Topic: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token - page 44. (Read 18503 times)

A quick Google search about arbitrage betting will land you into a couple of results stating that casinos hate it because of the fact that it removes the risk on the player and the casinos have everything to lose. Even a 1% gain from a single arbitrage bet will eventually stack up, and casinos don't like losing money. There are certain ways how the casinos are able to detect whether a bet is arbitrage or not, and the user here even admits that it is. Casinos are in the business of making money, so why would they allow such strategy to happen if they lose 100% of the time?

I think he is an expert in sports betting, I rarely bet on sports betting so I don't know what arbitrage betting is. I don't know why there are so many problems in sports betting, it seems like there is a deliberate cheating method so he was banned, to be honest I don't understand much about sports betting. I've been playing at shuffle for quite a while and haven't had any issues.

Are you new on sports betting? Because you should now that what you are doing is an arbitrage betting which is not allowed by the casino due to its nature of being a sure bet. Even if you are using different casino, They are using common bookmaker that makes your bet easy to detect for being a sure bet.

Logically speaking, there’s nothing wrong with this strategy as a player but you will definitely not like it as a casino player letting players drain your bankroll consistently without any risk. Casino is not a charity. Obviously they will not allow it since they are business after all. Arbitrage betting is well known here as not allowed strategy. In fact, there’s no casino allows it so you should not do that strategy if you don’t want to confiscate your profit out of it.

Seems like you really don’t have any idea that your strategy is not allowed. Try to browse the scam accusation board in the forum to see tons of user with same issue of yours on different sportsbook.

The most ridiculous thing is that currently my account is still active, and I can place bets. In practice, I can only lose, since if I win, the winnings will practically be considered void.

ndumm, care to weigh in?

llateman100: I wouldn't worry, i didn't imply you were doing betting for an airdrop, and that wouldn't even matter.  What i meant was, i am assuming that they might be doing mass banning several people using vpn, that were abusing vpn and creating accounts for it. And you might be collateral because of automation they need to use. So if that's the case, they are quite busy at that with the moment and you'll get your change to appeal when. The fact that aidrop announcement is late so much would support this theory.

ndumm: And about that airdrop announcement that meant for last week. I really would hope shuffle would be more transparent if there's a problem and least that they would tell if they can't keep the deadline. As that creates trust and gives a caring signal. This is like promising a date and not showing up or answering to texts. I get it, you got your reasons, but ghosting after the deadline is just weird.

sir i don't care about airdropp, or bonus...i just win betting. I have nordvpn extension on my browser, as 99% crypto people, no need to mask my ip, i am kyc2 verified, with id and proof of address that shows that my address is the same of my IP, expect for 1 time when i connect trought vpn in moldavia (and i do not place any bet in that case). I would be very happy if shuffle could answer here. So you are telling us that if an user access shuffle one time trought VPN, they have the right to void al his bets since the beginning? You think that this kind of rule could have a sense? But i repeat, i don't care about airdrop or bonus, i just want my winnings, nothing else, and i have not received 1 cent bonus. These are my bets, no surebets, no strange things just bets https://i.postimg.cc/VrvWJkmY/shufle1.jpg]
So VPN rule alone would be enough depending how strict they want to be with the ToS. But hopefully you'll get your money back. Maybe you'll get a change to appeal again, and maybe they'll accept the reason that it's by an accident. Or maybe you are not telling something, like the fact you accidentally used same ip on that vpn that you had been used for alt account. We don't know as we only have your side about it. But obviously "accidentally" is going to be everyone's go-to excuse. Imho leaving the VPN on, could happen to anyone, but it's now just a matter of their interpretation.

But after googling $shfl, i am pretty sure that you are not the only one getting this treatment. There are youtube influencers encouraging people to use VPN in shuffle, and twitter accounts admitting they are using vpn to get an airdrop. I am now actually hoping that these people get busted so that there will be less participants and bigger shares.
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sir i don't care about airdropp, or bonus...i just win betting. I have nordvpn extension on my browser, as 99% crypto people, no need to mask my ip, i am kyc2 verified, with id and proof of address that shows that my address is the same of my IP, expect for 1 time when i connect trought vpn in moldavia (and i do not place any bet in that case). I would be very happy if shuffle could answer here. So you are telling us that if an user access shuffle one time trought VPN, they have the right to void al his bets since the beginning? You think that this kind of rule could have a sense? But i repeat, i don't care about airdrop or bonus, i just want my winnings, nothing else, and i have not received 1 cent bonus. These are my bets, no surebets, no strange things just bets

https://i.postimg.cc/W36WfdyJ/shufle1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/gJPtDVgW/suffle2.jpg

Well it's directly prohibited, so you definitely broke the rules:
So VPN rule alone would be enough depending how strict they want to be with the ToS. But hopefully you'll get your money back. Maybe you'll get a change to appeal again, and maybe they'll accept the reason that it's by an accident. Or maybe you are not telling something, like the fact you accidentally used same ip on that vpn that you had been used for alt account. We don't know as we only have your side about it. But obviously "accidentally" is going to be everyone's go-to excuse. Imho leaving the VPN on, could happen to anyone, but it's now just a matter of their interpretation.

But after googling $shfl, i am pretty sure that you are not the only one getting this treatment. There are youtube influencers encouraging people to use VPN in shuffle, and twitter accounts admitting they are using vpn to get an airdrop. I am now actually hoping that these people get busted so that there will be less participants and bigger shares.

Hi sir

what you say has completely non sense. I did an aribitrage bet only on one bet (ncaa basket women), and i covered my bets on other website. Realy do not understand. I don't think it's your business if i cover exposure using third bookmakers, it's part of a common trading strategy, that most gamblers apply, expecially in live events like basket where odds moves quickly. You talk like somebody never place a bets in his life and i don't know how people with so lack experience could running a sportsbook business. About bonus, i never claim any bonus, just place many bets (normal bet, only one i covered elsewhere). About VPN, i forget to swicth off the VPN one time, and i appear to be in moldovia, but i did not place any bets in that case. So do not uderstand where is the problem. My other ip are all italian ip and i am from italy

even when you say "you are trying to hide your original IP to dodge being connected to other account which you are using to cover the sure bet"...you know what a sure bet is? Surebetting is making profit placing different bet on DIFFERENT bookies (how can a single bookie offering arbitraging odds itself!?!?!?!??!), and i send you also screnshoot of the third part website (goldbet.it) where i placed my bets to cover the ones un shuffle.

I understand you are a small bookie, and probabily you need to do trick like this to save same money, but here there is not realy sense on what on you are doing and sayng. I can lost my money, it's part of the game when you place bets on little bookie like shuffle, but have to tell people to be aware of a bookie like this. Will advice people on arbusers forum too, and in any other gambling site. If loggin trought VPN (once time) and cover bets placed on shuffle on 3rd bookies (what do you care), give you the right to void all the bets, shuffle is not a saefty place where placing bets. ps. most of crypto people have vpn addons default on their browser so the risk to connect trought VPN is high.

Since you admit being involved on sure bet that involves betting on other casino to cover your bet means you are doing arbitrage betting. This practice is against casino policy and your winnings will surely be seize but you have the right to claim your original deposit. I think the VPN part violation is probably you are trying to hide your original IP to dodge being connected to other account which you are using to cover the sure bet.

The main issue here is you being involved on arbitrage bets which we all know that is not acceptable in the casino based on their ToS. There’s nothing more to discuss here since you already admitted your violation enough to seize your profit. Aside from earning on sure bets, You can also claim casino bonuses such as rakeback and level up rewards just by betting without any risk involved.

Have you won in sports betting? Maybe you can explain in more detail with evidence to support your claim. Using a VPN in some casinos is prohibited especially if you are using the VPN to bypass a restricted country. You can open your accusation thread here: Scam Accusations. Hopefully ndumm can answer the problems that occur to you, but if you are proven to have violated the ToS then I cannot guarantee that what you hope will come true. good luck

Hi everyone,

never had a such strange experience with a bookie.

I recently encountered a frustrating situation with shuffle. I requested a withdrawal over 10 days ago after completing all required verifications. However, they've refused to pay out my winnings, citing breaches of their terms and conditions.

Their reasons for withholding my winnings seem unreasonable to me. They claim I breached terms by using a VPN once (probabily i connected from a device in which the VPN was switched on, never seen a crypto bookie banning vpn) and by engaging in sure bets on their platform (i admit have covered some of my bets placed on shuffle betting on other bookies). According to them, using a VPN and making sure bets are violations of their terms and conditions.

I believe their interpretation of the terms is unjust and I'm entitled to receive my winnings.

5.1k You participate in the Shuffle games strictly in your personal and non-professional capacity and for recreational and entertainment purposes only;

is this a bookie?

Yes the snapshot was taken on February 2nd, I wonder how many tokens we will get, but I realize it's below the minimum expected.
I guess they are preparing for it.

Haha it's true that we won't be satisfied if the amount is small, but it's true that we will see when they launch tokens in the market when there is good momentum, at least we can buy with other expectations later.

Or this token if there is already a value can be bet with other coins.

For those who like playing slot, above are some available challenges that will give you extra reward if you can hit the minimum multiplier.
Some are big multipliers to beat but with lower minimum bet and some others are smaller multipliers but with higher minimum bet.
Always choose which is the one suitable with your bankroll, dont force yourself to bet more than what you used to do just to beat the challenge unless you have decent bankroll and ready for the risk.
Bear in mind that these challenges are "first come first serve" challenge, so any player who hit it first will get the reward.

Really? snapshot has been taken, ah, I missed the information. I'm not active enough on Twitter so I don't know the latest news. If so there is no chance to get more, well, let's patiently wait and see how much we will get


ah, yeah.. Maybe because we are normal humans who always like greed, so any amount will feel insufficient and not enough, lol 

High enough for what? I don't think they have announced any minimum limit for airdrop, or if you think you would have wanted to gamble more for it, i am guessing no matter how much volume people have, everyone is wondering if it has been enough for decent share. I know i didn't do enough. But i am hoping for dump so i can sweep some cheap tokens.

And there did you get that 1st quarter? And why would we need to wait for it? All i have seen is that Noah tweet that long time ago that sad "$SHFL arriving in early 2024!"

I also have the same small wagered in Shuffle because it is risking money here is small so it does not have a large amount of bets and can only pursue rakeback.
Because the snaphot has been taken, when the bet is increased, it will not increase the number of SHFL tokens earned later but we will see how Shuffle changes so far on twitter they continue to promote with guesses of ongoing matches.

Unfortunately, I have never won a guessing contest on twitter. hahaha

Being minted/issued and distributed in Ethereum "could" help, but I believe that it truly depends on the service/project/idea behind the token itself. There are many MANY dead tokens in Ethereum that have surged, crashed, and that have been absolutely ignored. Why? Because there's no community behind them. A memecoin can survive longer than a break-through invention because of the community of users that continue to support the memecoin. Although stupid, Dogecoin is the proof.

We are off-topic. Haha. Back to Shuffle.

Its will be good if they launch their token when the market is on hype and people think about the bull run since maybe for this they can get additional demand coming from those people who wait for the token launch also those people who find something new to invest while they see that the market is having a good hype due to the bullish situation.

But if they are not ready yet then I guess they should not really force all of it just to launch their token since for sure those greedy people will blame them if everything fall or if they didn't satisfied because their expectation has not been meet. Right now for sure there's a lot of people waiting for their launching and let see if they can compete with other casino token which is currently doing good these days.

I think we are starting to get carried away with the shuffle strategy, we are increasingly curious about the launch of SHFL and of course that is good. In my opinion, there is no need for SHFL to rush, for me it is better to be late than to be in a hurry but with an immature concept.

However, because shuffle will launch SHFL in the first quarter, until today there has been no delay at all, we have to wait until March (1st quarter = January-March). I checked my shuffle account and it turns out my wager wasn't high enough. So sometimes I even hope there is a delay so I can increase the wagering on my shuffle account. lol 

You’re correct that the community gives a huge impact on meme coin success but being an ERC20 token helps them to be easily seen by whales since ERC20 is still the most popular blockchain for whales to invest. There’s a lot of tools that whales using in there to determine newly created token that has a potential which they usually gamble through providing liquidity in early stage.

ERC20 is really a good chain to start because it's easy to promote in there on the real whales but of course having a multiple chain is an advantage especially on blockchain like BSC that has cheaper fees.