Topic: ☛ Signature Bounty & Merit System (Read 18800 times)
There are only few people that have earned merits, but much more bounty campaigns. You simply can´t choose only the best participants because they are very valued.
that's not gonna work. there's a lot of bounty hunters who has multiple accounts having merits. they just send each of their alts merits. and tadaa bonus for signature.
Few pages ago I supposed the probable solution of this problem:
The idea is interesting. This would encourage people to write quality posts and possibly further reduce the amount of spam in this forum. But on the other hand, capitalize merit quite difficult and it can result in a new wave of sales merit and will give the opportunity to influential accounts to capitalize on this. Merit as gratitude for useful information will almost never be applied.
To partly avoid the situation bounty reward could be paid not for the count of merit points but for how many different users merited the message.
For example
1 user merited the message - 1 stake
2 users merited the message - 3 stakes
3 users merited the message - 8 stakes
5 users merited the message - 25 stakes
So it's not matter how many merit points you get from a single users
Also merited posts could be checked manually by the manager.
I just saw a manager today, using a particular method, in the person of Arteezy. He stated that every participants, irrespective of rank, to have at least 5 earned merits. This is still different from the author's suggestion though.
Earning merits in the cause of bounty, might be a difficult task, but it is achievable if it is included.
Earning merits in the cause of bounty, might be a difficult task, but it is achievable if it is included.
Could you send me a link to that campaign? Thanks
I just saw a manager today, using a particular method, in the person of Arteezy. He stated that every participants, irrespective of rank, to have at least 5 earned merits. This is still different from the author's suggestion though.
Earning merits in the cause of bounty, might be a difficult task, but it is achievable if it is included.
Earning merits in the cause of bounty, might be a difficult task, but it is achievable if it is included.
More than a year ago Merit System was integrated to Bitcointalk forum to make forum messages more informative and quality (or should make it)
That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
that's not gonna work. there's a lot of bounty hunters who has multiple accounts having merits. they just send each of their alts merits. and tadaa bonus for signature.
I understand why merit system has been implemented, something just need to be done to reduce great number of new participants on this forum. Maybe there is no better way to do that but I think that this system is not that good. To became a senior member now is almost impossible, not to talk about heroes and legends. Even quality posts doesn't get merits often. There is also possible 'I will merit u, you merit me or my friend' system that people are surely using... But ok. It definitely works the job that they are created for. Many non quality posters and new arrivals are limited.
About noticing the signatures... I do notice all of those because I do like to see what is behind that signature. Don't need merited post so I could pay bigger attention on the project. People that are interested in crypto and its projects are going to see and those who are here for some other reason will pass it anyway,merited or not merited...
About noticing the signatures... I do notice all of those because I do like to see what is behind that signature. Don't need merited post so I could pay bigger attention on the project. People that are interested in crypto and its projects are going to see and those who are here for some other reason will pass it anyway,merited or not merited...
Of course merit system is far from ideal. However it could be used in following form. As we know in signature bounty the more reward receive users with higher rank. Newbies, Jr-s and Members often receive very small reward. Merit system could be used to balance it. If you Member or below you will recieve more bounty stakes for merited post
I understand why merit system has been implemented, something just need to be done to reduce great number of new participants on this forum. Maybe there is no better way to do that but I think that this system is not that good. To became a senior member now is almost impossible, not to talk about heroes and legends. Even quality posts doesn't get merits often. There is also possible 'I will merit u, you merit me or my friend' system that people are surely using... But ok. It definitely works the job that they are created for. Many non quality posters and new arrivals are limited.
About noticing the signatures... I do notice all of those because I do like to see what is behind that signature. Don't need merited post so I could pay bigger attention on the project. People that are interested in crypto and its projects are going to see and those who are here for some other reason will pass it anyway,merited or not merited...
About noticing the signatures... I do notice all of those because I do like to see what is behind that signature. Don't need merited post so I could pay bigger attention on the project. People that are interested in crypto and its projects are going to see and those who are here for some other reason will pass it anyway,merited or not merited...
As a bounty manager it's really hard for them to check all of the post. What I'm referring is that they don't have time to open each of the post and the thread on where it was posted because we all know that a qualified posts that should me meritted are the posts that are constructive and really participating to a conversation of a certain topic and the manager also need to consider the volume of the posts on where the person posted.
To summarize this:
Positive:
- A lot of participants will going to post constructive posts
- A big traffic on the project
Negative:
- Needed a lot of smerits (probably the manager should be a merit source)
- The manager will focus on its participants on giving merits and probably miss a lot of users that deserves a merits also
- A lot of work and efforts for the manager to check posts 1 by 1 including: Number of posts of the thread when the time he posted that, quality of its participation to a certain topic, etc.
To summarize this:
Positive:
- A lot of participants will going to post constructive posts
- A big traffic on the project
Negative:
- Needed a lot of smerits (probably the manager should be a merit source)
- The manager will focus on its participants on giving merits and probably miss a lot of users that deserves a merits also
- A lot of work and efforts for the manager to check posts 1 by 1 including: Number of posts of the thread when the time he posted that, quality of its participation to a certain topic, etc.
You are right. It's enough hard work for bounty managers. But campaign starters\developers should reward the managers correspondingly.
There are campaigns of moderations ANN topics so the analysis of merited posts also could be included in this scheme
As a bounty manager it's really hard for them to check all of the post. What I'm referring is that they don't have time to open each of the post and the thread on where it was posted because we all know that a qualified posts that should me meritted are the posts that are constructive and really participating to a conversation of a certain topic and the manager also need to consider the volume of the posts on where the person posted.
To summarize this:
Positive:
- A lot of participants will going to post constructive posts
- A big traffic on the project
Negative:
- Needed a lot of smerits (probably the manager should be a merit source)
- The manager will focus on its participants on giving merits and probably miss a lot of users that deserves a merits also
- A lot of work and efforts for the manager to check posts 1 by 1 including: Number of posts of the thread when the time he posted that, quality of its participation to a certain topic, etc.
To summarize this:
Positive:
- A lot of participants will going to post constructive posts
- A big traffic on the project
Negative:
- Needed a lot of smerits (probably the manager should be a merit source)
- The manager will focus on its participants on giving merits and probably miss a lot of users that deserves a merits also
- A lot of work and efforts for the manager to check posts 1 by 1 including: Number of posts of the thread when the time he posted that, quality of its participation to a certain topic, etc.
The managers could definitely use this to gauge a participant's ability to create helpful posts and award them extra stakes. This would in turn motivate bounty hunters to improve their post quality. They could also trace users with multi accounts and ban them if they thought of increasing their merit through their alts.
A good idea. If the projects introduced such an option, then the hunters would become even more eloquent. Promotion leads to improved performance.
I have seen a few bounties where they gain extra points for receiving a merit, but often the bounty managers won't go to each post and see if it's merited. They will look at your post listing and do a quick read and count to ensure it meets the requirements
maybe because there are so many participants that it's impossible to check every post.
but actually it cannot be used as an excuse because it has become the work and responsibility of the manager.
I'm not sure that's a good idea. Since there are so many channels in TG where people buy geldings. You probably recently noticed that the forum has a lot of colored trusts-this is another way for scammers to increase their reward. At the moment the bounty system is imperfect but to degrade it by such actions is not worth it.
More than a year ago Merit System was integrated to Bitcointalk forum to make forum messages more informative and quality (or should make it)
That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
Well thought idea but this is just an additional job to bounty managers. As far as i know bounty managers can handle campaigns as much as they want as long as they can get the job done and i guess monitoring the participant's posts count. In the end it should be everyone's responsibility to posts quality to help on this forum. That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
More than a year ago Merit System was integrated to Bitcointalk forum to make forum messages more informative and quality (or should make it)
That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
I don't think it would work. The altcoin section is a bit of a merit desert. There is hardly any merit handed out as far as I've seen, no matter how helpful or meaningful a post is, there's very little chance it will accrue merit.
In order to gain merit, I think you have to post in the BTC and advanced technical areas. Merit really is for those who have in-depth technical knowledge, rather than just enthusiasts like me. This is fair enough, I think. Personally I could be involved in crypto for say ten years, and I'll never have the insight and expertise of Hero and Legendary members, so it's fitting that I shouldn't ever attain that rank.
What if, all account will start at zero level or newbie rank or zero merit count. For that, we will see who can post a comment that is worthy of merit. So that we can see who have a sense of humor posting in different section, and it will be a challenge beyond their expertise. What do you think?
It's at least interesting. But scarcely can be realized. And it's not fair to elder BTT users that registered in the beginning when practically nobody believed in cryptocurrency.
Well, as far as I know there is some signature campaign (BTC/XRP/LTC payments) was adopt it to give bonus payment to participants who got merit on their post.
You are not the first who talk about it. But nobody shown an example. Could you tell a link to such campaign. I'm interested in how they organized the process
I have seen a few bounties where they gain extra points for receiving a merit, but often the bounty managers won't go to each post and see if it's merited. They will look at your post listing and do a quick read and count to ensure it meets the requirements
The idea is beautiful, going this way , will make bounty hunters search and read more, thereby making them loaded with information that will be very useful to the forum. It will motivate them to make more quality post because they know they will get an extra reward for it, though i don't think getting merit is that easy. Nice Idea.
More than a year ago Merit System was integrated to Bitcointalk forum to make forum messages more informative and quality (or should make it)
That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
This is a really good idea, with that rules I'm sure that everyone will be racing to create a good quality post instead of just making some trash comment or just simply spamming. That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
More than a year ago Merit System was integrated to Bitcointalk forum to make forum messages more informative and quality (or should make it)
That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
That is the question\idea: Why Bounty campaign starters/managers don't use that?
For example it would be an additional bonus for Signature Bounty participants if their message will be merited. It will confirm (in ideal) that the message will be detaily read and estimated and signature will be noticed for sure.
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Internet and forums I mean. Such systems never work the way they were planned to work. Every such idea meets the reality and fails inevitably because of human nature. Try gaining 10 merits by your own, without paying anybody and you will see how hard is that Everybody understands that there is no use of granting you merit if they know they can sell it. 
That is good idea if the manager would do that it could help the quality of their post are being meaningful in order to get merit, it is hard to get at this time i will grab if there is an opportunity of earning merits in signature campaign.
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