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I think they will stick to their commitment and if they said about early adopters then all those members who played on their platform should be considered not only the angel investors or private investors. I'm sure each player who adopted them deserves to get some share of the airdrop.

I know that the ones who played with more cash might get more value from the airdrop but the ones who even played with minimum should also get some share from it. You should not lose hope because if they are truly generous then they will also give share from that airdrop to those users who gambled with less money.

Don't be discouraged, let's wait for the next update. Hopefully everyone who bet at shuffle gets their share even if it's just a little. However, because there are so many whale gamblers who gamble at shuffle, it is certain that the wager I have are just dust among the big rocks. 

But, hopefully we can have a small party when the airdrop is distributed, if not let's watch other people's parties. 

I am skeptical if small gamblers are counted as early adopters, as when they are referring to it, they are talking about angel investors and strategic private investors
But noah said in twitter that people who gambled early, weight more the formula they are using to calclulate the airdrops. So, in short early gamblers are getting more for their money.

Although i wouldn't have my hopes up with a huge raise for people who didn't gamble a lot of money back then.

Yes, that is the intention, but will having a small wagered get the first airdrop as an early adopter? I think we still have a chance for that but we don't expect too much because we realize the volume wagered is not large.

The news is that the first airdrop will start in March I get information from several articles, maybe this can be a little picture where soon they will announce again about this airdrop.

[1] https://www.theblock.co/post/277644/crypto-casino-shuffle-targets-token-airdrop-for-first-week-of-march

It's actually more than fair. It's +2.5x fair to be exact if we start counting for the odds to beat at 1000. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is there's 0.1% implied odds to break even if the odds to beat is 1000. But with the $2,500 offer, it makes 0.1% implied odds to win a $3,500 a steal. To simplify, you need to bet 1000 times of $1.00 bets to break even at 0.1% implied odds. The prize offer of $2,500 gives the user 2,500 more opportunties to chase the prize.

You are absolutely correct, I'm not good at sports betting but I was better few years ago especially for football 
I tried this challenge earlier when the odds to beat was 600+ by making around 15 bets but no luck to win.
I may try it again, as long as there are some matches that I know a bit then I can make some combination parlay bets.
This is something worth to try but I should have a limit on how much to lose ofc.

This is indeed great promotion not only because the rewards is high but rather the minimum bet is low for 900+ odds target that is first come first serve basis. I’m not a sport bettor but I can say that this a very fair competition to everyone including small bankroll gambler with 100$ balance.

I’m not how long this challenge will stay but I think Shuffle will be more consistent on this since they always provide challenges on their slot games frequently once the existing one already claimed with same level of prize rewards.

Well those people will not succeed especially if they create fake narrative since people are not so lame to believe on all stories they read online. That's why this people will easily get eliminated by being exposed on recent suspicious activities that have been done that's the reason why they are been compromised. Its really tiring to give sympathy to abusive people since if they are granted with any things they like for sure they do this again and disturb other more casino since this people would think that they can do it on other casino if they post the same if they had been caught then their money got confiscated.

Much better not to feed them with attention since they might like the people reaction base on the accusation they posted so the best thing to do is to ignore them.

Yep, this is a continuous process and the targeted odds will be replaced with the new big winning odds. The rules are mentioned in the promo


The targeted odds may reach around 10k if they keep the promo active for a long time. There are a lot of bettors who like to try their luck on a big parlay bet. The $2.5k extra reward should attract the bettors more. AFAIK, you are not good at sports betting. Do you have any plan to beat the highest odds there?

https://shuffle.com/sports/promotions/sports-odds-challenge

Just noticed the sports odd challenge is still there but the odds to beat is bigger now, it was 600+ now it is 900+ (close to 1000).
Does it mean that once a player beat the odds, then the odds made the player who beat the first odds is used for the next challenge?
I'm not sure how many winners are already won this challenge but maybe there were few winners that's why the current challenge is already above 980.
If what I think is true, means that it is like continuous challenge where once there is someone beat the early challenge then a new challenge is opened.

Most of the time. Bitcointalk is now being use as last resort to recover their profit from this kind of strategy through pressuring the casino to release the funds by providing a narrative that looks like they are just doing normal bet. Their bet will obviously look normal since they are providing screenshots of their bet on the casino they have problem but the problem is underlying with the connection to different casino that they use.

It’s just tiring to give sympathy to the victim base on initial data then later on turns out that the user is involved on sure bet strategy.

Some of them are in profit its because sometimes the casino catch those people doing it so late and they enjoy a lot of what they are doing.

Maybe the people complaining regarding and create stories or bothering the Ann thread of the casino are those people who didn't earn yet then their funds has been confiscated due to said illegal activities has been done.

Much really better for those people not to think about doing it since there are ways that these casino will find out about their shady practices. If they want to bet then they do it without taking advantage of the system since if they do the same or other illegal act for sure they would encounter a issue and there's a chance that there funds will be confiscated by the casino operators.

I read those stories too and perhaps in most cases, they got benefit from what they cheated even if they failed to force casino to pay them in the last time. Even without payment for their deposit in the time of account termination, they were still in profit.

Nevertheless, I think risk actually exists that if they get caught for a second time, maybe they will be in loss. It makes sense that casinos usually detect their suspicious arbitrage betting style only after some big withdrawals.

I partially agree with you here. It is true that the profit margin is very small and you can acquire any meaningful gains by betting big amounts most of the time, but there are some rare opportunities where you can make a killing if you spot them.

Also, getting banned for arbing is quite rare which is why it's a safe strategy though the risk of getting limited is way higher in comparison.

The biggest limitation might be the arber needs a large amount of capital because it's a strategy with very small profit per bet. I believe most of the profit are mere cents to the dollar. Plus another limitation is, you risk being limited by the casino, or probably also get banned because arbitrage strategies are not actual betting/gambling, it's an exploitation of the odds' inefficiencies between casinos. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's not as complicated as you guys think. Arbing is basically betting on both sides to acquire a guaranteed profit and this technique can be applied in many areas such as gambling, trading etc.

I have personally done it successfully in gambling only and it feels great to earn risk free money, but it's not some sort of perfect strategy and has its limitations.

For the moment specifics stay unclear and it would be hard to calculate our potential shares accurately anyway, as weight of the bet depends when you gambled it.



Also you can already trade in prepertual markets: https://app.aevo.xyz/perpetual/shfl ( at the time of writing trading in $1.33)

And since we know initial circulating supply, that is 71,126,984.56 SHFL, we can speculate with the real token price. With marketcap of rollbit token for example, price of 1 $shfl would be around $5.7. But it's anyone's guess as we would also have take into account the impact of token issuance / burning rate, which can vary.

Noah also mentioned that shfl tokens lost in wagering won't be turned into usdc or usdt and used as sell pressure. Even though my airdrop size is peanuts, and i don't have enough money to compete in airdrop race, i will be buying this from the markets and trust that the price will be rather cheap at the start.

I am skeptical that price growth would correlate with rest of the altcoin bull market, as it didn't with Unu Sed Leo, as they didn't even have inflationary tokenomics, and they were very slow to grow, but we'll see. And i don't think price would crash either, unless for some reason shuffle changes tokenomics radically. Because as long as site stays active. there will be buy pressure.

Arbers are not like gamblers/regular sports-bettors. They merely exploit inefficiencies in the odds of different sports-betting sites/casinos. If they find an inefficiency, they will put money on both sides of the bet and pocket the difference. As an example of an inefficiency, if Team A's odds is 2.05 and because of that inefficiency Team B is 2.10 in another casino. I believe there are other kinds of inefficiencies to be found, but that's a rough example to put arbitrage in context.

But those shit stories easily got debunked when a casino post a proof regarding on those illegal actions they made that's the reason none of those abuser succeed because they easily got busted out by casino representatives.

That's why for other planning to do arbitrage betting and take advantage on some situation better if they think a lot since there's a high chance that same with other people got caught they also experience the same and their accounts will get banned also worse they will not get their money especially if there's a rule on a casino that the can do this action if someone found out doing something illegal on their casino.

For sure there's a lot more attempt like this since somehow this actions is tempting for other gambler especially if they are desperate to gain some profit.

They are risk free as long as they can withdraw. In most cases, they get pass in the first few attempts, that's what I have seen in most cases here in bitcointalk. And once they get caught, they come up with shit stories and try forcing the casino to pay them.