Topic: Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - page 17. (Read 50152 times)
I do sort of feel bad for the guy. Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.
Life in prison without parole. He'll never set foot outside of prison again for the rest of his life.
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did
Tougher sentencing has never lowered crime rates AFAIK.
Life in prison without parole. He'll never set foot outside of prison again for the rest of his life.
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did
Plenty of morons serving life thought they could outwit the system.
He was an object lesson in how not to do it - staying in the US, revealing his email address in the early days, keeping journals, running a centralised site.
It's impossible to be sure that you're uncatchable, but there's plenty there for others to learn from and do better.
Life in prison without parole. He'll never set foot outside of prison again for the rest of his life.
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did
damn no parole thats some shit
Now that he has been waking up everyday in the same cell he is going to spend the rest of his life and it is all starting to sink in, I wonder how he feels about everything. I'll bet it is now, for the very first time, that he is truly shitting bricks. Somehow denial protects you in the beginning. Not any more. Amir Taaki talking about the multiple personas DPR moniker:
http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/
http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/
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“Years ago, when I messaged the Silk Road, I had a conversation with the Dread Pirate Roberts – a very personal conversation where he was [talking] about how one day he hopes to be on the outside struggling for freedom together. You know, not having to hide his identity. One year [or] two years later when I messaged the guy — I’m pretty certain it was not the same guy. The tone was completely different. He had no recollection of the events that happened before, and his attitude to me was in stark contrast to the exuberant and wordy Dread Pirate Roberts of the early days. So, free Ross Ulbricht.”
I have no reason to believe this and at the end of the day it's just his opinion. Ross was caught red handed both in setting the site up and running it when he was caught do I don't really buy the different person excuse.
damn no parole thats some shit
There is an Eve Online corporation alliance called Free Worlds Alliance. It was founded by Dread PirateRoberts. https://zkillboard.com/character/1473889043/page/6/ shows a two month gap in his killboard at the time of the April 2013 spike. There is another gap in October 2013 with the second spike and Ross Ulbricht's arrest. His activity then declines and ends in Sept 2014. If nothing else, it suggests some link to Bitcoin if not the actual DPR.
It is clearly to set a strong example, They don't want 10 others to do the same. If they give 20 years some people will take their chance
Any time we want to get Ross freed, all we need is to convince Mom to require her property returned to her in court. The law she would use is 7th Amendment common law - which is not the common law of today, court cases - and the 9th Amendment rights law. These amendments are for people of all times, and were written before any statutes were made. So they apply above and beyond all statutes.
or Ross could try and do an El Chapo and escape from maximum security prison (it's the second time he's managed to do it) :
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/12/mexican-drug-lord-joaquin-el-chapo-guzman-escapes-prison
Ross might have a large stash of Bitcoins hidden somewhere but El Chapo is far richer than him, and has a powerful mafia backing him with the capability of breaking him out. Ross dealt with criminals in a virtual way and never knew who they were. I doubt any of them or their mafias would help him escape prison.
Any time we want to get Ross freed, all we need is to convince Mom to require her property returned to her in court. The law she would use is 7th Amendment common law - which is not the common law of today, court cases - and the 9th Amendment rights law. These amendments are for people of all times, and were written before any statutes were made. So they apply above and beyond all statutes.
or Ross could try and do an El Chapo and escape from maximum security prison (it's the second time he's managed to do it) :
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/12/mexican-drug-lord-joaquin-el-chapo-guzman-escapes-prison
Any time we want to get Ross freed, all we need is to convince Mom to require her property returned to her in court. The law she would use is 7th Amendment common law - which is not the common law of today, court cases - and the 9th Amendment rights law. These amendments are for people of all times, and were written before any statutes were made. So they apply above and beyond all statutes.
Amir Taaki talking about the multiple personas DPR moniker:
http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/
http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/
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“Years ago, when I messaged the Silk Road, I had a conversation with the Dread Pirate Roberts – a very personal conversation where he was [talking] about how one day he hopes to be on the outside struggling for freedom together. You know, not having to hide his identity. One year [or] two years later when I messaged the guy — I’m pretty certain it was not the same guy. The tone was completely different. He had no recollection of the events that happened before, and his attitude to me was in stark contrast to the exuberant and wordy Dread Pirate Roberts of the early days. So, free Ross Ulbricht.”
Its hardly an arcane reference, you know the California three strikes rule. Clearly this guy is a loon because his third crime was to steal a toy
From wiki:
From wiki:
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Curtis Wilkerson stole a pair of socks worth $2.50 in 1995. As he had had two prior convictions for robbery in 1981, aged 19, this theft was considered a third strike. He was convicted and received a life sentence
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Issac Ramirez stole a VCR worth $199 from a Sears in Los Angeles, and was arrested as he was walking out of the store. Having previously been convicted of two previous shoplifting related robberies, Ramirez was sentenced to a prison term of 25 years to life
So we're comparing apples and oranges: a recidivist offender sentencing provision, and the sentence of a first-time offender.
I don't like the California three strikes, but we don't do ourselves any favors over here when we compare Ulbricht's sentences to those.
Its hardly an arcane reference, you know the California three strikes rule. Clearly this guy is a loon because his third crime was to steal a toy
From wiki:
From wiki:
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Curtis Wilkerson stole a pair of socks worth $2.50 in 1995. As he had had two prior convictions for robbery in 1981, aged 19, this theft was considered a third strike. He was convicted and received a life sentence
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Issac Ramirez stole a VCR worth $199 from a Sears in Los Angeles, and was arrested as he was walking out of the store. Having previously been convicted of two previous shoplifting related robberies, Ramirez was sentenced to a prison term of 25 years to life
Theres a guy in prison for life for stealing a fluffy bunny toy, such a harsh crime put him behind bars till he dies so Im not surprised this guy will never be seen again
Is that so? Do you have a link to the guy who's in prison for life for stealing a bunny toy?
He forgot to mention it had $5 million in diamonds shoved up its ass.
Theres a guy in prison for life for stealing a fluffy bunny toy, such a harsh crime put him behind bars till he dies so Im not surprised this guy will never be seen again
Is that so? Do you have a link to the guy who's in prison for life for stealing a bunny toy?
Theres a guy in prison for life for stealing a fluffy bunny toy, such a harsh crime put him behind bars till he dies so Im not surprised this guy will never be seen again
Ross Ulbricht Sends His First Note From Prison
http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/09/convicted-silk-road-owner-ross-ulbricht-sends-his-first-note-from-prison/
http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/09/convicted-silk-road-owner-ross-ulbricht-sends-his-first-note-from-prison/
That said, there are places where leading the party means that you can take all the decisions without consulting anyone. North Korea for example.
And those places are called dictatorships. Presidents can always be blocked by congress. They're not powerless but they don't have unlimited power either which is usually a good thing (but most of the time the president and congress have the same agenda so they can team up to do whatever they want (but they don't seem to like Obama much).
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