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Topic: Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - page 3. (Read 50152 times)

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I am not much a fan of SilkRoad and all what they were into about, but a life sentence is a bit too much for this.
legendary
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Whatever, that article is a year old and is reporting about the holding jail he was in during his trial not the permanent facility he's in now. Ross is a cute guy. I hope if I end up in prison I'm lucky enough to have a tight little white ass like him sharing the cell block with me.  Wink

Why don't you just try researching the prison system and human rights websites? Instead you focus on one, probably inaccurate, report about the particular short term holding facility he was in a year ago. If he hasn't been raped in prison yet it's only because he really enjoys dominant gay sex and gives it away willingly.

Your own research is flawed at best and doesn't prove that everyone gets raped in prison.

The stuff you quote says "many" prisoners get raped. That doesn't prove Ross gets raped.
Also remember this is a prison in New York state. I would think it has better standard than notorious prisons like Angola or San Quentin.



Research for yourself.

It might get a little better for him after his trial in Maryland. After he's convicted of murder for hire he will get sent to a max security Penitentiary not a medium security prison. At least then he would have access to fewer other convicts that want to drop his tighty whities. He not in New York anymore they moved him out as soon as his trial was over. There's only two FCIs in New York, Otisville and Ray Brook and he's not at either one of them.
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Also remember this is a prison in New York state. I would think it has better standard than notorious prisons like Angola or San Quentin.

Because New York State is so much more civil than California...
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Whatever, that article is a year old and is reporting about the holding jail he was in during his trial not the permanent facility he's in now. Ross is a cute guy. I hope if I end up in prison I'm lucky enough to have a tight little white ass like him sharing the cell block with me.  Wink

Why don't you just try researching the prison system and human rights websites? Instead you focus on one, probably inaccurate, report about the particular short term holding facility he was in a year ago. If he hasn't been raped in prison yet it's only because he really enjoys dominant gay sex and gives it away willingly.

Your own research is flawed at best and doesn't prove that everyone gets raped in prison.

The stuff you quote says "many" prisoners get raped. That doesn't prove Ross gets raped.
Also remember this is a prison in New York state. I would think it has better standard than notorious prisons like Angola or San Quentin.

legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You have been watching too many prison movies.
Last I heard he was tutoring inmates. I don't think he would be doing that if he had PTSD.


You're wrong. Period.

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Reality differs from public perception. Most members of the public will never visit a prison or talk to anyone who has experienced life behind bars. Prison takes offenders away from their families, marriages, jobs, friends, communities and churches and puts them in an extremely bad moral environment for years at a time. Social organization in prison revolves around vicious prison gangs, motivated by racism, hate, satanic influences and violence. Life among these mostly uneducated felons, including opposing gang members, the insane and the diseased, is generally unpleasant. Many prisoners are beaten, raped, brutalized or live in fear. Deviant and forced sex increases because members of the opposite sex are unavailable. Guards can be unpleasant and brutal. Annoying noises and bad odors are everywhere; sunlight and fresh air are limited. In most prisons today, overcrowding makes everything worse. Bland and unappealing food, clothing and extremely confining shelter are the norm. Freedom is gone. Some 16% of prisoners are mentally ill, and high percentages suffer from communicable diseases, including HIV-AIDS, hepatitis C, staph infections and tuberculosis. Families and friends often stop communicating with incarcerated family members. Boredom and inactivity take their toll. Depression is common. Suicide is 5 to 15 times greater than in the U.S. generally.

Offenders take on sick institutional values, procedures and thoughts. Prisonization or institutionalization often makes prisoners worse. While people on the outside are making money, having fun and learning things, the social contacts and skills, sanity, vocational prospects and remaining wealth of convicts decline. When released, many are branded for life as "felons." Yes, their food, clothing, shelter and most healthcare needs are met, but most everything that makes life enjoyable disappears while they rot in prison. It's pure myth that prisoners have it easy.

Taken from hrw.org a human rights watchdog organization.


Some 16% of prisoners are mentally ill


16 percent? And you think all inmates have PTSD or are mentally ill?
Please explain your reasoning. Also this is just general info about the current state of american prisons.
It is in no way related to what Ross is experiencing inside prison right now.

This is straight from the source: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/ross-ulbricht-is-tutoring-inmates-keeping-a-pet-mouse-in-prison

And from what I gather he is fine. Not in perfect harmony, but as good as it gets if you are in prison.


Whatever, that article is a year old and is reporting about the holding jail he was in during his trial not the permanent facility he's in now. Ross is a cute guy. I hope if I end up in prison I'm lucky enough to have a tight little white ass like him sharing the cell block with me.  Wink

Why don't you just try researching the prison system and human rights websites? Instead you focus on one, probably inaccurate, report about the particular short term holding facility he was in a year ago. If he hasn't been raped in prison yet it's only because he really enjoys dominant gay sex and gives it away willingly.
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If I was in prison I would be kind to him, knowing he quite likely has some bitcoins stashed somewhere and could help those still in when he gets out, and because he's white from a middle class family there's a good chance he will get out.

It would be my goal to make him my best friend.
legendary
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Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You have been watching too many prison movies.
Last I heard he was tutoring inmates. I don't think he would be doing that if he had PTSD.


Last I heard, "tutoring inmates" in Federal prison is equivalent to a desperate scream to use some lube.
Former idealist Ross Ulbricht is paying a very high price for his Silk Road adventure.


That or precisely what it means, tutoring people. And sure, he paid a high price, but one he mentioned knowing was on the cards.
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Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You have been watching too many prison movies.
Last I heard he was tutoring inmates. I don't think he would be doing that if he had PTSD.


Last I heard, "tutoring inmates" in Federal prison is equivalent to a desperate scream to use some lube.
Former idealist Ross Ulbricht is paying a very high price for his Silk Road adventure.


Read the article. He is fine.
legendary
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Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You have been watching too many prison movies.
Last I heard he was tutoring inmates. I don't think he would be doing that if he had PTSD.


Last I heard, "tutoring inmates" in Federal prison is equivalent to a desperate scream to use some lube.
Former idealist Ross Ulbricht is paying a very high price for his Silk Road adventure.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You have been watching too many prison movies.
Last I heard he was tutoring inmates. I don't think he would be doing that if he had PTSD.


You're wrong. Period.

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Reality differs from public perception. Most members of the public will never visit a prison or talk to anyone who has experienced life behind bars. Prison takes offenders away from their families, marriages, jobs, friends, communities and churches and puts them in an extremely bad moral environment for years at a time. Social organization in prison revolves around vicious prison gangs, motivated by racism, hate, satanic influences and violence. Life among these mostly uneducated felons, including opposing gang members, the insane and the diseased, is generally unpleasant. Many prisoners are beaten, raped, brutalized or live in fear. Deviant and forced sex increases because members of the opposite sex are unavailable. Guards can be unpleasant and brutal. Annoying noises and bad odors are everywhere; sunlight and fresh air are limited. In most prisons today, overcrowding makes everything worse. Bland and unappealing food, clothing and extremely confining shelter are the norm. Freedom is gone. Some 16% of prisoners are mentally ill, and high percentages suffer from communicable diseases, including HIV-AIDS, hepatitis C, staph infections and tuberculosis. Families and friends often stop communicating with incarcerated family members. Boredom and inactivity take their toll. Depression is common. Suicide is 5 to 15 times greater than in the U.S. generally.

Offenders take on sick institutional values, procedures and thoughts. Prisonization or institutionalization often makes prisoners worse. While people on the outside are making money, having fun and learning things, the social contacts and skills, sanity, vocational prospects and remaining wealth of convicts decline. When released, many are branded for life as "felons." Yes, their food, clothing, shelter and most healthcare needs are met, but most everything that makes life enjoyable disappears while they rot in prison. It's pure myth that prisoners have it easy.

Taken from hrw.org a human rights watchdog organization.


Some 16% of prisoners are mentally ill


16 percent? And you think all inmates have PTSD or are mentally ill?
Please explain your reasoning. Also this is just general info about the current state of american prisons.
It is in no way related to what Ross is experiencing inside prison right now.

This is straight from the source: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/ross-ulbricht-is-tutoring-inmates-keeping-a-pet-mouse-in-prison

And from what I gather he is fine. Not in perfect harmony, but as good as it gets if you are in prison.




Indeed, he is handling things well. He's a smart dude after all.
legendary
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Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You might think differently if you were him.

If anyone really had any sympathy for him they would call for the death penalty. That's far more humane than a life of mental and physical torture with the only positive outcome being the increase of profit for the Corrections Corporation of America.

This is quite a radical path you have set out here. You are assuming everyone is incapable of handling a life sentence which is patently untrue since many, many people have and continue to do so. Further, since he has an appeal he may be released and so earn freedom again. He may be different, but freedom is freedom. Better to be fucked up outside than in.
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Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You have been watching too many prison movies.
Last I heard he was tutoring inmates. I don't think he would be doing that if he had PTSD.


You're wrong. Period.

Quote
Reality differs from public perception. Most members of the public will never visit a prison or talk to anyone who has experienced life behind bars. Prison takes offenders away from their families, marriages, jobs, friends, communities and churches and puts them in an extremely bad moral environment for years at a time. Social organization in prison revolves around vicious prison gangs, motivated by racism, hate, satanic influences and violence. Life among these mostly uneducated felons, including opposing gang members, the insane and the diseased, is generally unpleasant. Many prisoners are beaten, raped, brutalized or live in fear. Deviant and forced sex increases because members of the opposite sex are unavailable. Guards can be unpleasant and brutal. Annoying noises and bad odors are everywhere; sunlight and fresh air are limited. In most prisons today, overcrowding makes everything worse. Bland and unappealing food, clothing and extremely confining shelter are the norm. Freedom is gone. Some 16% of prisoners are mentally ill, and high percentages suffer from communicable diseases, including HIV-AIDS, hepatitis C, staph infections and tuberculosis. Families and friends often stop communicating with incarcerated family members. Boredom and inactivity take their toll. Depression is common. Suicide is 5 to 15 times greater than in the U.S. generally.

Offenders take on sick institutional values, procedures and thoughts. Prisonization or institutionalization often makes prisoners worse. While people on the outside are making money, having fun and learning things, the social contacts and skills, sanity, vocational prospects and remaining wealth of convicts decline. When released, many are branded for life as "felons." Yes, their food, clothing, shelter and most healthcare needs are met, but most everything that makes life enjoyable disappears while they rot in prison. It's pure myth that prisoners have it easy.

Taken from hrw.org a human rights watchdog organization.


Some 16% of prisoners are mentally ill


16 percent? And you think all inmates have PTSD or are mentally ill?
Please explain your reasoning. Also this is just general info about the current state of american prisons.
It is in no way related to what Ross is experiencing inside prison right now.

This is straight from the source: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/ross-ulbricht-is-tutoring-inmates-keeping-a-pet-mouse-in-prison

And from what I gather he is fine. Not in perfect harmony, but as good as it gets if you are in prison.


legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You might think differently if you were him.

If anyone really had any sympathy for him they would call for the death penalty. That's far more humane than a life of mental and physical torture with the only positive outcome being the increase of profit for the Corrections Corporation of America.

I guess you haven't spent much time in occupied north america.  Around here if you have a hundred friends, on average 2 or 3 of them are currently locked up as political prisoners.  More like ten of those friends have at one point been so locked up.  Being an incarcerated political prisoner, while not desirable, is not likely worthy of suicide nor your violent mercy.  Some people even come out having learned a thing or two. 

That's my point. He's not going to "come out having learned a thing or two". He's not going to come out at all.

That's really sad to think about. Two or three of your friends are occasionally fucked in the ass against their will and locked in a cage like an animal to quietly go insane from the boredom. Even being trapped on a deserted island alone for the rest of your life would be better than that. You might still go insane but your butthole would be intact.
legendary
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Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You might think differently if you were him.

If anyone really had any sympathy for him they would call for the death penalty. That's far more humane than a life of mental and physical torture with the only positive outcome being the increase of profit for the Corrections Corporation of America.

I guess you haven't spent much time in occupied north america.  Around here if you have a hundred friends, on average 2 or 3 of them are currently locked up as political prisoners.  More like ten of those friends have at one point been so locked up.  Being an incarcerated political prisoner, while not desirable, is not likely worthy of suicide nor your violent mercy.  Some people even come out having learned a thing or two. 
legendary
Activity: 2156
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You might think differently if you were him.

If anyone really had any sympathy for him they would call for the death penalty. That's far more humane than a life of mental and physical torture with the only positive outcome being the increase of profit for the Corrections Corporation of America.
legendary
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Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You might think differently if you were him.
legendary
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I have been hearing rumors that his life sentence would be lessened to 50 years.
I do not know if this is true.
Anyways I am also wondering what are the donation money being used for since no change has been done to the verdict after several attempts of appealing.

The money is being used for his appeal. I'm not sure what you mean by several attempts at appeal unless you are confusing the appeal documents as each being different instances of the one?
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You have been watching too many prison movies.
Last I heard he was tutoring inmates. I don't think he would be doing that if he had PTSD.


You're wrong. Period.

Quote
Reality differs from public perception. Most members of the public will never visit a prison or talk to anyone who has experienced life behind bars. Prison takes offenders away from their families, marriages, jobs, friends, communities and churches and puts them in an extremely bad moral environment for years at a time. Social organization in prison revolves around vicious prison gangs, motivated by racism, hate, satanic influences and violence. Life among these mostly uneducated felons, including opposing gang members, the insane and the diseased, is generally unpleasant. Many prisoners are beaten, raped, brutalized or live in fear. Deviant and forced sex increases because members of the opposite sex are unavailable. Guards can be unpleasant and brutal. Annoying noises and bad odors are everywhere; sunlight and fresh air are limited. In most prisons today, overcrowding makes everything worse. Bland and unappealing food, clothing and extremely confining shelter are the norm. Freedom is gone. Some 16% of prisoners are mentally ill, and high percentages suffer from communicable diseases, including HIV-AIDS, hepatitis C, staph infections and tuberculosis. Families and friends often stop communicating with incarcerated family members. Boredom and inactivity take their toll. Depression is common. Suicide is 5 to 15 times greater than in the U.S. generally.

Offenders take on sick institutional values, procedures and thoughts. Prisonization or institutionalization often makes prisoners worse. While people on the outside are making money, having fun and learning things, the social contacts and skills, sanity, vocational prospects and remaining wealth of convicts decline. When released, many are branded for life as "felons." Yes, their food, clothing, shelter and most healthcare needs are met, but most everything that makes life enjoyable disappears while they rot in prison. It's pure myth that prisoners have it easy.

Taken from hrw.org a human rights watchdog organization.

legendary
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Sadly this is the reality. If you find anything which is against the interest of the regulator, you will be doomed.

It is not just USA, even in INDIA, if yu say anything against the ruling party, they will mark you as an anti nationalist. This is how fascism is running through the vains of the world leaders. Shame!
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Why is anyone still even thinking about freeing him. He's gone, it's over. Even if he was released he's a wasted shell of his former self by now. It's hard to live a normal life with PTSD. American prisons are not luxury retreats. His mind is fucked at this point.

You have been watching too many prison movies.
Last I heard he was tutoring inmates. I don't think he would be doing that if he had PTSD.
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