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legendary
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? ? ?

I'm probably not able to see the whole image and on bb.co it doesn't load from here, but seem like there is written "not enough space", right?

yes
Do you have enough space on your disk?

i am asking on forum first, then i checking free space on hdd
just joke

7Gb is enough ?
sr. member
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Slimcoin - the Proof of Donation inventors!


? ? ?

I'm probably not able to see the whole image and on bb.co it doesn't load from here, but seem like there is written "not enough space", right?

yes
Do you have enough space on your disk?
legendary
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Merit: 1035


? ? ?

I'm probably not able to see the whole image and on bb.co it doesn't load from here, but seem like there is written "not enough space", right?

yes
sr. member
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Slimcoin - the Proof of Donation inventors!


? ? ?

I'm probably not able to see the whole image and on bb.co it doesn't load from here, but seem like there is written "not enough space", right?
legendary
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jr. member
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Move one directory up, there you find README and some other chains.

Code:
ftp://185.150.190.19/

I tried to use the windows chain with linux, but because of some database? incompatibilities it fails. This, the chains are for linux users primarily.

This is the most current slim chain:

Code:
ftp://185.150.190.19/chain-slm.slimcoin_v0.6.0_height-1212298.tgz
sr. member
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sr. member
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A script can be a workaround only. There must be a reason for such different hights, better to go deep into this. I wonder how exchange wirthdraws and deposits can be stable. Is it sure, that the freiexchange wallet is on the right chain?

I not yet had larger time lags on startup.
I don't think the blockchain is splitting it's just a wallet issue - the wallet goes to "sleep" at some point, that's why restarting it makes it work again as it should.

This issue needs to be inspected into depth, I agree with you, but we don't have the core developer here, only contributors (formally) that are doing things when they feel stimulated somehow.

I'm looking for a dev and I'm ready to pay for his work, but for the moment apparently we've got no success with it.

it's time to share it
The code is very simple, I've created it for slimcoind, but I think it can be adopted for slimcoin-qt as well. Tell me if you need it adopted for slimcoin-qt.
Code:
#!/bin/bash

a=$(/root/Slimcoin/src/./slimcoind getinfo | grep blocks)
b=$(cat /home/stop_check)

if [[ "$a" == "$b" ]]
then
/root/Slimcoin/src/./slimcoind stop
fi
echo "$a" > /home/stop_check

The name of this script is slm-stop in my context and I have it in my home folder, so I've added the following line to crontab in order to activate it each hour:
Code:
5 * * * * /home/slm-stop

The above script closes slimcoind if it's stuck, the following one relaunches it, if it's down:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
PROCESSCOUNT=$(ps -ef |grep -v grep |grep -cw slimcoind)
if [ $PROCESSCOUNT -eq 0 ]; then
/root/Slimcoin/src/./slimcoind
fi

In my context its name is slm-check and I have it in my home folder.

To make it work I have the following line in crontab:
Code:
* * * * * /home/slm-check
It checks each minute whether slimcoind is up and relaunches it if it's not.


Indeed, restart helps, the blockchain download continues. I can serve a blockchain upload with an anonymous FTP server from my host now, in the format of a tar gzip.
Code:
ftp://185.150.190.19/chain-slm.slimcoin_v0.6.0_height-864618.tgz
The README file contains the md5sum for each file.
Thank you very much!

I'm not able to see the README file inside the compressed file you've mentioned. Am I missing something?
jr. member
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A script can be a workaround only. There must be a reason for such different heights, better to go deep into this. I wonder how exchange wirthdraws and deposits can be stable. Is it sure, that the freiexchange wallet is on the right chain?

I not yet had larger time lags on startup.

Indeed, restart helps, the blockchain download continues. I can serve a blockchain upload with an anonymous FTP server from my host now, in the format of a tar gzip.
Code:
ftp://185.150.190.19/chain-slm.slimcoin_v0.6.0_height-864618.tgz
The README file contains the md5sum for each file. The ftp URL becomes destructed by this forum software, so I show it as code. Copy and paste it into your internet browser simply.
legendary
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I'm hosting slimcoin 0.6.0 on ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS now. Syncing was fast at the beginning, but now is stalling. This is the result of getpeerinfo. Very confusing, if I compare "hight" and "subver", for example. It's 21 active connections. Often there is hight 2277690, but some newer versions are ahead of this. chainz.cryptoid.info is on hight 2278847. None of my peers has the hight of cryptoid.

In my experience when you sync, the synchronization got stuck at some point and before it becomes more and more slow.

To avoid the issue I have a script that shuts down the wallet each hour and reopens it.

When the blockchain is synchronized there is no need to restart the wallet each hour, so my script just checks each hour whether the blockchain height has changed if it's the same then I restart the wallet.

You need to have enough RAM to do the above things, because with insufficient RAM it's possible your wallet won't even open in one hour (if you opt for restarting it each hour).
 

it's time to share it
sr. member
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Slimcoin - the Proof of Donation inventors!
I'm hosting slimcoin 0.6.0 on ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS now. Syncing was fast at the beginning, but now is stalling. This is the result of getpeerinfo. Very confusing, if I compare "hight" and "subver", for example. It's 21 active connections. Often there is hight 2277690, but some newer versions are ahead of this. chainz.cryptoid.info is on hight 2278847. None of my peers has the hight of cryptoid.

In my experience when you sync, the synchronization got stuck at some point and before it becomes more and more slow.

To avoid the issue I have a script that shuts down the wallet each hour and reopens it.

When the blockchain is synchronized there is no need to restart the wallet each hour, so my script just checks each hour whether the blockchain height has changed if it's the same then I restart the wallet.

You need to have enough RAM to do the above things, because with insufficient RAM it's possible your wallet won't even open in one hour (if you opt for restarting it each hour).
 
jr. member
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I'm hosting slimcoin 0.6.0 on ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS now. Syncing was fast at the beginning, but now is stalling. This is the result of getpeerinfo. Very confusing, if I compare "hight" and "subver", for example. It's 21 active connections. Often there is hight 2277690, but some newer versions are ahead of this. chainz.cryptoid.info is on hight 2278847. None of my peers has the hight of cryptoid.

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sr. member
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why dont u start paying gjhiggins guy for his work? This walton goggins fellow, or call him walton higgins, he is here to donate his life to u.
Had you more respect/regard, you might have questioned the reliability of your assumptions. I'm not for hire.
I thought so, this guy has made obviously some casual comment provided he is not a bot. 
legendary
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why dont u start paying gjhiggins guy for his work? This walton goggins fellow, or call him walton higgins, he is here to donate his life to u.
Had you more respect/regard, you might have questioned the reliability of your assumptions. I'm not for hire.

Cheers

Graham
legendary
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... begin to speak without having technical knowledge ... what each quick suggestion they have would imply to you in terms of time and effort

So I apologise for all the times I've spoken like that.
Thank you for appreciating that, creating detailed esponses to unconsidered "why don't we ...?" suggestions is getting more tedious to me as time goes on. Without at least a basic technical grounding it's all too easy to indulge in flights of fancy.

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I think when we speak about your personal interest there are two kind of personal interest, and I'm not sure which one you are referring to: the financial and the ideal one.
Neither, it's far more prosaic than that. As I've mentioned previously, I'll be 70 next year and I literally don't have time to waste pursuing other people's fantasies.

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I believe the PoD token will become the game changer in the cryptoworld. Maybe it won't shine in the context of SLM, because we may not be able to convince people that the PoD token can function in this context, but I hope it will influence people to do great things that will help the mankind:
Many people apparently hold similar personal beliefs and some have used them as justification for the launch of a crytpocurrency. One thing that has become evident is that belief isn't enough on its own. If your notion is to have even a chance of success then it needs to be grounded with solid market research, else you're basically dealing in the realm of fantasy.

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I think that the time of the coins that are just clones, a mix of existing technologies and even of existing ideas is over.
Only the coins that have something really new will get the necessary attention. People are literally fed up with all this mixing and relaunching of the old stuff without sense.
Again, solid market research would give you the facts and figures on which base reliable inferences and conclusions. It will also inform your marketing tactics and strategy.

As regards the Slimcoin community, I'll leave you to reflect on what the occasional staker's experience might be if the listening nodes all switched over to using an 0.16 client which ignored connections from old clients.
 
Cheers

Graham

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...higgins, he is here to donate his life to u....
Indeed Graham is a very important person here.

...why dont u start paying gjhiggins guy for his work?
It's what we were speaking about and with the PoD token we'll have the possibility to do it even better, but I wouldn't like to make proposals that don't make sense to Graham. That's why I'm trying to understand whether there is something he could be interested in and what is that thing.
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There is an unfortunate consequence of the design of the Slimcoin burn approach - coins are burned in a transaction and any unspent burn rewards will qualify as staking coins and if allowed to stake, those stake rewards themselves will qualify as staking coins, which if allowed to stake ... and so on, and so on. Setting a reservebalance merely limits the amount of stake processing, it doesn't stop it entirely. The computational demand of stake processing (effectively, continuously calculating the UTXO set) isn't such a significant factor with Peercoin with its shorter blockchain but with Slimcoin the (not entirely unpredictable) computational consequences of a 90s block time on the PoS staking calculations are starting to kick in quite sharply for those with well-funded wallets. It's not even clear whether an update to a later clone of Bitcoin would provide any actual solution - Bitcoin, being pure PoW, has no specific UTXO calculation optimisations that the PoS staking calculations could benefit from.

If I understand correctly you were trying all these years to mitigate the consequences of the decisions of the other people, that have left this project years ago.

Maybe it may make sense to change the architecture that is creating all this resources usage, since we are presumably in the middle of the upgrade to the latest Peercoin's code?

A peculiar thought just culminated in my foreheadal area - a rapid and jingly draught of electric current destined to reach the foremost neuron claster where thought production is normally carried out. Here is the nature of my thought, why dont u start paying gjhiggins guy for his work? This walton goggins fellow, or call him walton higgins, he is here to donate his life to u. His stint started twenty years back and has never ended since then.
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Slimcoin - the Proof of Donation inventors!
I understand your point
I don't believe you did. I wasn't referring to ROI for others but personal ROI for me. I'm never sure who these "we could" suggestions are aimed at. As far as I know, I'm the only member of the community with the requisite skillset and without any kind of disambiguating "this is how we'd do it" context, they come across as implying that I should undertake the work and if that's the case, I'm the one you need to convince that the time and effort would be worthwhile.

I was thinking these days about how you should feel when people like me arrive and begin to speak without having technical knowledge.
Probably you'd perceive it as funny if it weren't annoying because people just basically don't understand what each quick suggestion they have would imply to you in terms of time and effort. Sometimes they even just don't know and care who would lose that time for them. And most part of the times their suggestions have been already thought and pondered many times.  

So I apologise for all the times I've spoken like that. The profane thinks always he knows better than the expert.

Having said that, I think when we speak about your personal interest there are two kind of personal interest, and I'm not sure which one you are referring to: the financial and the ideal one.

If you are considering the financial interest. I'm seeing two kinds of possible financial interests:
1) Direct payment for the time and effort dedicated;
2) Indirect benefiting from the market price change.

The ideal interest is for me that kind of thing that makes you feel you've done something that was worth doing regardless of the personal financial results.

I'm describing it all in the detail because I'm not sure which of the above we are speaking about or if it's a mix or just something completely different.

However if we speak about the ideal interest, I think I've described my PoD idea a bit in the past. I'm working on it because I believe the PoD token will become the game changer in the cryptoworld. Maybe it won't shine in the context of SLM, because we may not be able to convince people that the PoD token can function in this context, but I hope it will influence people to do great things that will help the mankind:

1) Helping the most unfortunate people out of their situation;
2) Increasing the circulating information transparency;
3) Improving the educational processes;
4) Encouraging the scientific research;
5) Finally stimulating the economy and the progress;

To dimostrate what I'm saying I need to produce the documentation, but if any of these points seem to worth discussing for you I'm open to speak about.

Possibly speaking about the direct financial interest, p.1 above, I don't really know what is your financial situation and what can be interesting for you, but we can discuss about it as I'm trying to invest into SLM and I believe that without being paid the good professional won't contribute in a long run.

If we are speaking about p.2 above, here I have more difficulty to consider any hypothesis, because I don't know how much involved you are in SLM and of course it's difficult for me to stimulate your expectations, because you have much more experience in the cryptoworld than me. If you are quite involved in SLM maybe seeing the SLM price increasing would be the best way to convince you, here I can only wait and hope (there is no better argumentation than results).

It's easy to launch coins but these days it's far more difficult to attract the interest and engagement of a new community (one recent example here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/surfnode-coin-cryptocurrency-using-x11-algorithm-powposmn-5293602)
I think that the time of the coins that are just clones, a mix of existing technologies and even of existing ideas is over.
Only the coins that have something really new will get the necessary attention. People are literally fed up with all this mixing and relaunching of the old stuff without sense.
And I believe the PoD token idea is that kind of new thing.
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I understand your point
I don't believe you did. I wasn't referring to ROI for others but personal ROI for me. I'm never sure who these "we could" suggestions are aimed at. As far as I know, I'm the only member of the community with the requisite skillset and without any kind of disambiguating "this is how we'd do it" context, they come across as implying that I should undertake the work and if that's the case, I'm the one you need to convince that the time and effort would be worthwhile.

Creating new coins isn't all that demanding, technically speaking. For several years now, I've kept Minkiz' Foundry up to date with the latest Bitcoin version (now working on the 0.20 template).




Minkiz' Foundry started off as a non-functional ironic comment on all the algo-variant altcoins released a few years ago which were basically the same Bitcoin codebase except they used a different PoW algo. As this was a relatively trivial change to the codebase which could be easily automated via a template-based solution, it amused me to make the tongue-in-cheek offering secretly real. (You'll notice that the Dcrypt algo is one of the offerings.)

I used a Foundry 0.16.3 template as the base for an upgrade of Gapcoin from 0.9 to 0.16.3 (https://github.com/gjhiggins/gapcoin-core) and similarly for Datacoin, upgrading Crossverse's 0.15.99 upgrade of the 0.8.6 client to something more maintainable (https://github.com/gjhiggins/datacoin). Unfortunately, neither community is what you might call enthused.

It's easy to launch coins but these days it's far more difficult to attract the interest and engagement of a new community (one recent example here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/surfnode-coin-cryptocurrency-using-x11-algorithm-powposmn-5293602)

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Graham
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Slimcoin - the Proof of Donation inventors!
But in the same moment we'll have another coin, (like people that have BTC and BCH in the same time) that carries on the original idea of PoB and develops it into direction that can help it recover the community and the market price.

I'll emphasise this point until its significance is acknowledged and the issue addressed ...
I find it difficult to see any significant demand for a new Slimcoin chain, which makes the personal ROI very doubtful.

I understand your point, but if I think about BTC it doesn't have any ROI at all, and many other coins as well and in the same time there is no point in seeing the main capital's market value decreasing in order to have some tiny ROI, that any case doesn't compensate the capital's loss.

There are people who are looking for a kind of permanent ROI, but I wouldn't say they are arriving in great quantities here, there are other people that are investing into the coin they believe will increase in its value. Without the later we can't hope to see the price of SLM growing. And to have them we need at least to improve the code in order to be it smoothly usable by not technically savvy people. And then, with the help of the PoD token, we'll be able to begin thinking about development.
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