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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 29, 2023, 03:29:35 PM

Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 12:19:55 PM

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But doesn't mean, other people getting the same experience like you did. If your section is on the bad section, other people might have a good section compared to you. In term of gambling, while you're losing on the other hand (someone is winning). So telling the slot are giving a small or bad result on your experience are not quite true because to see the RTP you need million of spin and a lot bonus section. You cannot find it, with just a small spin & small bonus section.

However, gambling are to be designed (house always win). So, always more expect to lose comparing win to give at least you're not hoping to much for winning.

Exactly! I also can't understand the slot players who think specific slots owe them so much and they will recover after the next bonus. This shows how they are uneducated and they compare their personal small session stats with overall RTP without being honest about the potential return. General RTP is based on billions of spins and no one can tell what will happen on the next bonus round no matter how much you have lost on previous gameplay.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 12:19:55 PM

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But doesn't mean, other people getting the same experience like you did. If your section is on the bad section, other people might have a good section compared to you. In term of gambling, while you're losing on the other hand (someone is winning). So telling the slot are giving a small or bad result on your experience are not quite true because to see the RTP you need million of spin and a lot bonus section. You cannot find it, with just a small spin & small bonus section.

However, gambling are to be designed (house always win). So, always more expect to lose comparing win to give at least you're not hoping to much for winning.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 26, 2023, 12:54:47 PM

Quote from: tusandii on June 26, 2023, 11:12:43 AM

Several years ago, many gamblers liked Gates Of Olympus because it was very easy to win and issued a large multiplier, but not now, where it is very rare to get big wins from this type of slot.
The average gambler who is after their big win plays in high volatility slots with quite large bets.
I've tried Gates Of Olympus several times lately and I can only get small wins that are equivalent to my capital.

The slot game that I have avoided for about 2 months is the Play'n Go provider because there it only sucks up the entire balance without giving a decent return.

The fact is that Gates of Olympus is one of the most played games and the most often gives MaxWin to users I often see short videos uploaded to YouTube only 2 games dominated Gates Of Olympus and Starlight Princess, based on my experience for every game from Pragmatic I can only get 2x Maxwin in one game it doesn't matter how much I play it so if you feel this game is too often sucking your balance this means you have reached the limit Cheesy

just kidding. I have my own way when the right time to get out of this game for example, the x2 multiplier falls too often so I will not continue the game usually it's a bad session.

It seems that you have misjudged the game broadcasts on YouTube because we don't know whether they use an account that has been specifically designed to get Maxwin with the aim of attracting gamblers or really use their real personal account.
Honestly, I can't just believe in the victory of the game that is broadcast on YouTube.

Maybe you can have 1 or 2 maxwins in one game, but do you realize how much you have spent to get the maxwin?
There is no need to expect maxwin in slot games because being able to have a return on defeat is more than enough. Cheesy

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 28, 2023, 10:19:28 AM

Would you laugh more if someone deposited IDR 800k and got a jackpot of IDR 13 million. But big wins don't get withdrawn and lose again on the same slot machine. The next day the person deposited again, until a week later it didn't feel like he had deposited up to IDR 15 million. It was a very bad experience

I'm not going to tell you who the really unlucky guy at the slot machine is. But it should be noted that the story is real

My close friend has also experienced something like this, but the difference is that he deposited far more money than your story has experienced. A month ago we were playing domino slots and my friend deposited $67 and within a few minutes he hit a jackpot of almost $1329 if I'm not mistaken but because of greed didn't withdraw some of the winnings and in the end he lost all his winnings. We may have experienced bad experiences like this, it's just that maybe the difference is in the amount and when greed cannot be controlled, then in the end we will experience the same fate.

Slot habits do have the same pattern and when a big win has been won and not withdrawn it will result in defeat in the next round. An important lesson that I got from several incidents, when we get a big win in a slot, it's best to withdraw it first and leave the rest in the account to play next.

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Quote from: dimonstration on June 29, 2023, 09:29:01 AM

Yeah, It’s really terrible how Gates of Olympus drop multiplier and connect works. It’s like they really doesn’t want to pay now while most of their spin result gives you false hope of winning big. I remember, I manage to get x100 mutiplier with 0.1$ win on that round. After that hit, I never get a multiplier drop on my remaining spin and that’s the closest thing happened to me in regards of winning on this slot games.

Hacksaw gaming also is one of the worst in terms of bonus round ROI. I wasted a lot of spins on their Rotten without hitting any huge amount higher than 5$ win. Cheesy

How about Play'N Go or Red Tiger? I think they are still doing well at giving small wins. Although maybe I have never hit the jackpot or won big more than $ 50 on those two providers that's enough for me, and I can celebrate with friends Grin

But we know that slot games like that always require luck to win and even win big. And if you can't win big, you're out of luck. It's been a long time since I played slots at the Pragmatic provider because I was aiming for the Bonus Buy feature, but that also didn't give me good results for me. Even after buying the Bonus feature 2 times, the results are still the same.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 28, 2023, 10:19:28 AM

Would you laugh more if someone deposited IDR 800k and got a jackpot of IDR 13 million. But big wins don't get withdrawn and lose again on the same slot machine. The next day the person deposited again, until a week later it didn't feel like he had deposited up to IDR 15 million. It was a very bad experience

I'm not going to tell you who the really unlucky guy at the slot machine is. But it should be noted that the story is real

As a gambler, I have gone through various stories and generally we have the same story so I won't be surprised but of course I laughed Cheesy

From some stories and experiences now I can make a decision if I am in the same situation for example stop when I have won it doesn't matter if it's 30% -100% of my total bankroll. Last Wednesday I received a $80 campaign payment and I played for a few minutes then my balance increased to $140, of course I stopped and asked for withdrawal, leaving only a few dollars on my account to increase my wagering and VIP level.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 26, 2023, 04:40:06 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on June 26, 2023, 11:21:05 AM

Last year is pretty generous for Gates of Olympus so I’m not surprising some hitting maxwin multiple times within a week since their multiplier drop like crazy before probably to promote well pragmatic slots. Also it only have x5000 maxwin while I saw Roycilik winning multiplier greater than that multiple times when he is hunting.

To be honest here. I still don’t hit above x1000 multiplier on my slot games ever since but this is due to my lack of interest on pursuing it. Cheesy

Yes, that's right, before the Gates of Olympus it was still easier to get big wins. Now it is very difficult and unreasonable. When symbols connect, no multiplier drops, when multipliers drop, no symbols connect. More to lose when buying freespin. Very hard to get blue/red lightning multiplier

I suggest don't force yourself to get maxwin. If they really don't want to give maxwin, forcing it will make you lose a lot, and when you get maxwin, maybe it won't return your lost money.

Yeah, It’s really terrible how Gates of Olympus drop multiplier and connect works. It’s like they really doesn’t want to pay now while most of their spin result gives you false hope of winning big. I remember, I manage to get x100 mutiplier with 0.1$ win on that round. After that hit, I never get a multiplier drop on my remaining spin and that’s the closest thing happened to me in regards of winning on this slot games.

Hacksaw gaming also is one of the worst in terms of bonus round ROI. I wasted a lot of spins on their Rotten without hitting any huge amount higher than 5$ win. Cheesy

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 28, 2023, 09:00:07 AM

We will never see Maxwin in this game (Sweet Bonanza) even since it was launched the highest multiplier is 3181x even though this game is one of the most played games, it seems designed without Maxwin.

It seems so, I've searched on youtube but exactly nothing to get maxwin in the sweet bonanza game. Looks like it's just a promotion, the sweet bonanza really doesn't work for maxwin. Most pragmatic slots that provide maxwin are slots with maxwin x5000

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Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2023, 05:34:47 AM

when I remember that , I want to laugh, how ambitious I was to find a win and forget about the amount of money I lost. Cheesy

To be honest I smiled reading this one Grin

I have experienced it and at least I know it's not just me who experienced it so once the concept of gambling disrupts us
You know until now I always avoid my wallet to save money sometimes the mind arises when I leave money in my wallet, the only way is to leave the wallet empty.
From my experience a small bankroll often gives me profit conversely if my bankroll is more then I lose more often.

Would you laugh more if someone deposited IDR 800k and got a jackpot of IDR 13 million. But big wins don't get withdrawn and lose again on the same slot machine. The next day the person deposited again, until a week later it didn't feel like he had deposited up to IDR 15 million. It was a very bad experience

I'm not going to tell you who the really unlucky guy at the slot machine is. But it should be noted that the story is real

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 26, 2023, 04:40:06 PM

I agree with you. The more wins they offer (x10.000), the harder it is to get them. like a sweet bonanza (x21.000) I've never seen anyone get maxwin at sweet bonanza or other similar games

We will never see Maxwin in this game (Sweet Bonanza) even since it was launched the highest multiplier is 3181x even though this game is one of the most played games, it seems designed without Maxwin.

Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2023, 05:34:47 AM

when I remember that , I want to laugh, how ambitious I was to find a win and forget about the amount of money I lost. Cheesy

To be honest I smiled reading this one Grin

I have experienced it and at least I know it's not just me who experienced it so once the concept of gambling disrupts us
You know until now I always avoid my wallet to save money sometimes the mind arises when I leave money in my wallet, the only way is to leave the wallet empty.
From my experience a small bankroll often gives me profit conversely if my bankroll is more then I lose more often.

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Quote from: Betwrong on June 28, 2023, 03:26:37 AM

Yeah, but when you bet more, you lose more in the long run, and even though I'd win $12 instead of $2.40 if I bet $1 instead of $0.20, I'd spend 5 times more before hitting those 3 scatters. And since, as you rightly said, it can take more 100 spins before reaching, it can lead to substantial losses. That's why I'm trying to play slots with a lowest bet possible, $0.10 or $0.20, and normally avoid slots with a minimum bet above $0.20.

Playing with minimal is a good choice to plaing for fun, because when we lose it, it doesn't matter. I still remember when I told @mu_enrico when I lost IDR 6m in a week, I was laughed at by him, because he had reminded me before, play for fun, deposit USD 20 for a week, so when you lose it doesn't hurt your finances. But, I can't control, even whenever I play, I can't stop. After 2 months playing slots, Instead of playing with the smallest bet, I often make a bet $ 0.8 lol. so IDR1m deposits often run out in 1 hour or less. when I remember that , I want to laugh, how ambitious I was to find a win and forget about the amount of money I lost. Cheesy

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Quote from: masulum on June 21, 2023, 05:04:19 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on June 21, 2023, 04:20:44 AM

Today after reading your post I tried to play Big Bass Splash by Pragmatic again, and my aim was getting 3 scatters and see what it gives me. I did hit 3 scatters pretty soon, after like 5-6 spins, but in the end I was a bit disappointed by the results. I won $2.40 with my 10 free spins, and although it wasn't that bad, considering that the base bet was just $0.20, I must say I was expecting something better. (Unfortunately images from imgur aren't showing on bitcointalk and talkimg can’t be reached right now, so although I did make screenshots, I can't show them).

Yes, that's the most annoying side when getting free spins. many of us had high expectations when we managed to get free spins, unfortunately when it come, we only got not connected symbols. Even if 1 or 2 is connected, unfortunately only pays back less than $10 in total for a base bet under $0.5. to bet more, maybe you can get more than $10, but to reach freespins, you can spend more than 100x spins. However, this is part of the game, I have even earned $ 0 from free spins not from bonus buys. Tongue

Yeah, but when you bet more, you lose more in the long run, and even though I'd win $12 instead of $2.40 if I bet $1 instead of $0.20, I'd spend 5 times more before hitting those 3 scatters. And since, as you rightly said, it can take more 100 spins before reaching, it can lead to substantial losses. That's why I'm trying to play slots with a lowest bet possible, $0.10 or $0.20, and normally avoid slots with a minimum bet above $0.20.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 26, 2023, 06:17:43 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on June 26, 2023, 03:56:34 AM

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5x maxwin in a week? that's amazing, that's crazy, I don't think anyone can get maxwin up to 5x in a week like you guys. I once had 2x maxwin on buffalo megaways, and after that, just like you, I had a lot to lose. I never been given a profit of more than 500x.

It was the best week in my gambling history, I did not even expect to experience it. After the first max win, I played the game again and again both with normal spins and buy bonus. However all my 5x max win were from buy bonus, my best multiplier in this game with normal spins was around 2,000x only if I remember it correctly. Buffalo King megaways is also good game because the chance to hit max win is available in every spins of the bonus round but it requires more than 2 wild multipliers the reels to make it big total multiplier.

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Quote from: dimonstration on June 26, 2023, 11:21:05 AM

Last year is pretty generous for Gates of Olympus so I’m not surprising some hitting maxwin multiple times within a week since their multiplier drop like crazy before probably to promote well pragmatic slots. Also it only have x5000 maxwin while I saw Roycilik winning multiplier greater than that multiple times when he is hunting.

To be honest here. I still don’t hit above x1000 multiplier on my slot games ever since but this is due to my lack of interest on pursuing it. Cheesy

Yes, that's right, before the Gates of Olympus it was still easier to get big wins. Now it is very difficult and unreasonable. When symbols connect, no multiplier drops, when multipliers drop, no symbols connect. More to lose when buying freespin. Very hard to get blue/red lightning multiplier

I suggest don't force yourself to get maxwin. If they really don't want to give maxwin, forcing it will make you lose a lot, and when you get maxwin, maybe it won't return your lost money.

Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 26, 2023, 01:57:14 PM

For Big Bass Amazon Xtreme I haven't tried it I know this is more risky so we need to prepare enough bankroll, it's not difficult to detect when Pragmatic released a new game and offers x10000 multiplier it will be difficult to get ROI, as you said if we at the right time then a big win could be achieved. So far stake users haven't reached Maxwin the highest multiplier is x7716.

I agree with you. The more wins they offer (x10.000), the harder it is to get them. like a sweet bonanza (x21.000) I've never seen anyone get maxwin at sweet bonanza or other similar games

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Quote from: len01 on June 25, 2023, 04:54:58 PM

it's been almost a month since my last win at Sweet Bonanza Xmas until yesterday I didn't play slots anymore and today tried my luck using the money from the weekly bonus and made a maxwin. Tongue

but unfortunately I only use the minimum bet amount so I only get a slightly small win.

but not bad, the grandpa still gave me good luck.
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/IXr5W9ttbR

Nice win! I tried to watch the replay but the site can't be reach, my internet is fine since I have the cmd console on ping and it has no intermittent connection I don't know what's the problem but I have a hunch that it was on my ISP provider. That two 100x, one 500x, and one 25x plus hour glass tumble is really astonishing. I bet some streamer would be envy of that screenshot. tumble because many of those not so lucky streamers are yet to get a max win on Gates of Olympus.

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Quote from: len01 on June 25, 2023, 04:54:58 PM

it's been almost a month since my last win at Sweet Bonanza Xmas until yesterday I didn't play slots anymore and today tried my luck using the money from the weekly bonus and made a maxwin. Tongue

but unfortunately I only use the minimum bet amount so I only get a slightly small win.

but not bad, the grandpa still gave me good luck.
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/IXr5W9ttbR

Wow, incredible lucky shot on Gates!
This slot has been the worst choice for bonus buys for me, it doesn't hit over 50x multipliers anyways.
Congrats and don't go back to Gates for obvious reason.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 26, 2023, 01:57:14 PM

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Today Wisdom of Athena was released from Pragmatic Play to address these issues,now any win no matter if there is a multiplier or not during that win will be multiplied by the overall multiplier that is active,there are only 10 free spins here but the chances to win big in this slot are much more than Gates of Olympus.

Also lately Pragmatic Play released the most extreme version of the Big Bass series which is Big Bass Amazon Extreme meaning they are stepping up their game in the sense that we will continue to lose in the long run but when we will reach the final level in games like Big Bass extreme we will have x50 multipliers meaning we are going to win most likely that x10000 max bet.

Yeah I've seen it when the streamers play it but actually I've played it since 2 weeks ago local casino released this game first on June 6 don't know why the popular casino released it a bit late this is what I got after trying it. Indeed this game should be easier and more fun than Gate Of Olympus but the fact is this is more difficult IMO, as a new game it's still worth to try it will usually be more friendly.

For Big Bass Amazon Xtreme I haven't tried it I know this is more risky so we need to prepare enough bankroll, it's not difficult to detect when Pragmatic released a new game and offers x10000 multiplier it will be difficult to get ROI, as you said if we at the right time then a big win could be achieved. So far stake users haven't reached Maxwin the highest multiplier is x7716.

That is still a huge multiplier in Stake at x7716 in a game like Big Bass series.It is extremely difficult of course as I played more than 10.000 spins and only one time I got to the x20 multiplier,I imagine we truly need like 100.000 spins or more to get to that legendary x50 multiplier.It would help to have such data from Pragmatic as one in how many bonus buy will go to x50 and we can go there,of course if we go there it does not mean that we will win that x10.000 multiplier so Pragmatic can as well publish this data,No Limit City does in the sense that they say an approximate number of spins to win the bonus,it is in the same range of Pragmatic,maximum once in 500 spins in average,I tried all Big Bass games now and the average bonus was 1 in 200-250 spins from Pragmatic.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 26, 2023, 01:01:28 PM

Today Wisdom of Athena was released from Pragmatic Play to address these issues,now any win no matter if there is a multiplier or not during that win will be multiplied by the overall multiplier that is active,there are only 10 free spins here but the chances to win big in this slot are much more than Gates of Olympus.

Also lately Pragmatic Play released the most extreme version of the Big Bass series which is Big Bass Amazon Extreme meaning they are stepping up their game in the sense that we will continue to lose in the long run but when we will reach the final level in games like Big Bass extreme we will have x50 multipliers meaning we are going to win most likely that x10000 max bet.

Yeah I've seen it when the streamers play it but actually I've played it since 2 weeks ago local casino released this game first on June 6 don't know why the popular casino released it a bit late this is what I got after trying it. Indeed this game should be easier and more fun than Gate Of Olympus but the fact is this is more difficult IMO, as a new game it's still worth to try it will usually be more friendly.

For Big Bass Amazon Xtreme I haven't tried it I know this is more risky so we need to prepare enough bankroll, it's not difficult to detect when Pragmatic released a new game and offers x10000 multiplier it will be difficult to get ROI, as you said if we at the right time then a big win could be achieved. So far stake users haven't reached Maxwin the highest multiplier is x7716.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 26, 2023, 12:54:47 PM

Quote from: tusandii on June 26, 2023, 11:12:43 AM

Several years ago, many gamblers liked Gates Of Olympus because it was very easy to win and issued a large multiplier, but not now, where it is very rare to get big wins from this type of slot.
The average gambler who is after their big win plays in high volatility slots with quite large bets.
I've tried Gates Of Olympus several times lately and I can only get small wins that are equivalent to my capital.

The slot game that I have avoided for about 2 months is the Play'n Go provider because there it only sucks up the entire balance without giving a decent return.

The fact is that Gates of Olympus is one of the most played games and the most often gives MaxWin to users I often see short videos uploaded to YouTube only 2 games dominated Gates Of Olympus and Starlight Princess, based on my experience for every game from Pragmatic I can only get 2x Maxwin in one game it doesn't matter how much I play it so if you feel this game is too often sucking your balance this means you have reached the limit Cheesy

just kidding. I have my own way when the right time to get out of this game for example, the x2 multiplier falls too often so I will not continue the game usually it's a bad session.

Today Wisdom of Athena was released from Pragmatic Play to address these issues,now any win no matter if there is a multiplier or not during that win will be multiplied by the overall multiplier that is active,there are only 10 free spins here but the chances to win big in this slot are much more than Gates of Olympus.

Also lately Pragmatic Play released the most extreme version of the Big Bass series which is Big Bass Amazon Extreme meaning they are stepping up their game in the sense that we will continue to lose in the long run but when we will reach the final level in games like Big Bass extreme we will have x50 multipliers meaning we are going to win most likely that x10000 max bet.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 26, 2023, 11:12:43 AM

Several years ago, many gamblers liked Gates Of Olympus because it was very easy to win and issued a large multiplier, but not now, where it is very rare to get big wins from this type of slot.
The average gambler who is after their big win plays in high volatility slots with quite large bets.
I've tried Gates Of Olympus several times lately and I can only get small wins that are equivalent to my capital.

The slot game that I have avoided for about 2 months is the Play'n Go provider because there it only sucks up the entire balance without giving a decent return.

The fact is that Gates of Olympus is one of the most played games and the most often gives MaxWin to users I often see short videos uploaded to YouTube only 2 games dominated Gates Of Olympus and Starlight Princess, based on my experience for every game from Pragmatic I can only get 2x Maxwin in one game it doesn't matter how much I play it so if you feel this game is too often sucking your balance this means you have reached the limit Cheesy

just kidding. I have my own way when the right time to get out of this game for example, the x2 multiplier falls too often so I will not continue the game usually it's a bad session.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 26, 2023, 06:17:43 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on June 26, 2023, 03:56:34 AM

Quote from: len01 on June 25, 2023, 04:54:58 PM

it's been almost a month since my last win at Sweet Bonanza Xmas until yesterday I didn't play slots anymore and today tried my luck using the money from the weekly bonus and made a maxwin. Tongue

but unfortunately I only use the minimum bet amount so I only get a slightly small win.

but not bad, the grandpa still gave me good luck.
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/IXr5W9ttbR

Gates of Olympus...was my favorite slot few years ago when I was still active in duelbits not only while I was participating in their promotion but also for normal gambling. I had 5x maxwin in a week at that time but it gives me no more good result for long time now because I cant even hit more than 1000x in this game regardless how much is my base bet. I think I have no more luck in this game for more than a year, so I decided to skip this game for a while already and move to the other games.

5x maxwin in a week? that's amazing, that's crazy, I don't think anyone can get maxwin up to 5x in a week like you guys. I once had 2x maxwin on buffalo megaways, and after that, just like you, I had a lot to lose. I never been given a profit of more than 500x.

I think it's better to change the slot machine when I get a big win. I love the Buffalo King Megaways slot so much that I've never played another slot. I lost a lot because I forced myself to get maxwin.

Bad experience, now I learned that playing gambling should not be carried away by emotions. Although leaving the slot was quite difficult, now I can manage my finances.

Last year is pretty generous for Gates of Olympus so I’m not surprising some hitting maxwin multiple times within a week since their multiplier drop like crazy before probably to promote well pragmatic slots. Also it only have x5000 maxwin while I saw Roycilik winning multiplier greater than that multiple times when he is hunting.

To be honest here. I still don’t hit above x1000 multiplier on my slot games ever since but this is due to my lack of interest on pursuing it. Cheesy

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