think it is finished already, have you done it?
Well, I had a bad luck when I tried to participate in the $10k wheel challenge. It took almost 380 bets to give me the 49.50× multiplier 3 times. Which was completely unexpected.



I lost my first deposit with only 2 wins in 328 bets, then I started with higher base bet with a hope of early hit. But my balance was near to zero after having 50 losses with the second deposit, and I got the win for the 3rd time just after reducing my base bet.
legendary
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I just found this forum, and after reading the recent messages, I had to jump in.

Are you guys serious?
It's pretty obvious that you all initially wagered around 100k, lost it all, and haven't wagered since. Yet, you're hoping to grab a piece of the pie even though you haven't been contributing with much.

And let me ask, if early wager should count for more, how much more exactly? Double? Triple? Or should we just ignore everyone else and say, "Screw it, only people from the first month matter"?

Good luck with the airdrop and your 100k wager! Hope the 4k airdrop ends up changing your life.
-Him
Formula for that is not public information yet, so are those rhetoric questions? And even if we did have it would probably be hard to calculate if they have balanced it out some weird ways.

All we know is what noah answered to in this thread and its all still pretty vague. There are several questions answered on that thead, so it's pointless to pick just one, but if i had to i would go for this take:



And since i am getting a hostile vibes from your post, i have to ask what you are even angry about? The fact we are uninformed about this? Seems like a waste of your time. Like noah said: "it's not that drastic".
legendary
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It will end in less than 24 hours, so dont be late to hunt the 49.5x 3 times, I have done my part and hit the 49.5x 3 times with no more than 185bets.
I guess there will be many winners since the challenge is not hard to complete.
This is indeed an easy challenge. The house edge of the game is 1% only. So, we will get the challenge multiplier 3 times within 150 bets on average. I will give it a try tomorrow. The prizepool is very good there. The winners will receive at least $12.5 even if there are 1k eligible players.
The banner for the challenge is no longer available in the casino page, so I think it is finished already, have you done it?
What I hope is that there will be less players who participated in this challenge so the reward I may get will be bigger LOL.
I dont expect much ofc since the challenge is quite easy to complete so there might hundreds or even more than 1k eligible users.
I hope to see more activities by Suffle's rep in this forum to announce such a new challenge, promo or contest in this thread so it will get more exposure.
Lucky me I knew it although I did not visit shuffle every day, I noticed about the challenge as I got a notification in my X app.
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Are you guys serious?
It's pretty obvious that you all initially wagered around 100k, lost it all, and haven't wagered since. Yet, you're hoping to grab a piece of the pie even though you haven't been contributing with much.

And let me ask, if early wager should count for more, how much more exactly? Double? Triple? Or should we just ignore everyone else and say, "Screw it, only people from the first month matter"?

Good luck with the airdrop and your 100k wager! Hope the 4k airdrop ends up changing your life.
Agreed. They are acting like they will 100% receive their share when the casino never guaranteed that early adopters would benefit too. Am only expecting their most loyal players to benefit from this particular airdrop.

Wait what? You can use the “quote” button located on the top right of the post you want to reply so that your post will reply directly to that specific post. I browse the recent post and no one here discussing about the matter you are talking about.
You seem confused. He clearly replied to several people above through a single reply without quoting anyone in particular. Think!
hero member
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I just found this forum, and after reading the recent messages, I had to jump in.

Are you guys serious?
It's pretty obvious that you all initially wagered around 100k, lost it all, and haven't wagered since. Yet, you're hoping to grab a piece of the pie even though you haven't been contributing with much.

And let me ask, if early wager should count for more, how much more exactly? Double? Triple? Or should we just ignore everyone else and say, "Screw it, only people from the first month matter"?

Good luck with the airdrop and your 100k wager! Hope the 4k airdrop ends up changing your life.

-Him

Wait what? You can use the “quote” button located on the top right of the post you want to reply so that your post will reply directly to that specific post. I browse the recent post and no one here discussing about the matter you are talking about.

Airdrop should be count fairly and equally during the snapshot period. I agree that there should be no additional benefits for those who bet earlier before the airdrop announce since all the wager contributed on different time is just the same. If ever there will be some adjustments or considerations then maybe to the total losses on the casino. If shuffle can give extra token as cashback for those users that loss money then this will be an awesome surprise.
newbie
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I just found this forum, and after reading the recent messages, I had to jump in.

Are you guys serious?
It's pretty obvious that you all initially wagered around 100k, lost it all, and haven't wagered since. Yet, you're hoping to grab a piece of the pie even though you haven't been contributing with much.

And let me ask, if early wager should count for more, how much more exactly? Double? Triple? Or should we just ignore everyone else and say, "Screw it, only people from the first month matter"?

Good luck with the airdrop and your 100k wager! Hope the 4k airdrop ends up changing your life.

-Him
hero member
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I am skeptical if small gamblers are counted as early adopters, as when they are referring to it, they are talking about angel investors and strategic private investors
But noah said in twitter that people who gambled early, weight more the formula they are using to calclulate the airdrops. So, in short early gamblers are getting more for their money.

Although i wouldn't have my hopes up with a huge raise for people who didn't gamble a lot of money back then.
I think they will stick to their commitment and if they said about early adopters then all those members who played on their platform should be considered not only the angel investors or private investors. I'm sure each player who adopted them deserves to get some share of the airdrop.

I know that the ones who played with more cash might get more value from the airdrop but the ones who even played with minimum should also get some share from it. You should not lose hope because if they are truly generous then they will also give share of that airdrop to those users who gambled with less money.
Who are the angel adopt and what is their level of holding in the casino,  to be referred to as early adopters and being treated specially to the point of creating a special bonus for them,  we may be getting the team wrong if we assume that anyone that starts gambling at the early stage of the casino should be treated as early adopters,  even though yes they are part of the casino from the very beginning of the platform,  they may still be other core investors who may have sacsacrificedr the casino in terms of finances and hold a share and a bag to honour them and this is one of those time to do so.

So for sure, we may have to wait for the team to make a statement about the situation and who the angel investors are and what role they play in the casino to be treated in the most special way.
sr. member
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platform users are far from angel investors or private investors, which is a whole different thing all. Angel investors or private investors have contracts (at least when they are serious investors).
Well, I think all platform early adopters deserve to get some share from that airdrop. However, I agree with you that other users can't be compared to Angel investors or private investors as the later ones have spend huge money and they might have placed some good bets.

But the players who joined the site in early days also need to get some share from the airdrop that's what I said. I believe that they'll at least get something, even if they get very less amount from the airdrop, they'll still appreciate that.



For players who join at early days of their launching deserve to get an airdrop so that this people who support them when they are new will be happy their decision to participate and not get disappointed for not getting anything. For sure they will be happy for that then get loyalty for those people who receive some also this can give them exposure since there will be a lot of people talk about the airdrop happened.

Also for sure their eligibility in the airdrop can somehow overwhelm the gamblers and  can make them decide to stay since they are treated well by the casino then make them feel that they belong on plans they made also other with their activities made so they should think about adding them in the list.
hero member
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platform users are far from angel investors or private investors, which is a whole different thing all. Angel investors or private investors have contracts (at least when they are serious investors).
Well, I think all platform early adopters deserve to get some share from that airdrop. However, I agree with you that other users can't be compared to Angel investors or private investors as the later ones have spend huge money and they might have placed some good bets.

But the players who joined the site in early days also need to get some share from the airdrop that's what I said. I believe that they'll at least get something, even if they get very less amount from the airdrop, they'll still appreciate that.

legendary
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I am skeptical if small gamblers are counted as early adopters, as when they are referring to it, they are talking about angel investors and strategic private investors
But noah said in twitter that people who gambled early, weight more the formula they are using to calclulate the airdrops. So, in short early gamblers are getting more for their money.

Although i wouldn't have my hopes up with a huge raise for people who didn't gamble a lot of money back then.
I think they will stick to their commitment and if they said about early adopters then all those members who played on their platform should be considered not only the angel investors or private investors. I'm sure each player who adopted them deserves to get some share of the airdrop.

I know that the ones who played with more cash might get more value from the airdrop but the ones who even played with minimum should also get some share from it. You should not lose hope because if they are truly generous then they will also give share from that airdrop to those users who gambled with less money.
All i am saying is that money earmarked for airdrop (28%) isn't a same section of pie as early contributors (8.8%). So by giving more weight on the bets for early players from the airdrop section (as Noah said), they are keeping their commitment of rewarding early players. They don't have to give anything from early adopters pie, which they never said they would.

And platform users are far from angel investors or private investors, which is a whole different thing. Angel investors or private investors have contracts (at least when they are serious investors).
legendary
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It will end in less than 24 hours, so dont be late to hunt the 49.5x 3 times, I have done my part and hit the 49.5x 3 times with no more than 185bets.
I guess there will be many winners since the challenge is not hard to complete.
This is indeed an easy challenge. The house edge of the game is 1% only. So, we will get the challenge multiplier 3 times within 150 bets on average. I will give it a try tomorrow. The prizepool is very good there. The winners will receive at least $12.5 even if there are 1k eligible players.
legendary
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Shuffle has just added a new game in their original games list, it is a wheel game.
As a celebration, there is ongoing challenge/promotion with $10k prizepool which will be shared equally to all players who can complete the challenge.
The challenge is not that hard, just need luck to hit 49.5x three times (no need to be in a row) and with minimum bet $0.2
It will end in less than 24 hours, so dont be late to hunt the 49.5x 3 times, I have done my part and hit the 49.5x 3 times with no more than 185bets.
I guess there will be many winners since the challenge is not hard to complete.
legendary
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But, hopefully we can have a small party when the airdrop is distributed, if not let's watch other people's parties.  Grin

That's what we expect to celebrate a small party when we get an airdrop as early adopters, whatever we get will still be grateful no more than that because we realize as small gamblers who don't bet much on shuffle.com. Grin


Don't be like that. Because although it would be good for you to be recognized as an "early adopter" of the service, the casino actually doesn't owe you anything, in any amount. Plus the Shuffle team should be fair to their loyal users who have climbed the V.I.P. levels. Those are the real users who are the most deserving to receive most from the airdrop.

I believe this kind of incentivization and distribution by/of tokens is sort of a marketing and business development tool to attract more users to the casino, AND bootstrap a community through incentivization. It's actually very smart, and if the token holders - which are the loyal users - are given some roles in the governance process, it could be decentralizing.
legendary
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I've never chased a multiplier contest, has anyone ever won a multiplier contest? does this also apply to buy freespin feature or not? Will the bonus be sent immediately after winning the contest?
You can try with bonus buy, but do you think you can meet the target multiplier with bonus buy since multiplier is counted based on how much win divided by how much your bet is.
Lets say you do a bonus buy $20 (base bet for this buy is $0.2) and you won the max multiplier (lets say 5,000x from the base bet = $1000) means that your multiplier is $1000/$20= 50x If you do normal bets/spins and you win the same amount $1000, your multiplier is 5,000x
Now lets see at the target multiplier for the challenges, most of them are above 500x and there is no way for you to win it by bonus buy unless the max multiplier in the game is at least 100,000x ,why?
Simply because bonus buy usually cost you 100x from the base bet so if the max multiplier is 100,000x then you can get max 1,000x as the multiplier.

sr. member
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But, hopefully we can have a small party when the airdrop is distributed, if not let's watch other people's parties.  Grin
That's what we expect to celebrate a small party when we get an airdrop as early adopters, whatever we get will still be grateful no more than that because we realize as small gamblers who don't bet much on shuffle.com. Grin

Who knows, there might be a special bonus for shuffle signature campaign participants? Lol Cheesy




I've never chased a multiplier contest, has anyone ever won a multiplier contest? does this also apply to buy freespin feature or not? Will the bonus be sent immediately after winning the contest?

Currently I see about 20 slot machines that are having multiplier contests at shuffle. If one of these slot machines is your favorite, there's no harm in trying to enter the contest.
sr. member
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But, hopefully we can have a small party when the airdrop is distributed, if not let's watch other people's parties.  Grin
That's what we expect to celebrate a small party when we get an airdrop as early adopters, whatever we get will still be grateful no more than that because we realize as small gamblers who don't bet much on shuffle.com. Grin

I think they will stick to their commitment and if they said about early adopters then all those members who played on their platform should be considered not only the angel investors or private investors. I'm sure each player who adopted them deserves to get some share of the airdrop.
Yes if they say early adopters then all players will get with different allocations, unless there is an exception where they say for example, the snaphot has been taken then the criteria that enter the early adopter airdrop is a minimum wagered of $10K then obviously we have a picture if we don't touch the bet will not get the airdrop.

But what I know in the previous remarks, the more bet the bigger the chance so it will still make sense even if we only get a few tokens it doesn't matter.
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