Topic: Sick of Martingale? Give this a shot... It works. Chart and Instructions. - page 4. (Read 7555 times)

Hello.

This is my settings:

Base bet: 1
On loss: Increase bet by 100%
On win: return to base

I am still losing it all.
Am I doing it right?

There is not a single strategy be able to guarantee profits from dice or any other luck based games.

What if you catch a 10 times losing streak? This shit happens more than you think and with the %49,5 winning chance, it happens a lot.

Not a single strategy works when you are losing contantly.

Hello HeyYouGuys.

I've been reading this post about interesting strategy for dice sites. I understand your point and the base of your strategy. I have WinAutomation. But I don't know how to create a job to automate the betting process.
Can you send me your .waj file so I can analyze and watch the full automated system ? If the system works good I can send you 0.05 or 0.06 btc without problems.


Thank you in advance HeyYouGuys.

I'd go in at price point of 0.05 provided it works. The method is good. Nice work. But manual betting is something I don't have time for... so an auto-better would be great.

I havent decided if I will release the script. If I do, the only way I can (my coding ability) is to release an EXE file. Which I know makes people nervous. So if I did, I'd want to look into a trusted member of this site to review the code/compile with me, etc, so people can feel theres no malicious code within. If I release, I want to make some upgrades as well, a GUI, and perhaps add compatibility with other dice sites.

IF i do all that work, I'd likely charge a nominal fee, because it would be a bit of work; and what I made for me works for my needs.

If there is interest in this- as a product, for a small fee of say 0.05 or something; post and let me know. Depending on interest I can guage whether or not it's worth it. If a bunch of people want it, the price could be lower, but there is time involved to put out something that is easy to use and works correctly and has been beta tested across sites.

Not trying to gouge anyone, I just have what I need for my needs, but to relesae something, there would be work involved.

I write my bots and programs using a program called winautomation; which is $500. It only compiles to EXE, and it has its own language. Without it, you cant use the script... only if I give you a compiled EXE which I am not ready to do for stated reasons.

Well luck does come into play. I was successful at 2.2. But another member said he lost using 2.2 (not huge- again this strategy basically has "insurance" built in; it's how I came up with the sequencing. (Or I aimed to come up with a betting sequence that limited losses but gave opportunity for big wins. Etc.

I would play 2.0. Its designed for 2.0. 

The 2.2 was basically saying "statistically" it's not that diferent, but it is. Because it creates a river of loss in the center, where your rolls cannot touch.

Honestly, 1.98 might work better, because 1.98 fills in the river to where all rolls from 0.00 to 99.99 have a chance to win; depending on your hi/lo setting.

Of course though, the payouts will be less.

I understand , i completed auto with your idea . Hope we luck .
x2 and x2.2.Which is better?

Can u pm me with the script please i'm trying to do so but didn't succeed thank you.

You add your base bet (whatever it is) to your last bet each loss.

So if your base is 0.00001000

0.00001000
0.00002000
0.00003000
0.00004000

4 Rolls.

Say Roll 4 Won. (0.00004000)  You would now have 1 of 3 wins. You would currently be sitting at a profit level of:  -0.00002000   (lost first 3 won 4th)

Your 5th roll, being you won the 4th:  Would be 0.00008000    (You double your last bet on a win)

If you lose the next roll (5th) you go back to 0.00001000 start over.

THIS is why the strategy can perform so well with much less risk and much higher possibility of reward.  Because on your 5th roll if you lose:  Yes you lost 0.00008000 (but that was house money).  Your bank is down only -0.00010000 on 5 rolls, averaging 0.00002000 per roll.

A three streak is relatively easy to hit at 2.0x payout.

Regardless you play to 3 wins. If you lose BEFORE hitting your 3rd win:  Go back to 0.00001000 and climb back up one basebet per loss at a time.

Do the math, if you 20 streaked red and lost, even on the 3rd "possible win" so 20 red, 2 green, lose 3rd:  you've only lost a fraction of martingale play. With martingale you'd be done. With this, you can keep on playing.

LAST POINT:   You can also limit your series length to protect your bank:    So only play to 8. Only play to 7. You can play BEYOND 8 if 8 is a WIN, because you're playing with house money. But if you lose after 8 losses, go back to zero.

So chose a method that works best for you. I've found the sweet spot to be:   Only play to 7. 7 Losses then reset to 1. It limits your losses on long run red streaks. But the payouts can still be great on say a 5x loss 3x win. You can, also play for 4 wins. 4 wins in a row are not all that uncommon.... but you will see larger swings the longer the series you are aiming for.

If you think about it; how many times when you play auto-rolling do you see "Wow I just go 9 greens in a row".  Do the math on doubling every time using this method. Play a 9 series game. Go for 9. It's customizeabe. I'd only recommend DONT STRAY. After your first win, you are betting with house money. So stick with a strategy and play it like a bot.

But I'm bot rolling this, I don't sit there and watch it just runs. Its making BTC.

step two if lose return to base . i don't know is it return 100 or last wager after x2
I trying return to 100 if lose in step two , but balance is decrease .Please record video if you can , thank .

I scripted my own bot for this. I can record a video for you guys if you like. I havent considered releasing it as of yet. If I did, I would want to add in some features because right now it all has to be hard coded for any current "play style", in terms of bet size.

Problem is only thing I can deliver is an exe file... which I understand people view as malicious.

I dont write js I use a program that helps me program then compiles it into an exe, but theres no source code to provide other than the WAJ project file which isnt really useful unless you run WinAutoMation which is I believe about $500.

So perhaps someone could take the concept and script a bot that functions properly, but yes, the betting method is BY FAR safer than martingale, and I have had very nice winnings while playing.

are you using this strategy?

Yeah forgot to address that..After completing a series, it resets to base and if that base bet losses it bets base again and thats it. It only appears after completing a series though but other than that it follows the idea.

sorry bro but there is some problem in your script...
after 1 lose reset to basebet and dont count the last bet+10

I'll try to apply your strategy to Da Dice if something happens I will write 

I need the script for the Paroli betting style. Can anyone provide me the script ?

The odds of even a fair coin toss (50/50 chance) are far more complicated than just using the power function to predict the odds of rolling above or below the 50% line.

There's a number of theories out there on how to predict the actual odds of a given streak occurring within a series of coin-tosses.

But it isn't as simple as 50/50, then 25%, then 12.5, and so on.

This strategy is basically Paroli (google him you can read all about him); his betting methods were designed for Roulette. Betting strictly on red or black.... but did not include adding to your ante on loss.

So the OP took his strategy and built in a semi-limited Martingale on the losing rolls. As insurance- because looking at the chart posted, which seems correct, it would seem that provided you had the bankroll (which wouldnt be hard using this strategy to create a safe bankroll).... to play, and where you are strictly limited to your.... what he calls "basebet" per roll.... provided you keep playing and finally hit your 3 roll win (which isnt that hard).

So it's Paroli with a partial Martingale insurance back end which makes sure you don't blow you bank. Id think you can play for a long while without huge swings. Maybe---- get lucky:  Which would be to go into a losing streak 5, or 6 or 7 or even higher then immediately a 3 streak win (that would be a great win).

It's interesting. Certainly safer than Martingale.

fak the maths and everything you see or heard of ...  

it is simple , when you gamble with a lowest house edge even with 0 house edge :

you aim to double -- your chances are less than 50% .
you aim to quad -- your chances are less than 25%

and so on.

no need 1 million threads to discuss/analyse this  

of course we got sigs to farm or whatever

happy Easter to Orthodox Christians and all

EDIT. 07-May-2016
whatever system you may use , overall what i wrote is within reality
some quoted my post about a single dice roll - IT IS the same even if you play 4.513.146 times.
get yourself a 5 leaf clover may help a bit

How think this strategy will be work with head or tail game? http://rollincoin.com

Your strategy is only suitable for PrimeDice?