Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) - page 19.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 30, 2023, 02:11:13 PM

It can be both fake money and not real one but can also be based money sponsored by the casino as most of those streamers do point out to the casino they are playing,they tell the people to register there under their link so they can receive some commissions and as such to bring traffic to the casino.

I have personal experience of something like this. When I was still active as a blogger and article writer, I got an offer to write articles on gambling sites that had just been established, I made almost all of my articles there. After the website was deemed sufficient, I was invited to do a test slot game to see if something was wrong or not working. I get paid to do this test

When I test the slot machines, they always fill my account with $1000 of fake money. If it runs out they will refill it. Even when I asked for $10,000 they gave it, but the counterfeit money is can't be withdrawl.

After the test process was complete, I was offered to work as an influencer on YouTube, they filled in fake money when I would start creating content to upload on YouTube. But I refused this offer

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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 30, 2023, 02:06:58 PM

I really addicted to these : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sy_yUnznbI

Did anyone in here have experience playing MONSTER SUPERLANCHE? based the game mechanism seem like the volatility of these slot is not really high could be on "High" category not "Very-High".

I watch a ton of these slot, but still not tried yet (waiting 15 Jully first for my payment).

I always play this slot game especially when it was first launched I tried it in several casinos but honestly I lost more often when playing it, I think sweet bonanza and gates of olympus are more friendly than this game. Additional information for this game, if you get a full screen in the game (any symbol including random symbols) then you will get extra x50 multiplier, usually to get a moment like this at least 2-3 different symbols must be active in the game like in this screenshot. So far my highest active multiplier is x160+ and total multiplier is x2000+

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Quote from: Bitinity on June 30, 2023, 03:12:16 AM

Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 01:19:55 PM

It seems that you have misjudged the game broadcasts on YouTube because we don't know whether they use an account that has been specifically designed to get Maxwin with the aim of attracting gamblers or really use their real personal account.
Honestly, I can't just believe in the victory of the game that is broadcast on YouTube.

The ones you watched on youtube is basically the same as what you see in this thread. I dont understand why you can say that there is account which is designed to get maxwin, I know it is possible but I dont think it is happening because if you think so then you are judging that there is a collaboration between 3 parties (player, casino and the provider) to make fake max win. What I cant believe is not the reality of the max win, but the reality of the money. Is that real money spent by the players, is that fake money or is that real money but sponsored by the casino only.

It can be both fake money and not real one but can also be based money sponsored by the casino as most of those streamers do point out to the casino they are playing,they tell the people to register there under their link so they can receive some commissions and as such to bring traffic to the casino.There is also a psychological factor to it as most newbies will think let's try out this casino as who knows we can hit the max win also,so I do not exclude a casino who has the means to sponsor big streamers so they can win big in the casino and as such to bring traffic to that casino,nothing wrong here.

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I really addicted to these : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sy_yUnznbI

Did anyone in here have experience playing MONSTER SUPERLANCHE? based the game mechanism seem like the volatility of these slot is not really high could be on "High" category not "Very-High".

I watch a ton of these slot, but still not tried yet (waiting 15 Jully first for my payment).

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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 29, 2023, 04:29:35 PM

Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 01:19:55 PM

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But doesn't mean, other people getting the same experience like you did. If your section is on the bad section, other people might have a good section compared to you. In term of gambling, while you're losing on the other hand (someone is winning). So telling the slot are giving a small or bad result on your experience are not quite true because to see the RTP you need million of spin and a lot bonus section. You cannot find it, with just a small spin & small bonus section.

However, gambling are to be designed (house always win). So, always more expect to lose comparing win to give at least you're not hoping to much for winning.

Yes, indeed not all gamblers have experience and luck like me, but at least I can see quite a lot of gamblers who lose more often than win in slot games.
I also admit that there are still many gamblers here who have won big wins several times but more have also lost their money without winning.

I've always understood that the house is designed to always win and that's why I can now have limits so I don't lose too much.

Quote from: Bitinity on June 30, 2023, 03:12:16 AM

Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 01:19:55 PM

It seems that you have misjudged the game broadcasts on YouTube because we don't know whether they use an account that has been specifically designed to get Maxwin with the aim of attracting gamblers or really use their real personal account.
Honestly, I can't just believe in the victory of the game that is broadcast on YouTube.

The ones you watched on youtube is basically the same as what you see in this thread. I dont understand why you can say that there is account which is designed to get maxwin, I know it is possible but I dont think it is happening because if you think so then you are judging that there is a collaboration between 3 parties (player, casino and the provider) to make fake max win. What I cant believe is not the reality of the max win, but the reality of the money. Is that real money spent by the players, is that fake money or is that real money but sponsored by the casino only.

In fact, there are quite a number of influencers who broadcast live on YouTube and earn big wins every day.
What I understand is that it is impossible for normal gamblers to be able to win large amounts every day and where does the money they use to play come from, while in every round the bet is always very high.
That's why I can't trust live gambling broadcasts on YouTube that some streamers do.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on June 30, 2023, 05:46:32 AM

And then you deposit again since you haven't had enough of playing session Grin

That is certain when the play session is not enough and the desire to get a very big victory, in the end we re-deposit the balance for the account and so on will happen repeatedly. That's the slot game makes us comfortable in playing and will continue to give hope for victory, but in the end we will experience the same fate and remain as people who are harmed because they lose the bet.

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Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2023, 06:34:47 AM

when I lost IDR 6m in a week, I was laughed at by him, because he had reminded me before, play for fun, deposit USD 20 for a week, so when you lose it doesn't hurt your finances. But, I can't control, even whenever I play, I can't stop.

-snip- PS: I've been bullied by my wife when I lost big on a US election bet. The damage lasted for years since it become the best-laughing material in group hangouts with friends and families Grin

Must be careful when the child's mother has begun to intimidate let alone protest and do not let when returning home you have to sleep on the living room sofa Grin

. Always unpleasant be a laughing stock by friends in the hangout and that is really annoying.

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Quote from: lizarder on June 29, 2023, 12:49:45 PM

Slot habits do have the same pattern and when a big win has been won and not withdrawn it will result in defeat in the next round. An important lesson that I got from several incidents, when we get a big win in a slot, it's best to withdraw it first and leave the rest in the account to play next.

And then you deposit again since you haven't had enough of playing session Grin

Quote from: komisariatku on June 28, 2023, 11:19:28 AM

Would you laugh more if someone deposited IDR 800k and got a jackpot of IDR 13 million. But big wins don't get withdrawn and lose again on the same slot machine. The next day the person deposited again, until a week later it didn't feel like he had deposited up to IDR 15 million. It was a very bad experience

It's so common in slots. When you got the sweet taste of winning, you'll crave more.

Anyway, as usual, what I find "the best" way is to stick to your schedule and budget. For example, once a week, and <5% of your monthly income should be OK. Let's say you deposited $50 and then you won $500, withdraw $450 and play the $50 till you are satisfied. Play again next week or according to your schedule.

Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2023, 06:34:47 AM

when I lost IDR 6m in a week, I was laughed at by him, because he had reminded me before, play for fun, deposit USD 20 for a week, so when you lose it doesn't hurt your finances. But, I can't control, even whenever I play, I can't stop.

I honestly feel bad for you, but I chose to laugh at it since I thought you'll realize your mistake (aka stupidity) that way because many of us have that experience when we start our gambling journey. We were stupid and laughable at the same time Grin

Simply don't do it again or you'll become a meme material. Search for "korban slot" (en: slots victim) on youtube and you'll find many nasty stories.

PS: I've been bullied by my wife when I lost big on a US election bet. The damage lasted for years since it become the best-laughing material in group hangouts with friends and families Grin

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Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 01:19:55 PM

It seems that you have misjudged the game broadcasts on YouTube because we don't know whether they use an account that has been specifically designed to get Maxwin with the aim of attracting gamblers or really use their real personal account.
Honestly, I can't just believe in the victory of the game that is broadcast on YouTube.

The ones you watched on youtube is basically the same as what you see in this thread. I dont understand why you can say that there is account which is designed to get maxwin, I know it is possible but I dont think it is happening because if you think so then you are judging that there is a collaboration between 3 parties (player, casino and the provider) to make fake max win. What I cant believe is not the reality of the max win, but the reality of the money. Is that real money spent by the players, is that fake money or is that real money but sponsored by the casino only.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 29, 2023, 04:29:35 PM

Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 01:19:55 PM

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But doesn't mean, other people getting the same experience like you did. If your section is on the bad section, other people might have a good section compared to you. In term of gambling, while you're losing on the other hand (someone is winning). So telling the slot are giving a small or bad result on your experience are not quite true because to see the RTP you need million of spin and a lot bonus section. You cannot find it, with just a small spin & small bonus section.

However, gambling are to be designed (house always win). So, always more expect to lose comparing win to give at least you're not hoping to much for winning.

Exactly! I also can't understand the slot players who think specific slots owe them so much and they will recover after the next bonus. This shows how they are uneducated and they compare their personal small session stats with overall RTP without being honest about the potential return. General RTP is based on billions of spins and no one can tell what will happen on the next bonus round no matter how much you have lost on previous gameplay.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 01:19:55 PM

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But doesn't mean, other people getting the same experience like you did. If your section is on the bad section, other people might have a good section compared to you. In term of gambling, while you're losing on the other hand (someone is winning). So telling the slot are giving a small or bad result on your experience are not quite true because to see the RTP you need million of spin and a lot bonus section. You cannot find it, with just a small spin & small bonus section.

However, gambling are to be designed (house always win). So, always more expect to lose comparing win to give at least you're not hoping to much for winning.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 26, 2023, 01:54:47 PM

Quote from: tusandii on June 26, 2023, 12:12:43 PM

Several years ago, many gamblers liked Gates Of Olympus because it was very easy to win and issued a large multiplier, but not now, where it is very rare to get big wins from this type of slot.
The average gambler who is after their big win plays in high volatility slots with quite large bets.
I've tried Gates Of Olympus several times lately and I can only get small wins that are equivalent to my capital.

The slot game that I have avoided for about 2 months is the Play'n Go provider because there it only sucks up the entire balance without giving a decent return.

The fact is that Gates of Olympus is one of the most played games and the most often gives MaxWin to users I often see short videos uploaded to YouTube only 2 games dominated Gates Of Olympus and Starlight Princess, based on my experience for every game from Pragmatic I can only get 2x Maxwin in one game it doesn't matter how much I play it so if you feel this game is too often sucking your balance this means you have reached the limit Cheesy

just kidding. I have my own way when the right time to get out of this game for example, the x2 multiplier falls too often so I will not continue the game usually it's a bad session.

It seems that you have misjudged the game broadcasts on YouTube because we don't know whether they use an account that has been specifically designed to get Maxwin with the aim of attracting gamblers or really use their real personal account.
Honestly, I can't just believe in the victory of the game that is broadcast on YouTube.

Maybe you can have 1 or 2 maxwins in one game, but do you realize how much you have spent to get the maxwin?
There is no need to expect maxwin in slot games because being able to have a return on defeat is more than enough. Cheesy

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 28, 2023, 11:19:28 AM

Would you laugh more if someone deposited IDR 800k and got a jackpot of IDR 13 million. But big wins don't get withdrawn and lose again on the same slot machine. The next day the person deposited again, until a week later it didn't feel like he had deposited up to IDR 15 million. It was a very bad experience

I'm not going to tell you who the really unlucky guy at the slot machine is. But it should be noted that the story is real

My close friend has also experienced something like this, but the difference is that he deposited far more money than your story has experienced. A month ago we were playing domino slots and my friend deposited $67 and within a few minutes he hit a jackpot of almost $1329 if I'm not mistaken but because of greed didn't withdraw some of the winnings and in the end he lost all his winnings. We may have experienced bad experiences like this, it's just that maybe the difference is in the amount and when greed cannot be controlled, then in the end we will experience the same fate.

Slot habits do have the same pattern and when a big win has been won and not withdrawn it will result in defeat in the next round. An important lesson that I got from several incidents, when we get a big win in a slot, it's best to withdraw it first and leave the rest in the account to play next.

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Quote from: dimonstration on June 29, 2023, 10:29:01 AM

Yeah, It’s really terrible how Gates of Olympus drop multiplier and connect works. It’s like they really doesn’t want to pay now while most of their spin result gives you false hope of winning big. I remember, I manage to get x100 mutiplier with 0.1$ win on that round. After that hit, I never get a multiplier drop on my remaining spin and that’s the closest thing happened to me in regards of winning on this slot games.

Hacksaw gaming also is one of the worst in terms of bonus round ROI. I wasted a lot of spins on their Rotten without hitting any huge amount higher than 5$ win. Cheesy

How about Play'N Go or Red Tiger? I think they are still doing well at giving small wins. Although maybe I have never hit the jackpot or won big more than $ 50 on those two providers that's enough for me, and I can celebrate with friends Grin

But we know that slot games like that always require luck to win and even win big. And if you can't win big, you're out of luck. It's been a long time since I played slots at the Pragmatic provider because I was aiming for the Bonus Buy feature, but that also didn't give me good results for me. Even after buying the Bonus feature 2 times, the results are still the same.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 28, 2023, 11:19:28 AM

Would you laugh more if someone deposited IDR 800k and got a jackpot of IDR 13 million. But big wins don't get withdrawn and lose again on the same slot machine. The next day the person deposited again, until a week later it didn't feel like he had deposited up to IDR 15 million. It was a very bad experience

I'm not going to tell you who the really unlucky guy at the slot machine is. But it should be noted that the story is real

As a gambler, I have gone through various stories and generally we have the same story so I won't be surprised but of course I laughed Cheesy

From some stories and experiences now I can make a decision if I am in the same situation for example stop when I have won it doesn't matter if it's 30% -100% of my total bankroll. Last Wednesday I received a $80 campaign payment and I played for a few minutes then my balance increased to $140, of course I stopped and asked for withdrawal, leaving only a few dollars on my account to increase my wagering and VIP level.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 26, 2023, 05:40:06 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on June 26, 2023, 12:21:05 PM

Last year is pretty generous for Gates of Olympus so I’m not surprising some hitting maxwin multiple times within a week since their multiplier drop like crazy before probably to promote well pragmatic slots. Also it only have x5000 maxwin while I saw Roycilik winning multiplier greater than that multiple times when he is hunting.

To be honest here. I still don’t hit above x1000 multiplier on my slot games ever since but this is due to my lack of interest on pursuing it. Cheesy

Yes, that's right, before the Gates of Olympus it was still easier to get big wins. Now it is very difficult and unreasonable. When symbols connect, no multiplier drops, when multipliers drop, no symbols connect. More to lose when buying freespin. Very hard to get blue/red lightning multiplier

I suggest don't force yourself to get maxwin. If they really don't want to give maxwin, forcing it will make you lose a lot, and when you get maxwin, maybe it won't return your lost money.

Yeah, It’s really terrible how Gates of Olympus drop multiplier and connect works. It’s like they really doesn’t want to pay now while most of their spin result gives you false hope of winning big. I remember, I manage to get x100 mutiplier with 0.1$ win on that round. After that hit, I never get a multiplier drop on my remaining spin and that’s the closest thing happened to me in regards of winning on this slot games.

Hacksaw gaming also is one of the worst in terms of bonus round ROI. I wasted a lot of spins on their Rotten without hitting any huge amount higher than 5$ win. Cheesy

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 28, 2023, 10:00:07 AM

We will never see Maxwin in this game (Sweet Bonanza) even since it was launched the highest multiplier is 3181x even though this game is one of the most played games, it seems designed without Maxwin.

It seems so, I've searched on youtube but exactly nothing to get maxwin in the sweet bonanza game. Looks like it's just a promotion, the sweet bonanza really doesn't work for maxwin. Most pragmatic slots that provide maxwin are slots with maxwin x5000

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Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2023, 06:34:47 AM

when I remember that , I want to laugh, how ambitious I was to find a win and forget about the amount of money I lost. Cheesy

To be honest I smiled reading this one Grin

I have experienced it and at least I know it's not just me who experienced it so once the concept of gambling disrupts us
You know until now I always avoid my wallet to save money sometimes the mind arises when I leave money in my wallet, the only way is to leave the wallet empty.
From my experience a small bankroll often gives me profit conversely if my bankroll is more then I lose more often.

Would you laugh more if someone deposited IDR 800k and got a jackpot of IDR 13 million. But big wins don't get withdrawn and lose again on the same slot machine. The next day the person deposited again, until a week later it didn't feel like he had deposited up to IDR 15 million. It was a very bad experience

I'm not going to tell you who the really unlucky guy at the slot machine is. But it should be noted that the story is real

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 26, 2023, 05:40:06 PM

I agree with you. The more wins they offer (x10.000), the harder it is to get them. like a sweet bonanza (x21.000) I've never seen anyone get maxwin at sweet bonanza or other similar games

We will never see Maxwin in this game (Sweet Bonanza) even since it was launched the highest multiplier is 3181x even though this game is one of the most played games, it seems designed without Maxwin.

Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2023, 06:34:47 AM

when I remember that , I want to laugh, how ambitious I was to find a win and forget about the amount of money I lost. Cheesy

To be honest I smiled reading this one Grin

I have experienced it and at least I know it's not just me who experienced it so once the concept of gambling disrupts us
You know until now I always avoid my wallet to save money sometimes the mind arises when I leave money in my wallet, the only way is to leave the wallet empty.
From my experience a small bankroll often gives me profit conversely if my bankroll is more then I lose more often.

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Quote from: Betwrong on June 28, 2023, 04:26:37 AM

Yeah, but when you bet more, you lose more in the long run, and even though I'd win $12 instead of $2.40 if I bet $1 instead of $0.20, I'd spend 5 times more before hitting those 3 scatters. And since, as you rightly said, it can take more 100 spins before reaching, it can lead to substantial losses. That's why I'm trying to play slots with a lowest bet possible, $0.10 or $0.20, and normally avoid slots with a minimum bet above $0.20.

Playing with minimal is a good choice to plaing for fun, because when we lose it, it doesn't matter. I still remember when I told @mu_enrico when I lost IDR 6m in a week, I was laughed at by him, because he had reminded me before, play for fun, deposit USD 20 for a week, so when you lose it doesn't hurt your finances. But, I can't control, even whenever I play, I can't stop. After 2 months playing slots, Instead of playing with the smallest bet, I often make a bet $ 0.8 lol. so IDR1m deposits often run out in 1 hour or less. when I remember that , I want to laugh, how ambitious I was to find a win and forget about the amount of money I lost. Cheesy

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Quote from: masulum on June 21, 2023, 06:04:19 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on June 21, 2023, 05:20:44 AM

Today after reading your post I tried to play Big Bass Splash by Pragmatic again, and my aim was getting 3 scatters and see what it gives me. I did hit 3 scatters pretty soon, after like 5-6 spins, but in the end I was a bit disappointed by the results. I won $2.40 with my 10 free spins, and although it wasn't that bad, considering that the base bet was just $0.20, I must say I was expecting something better. (Unfortunately images from imgur aren't showing on bitcointalk and talkimg can’t be reached right now, so although I did make screenshots, I can't show them).

Yes, that's the most annoying side when getting free spins. many of us had high expectations when we managed to get free spins, unfortunately when it come, we only got not connected symbols. Even if 1 or 2 is connected, unfortunately only pays back less than $10 in total for a base bet under $0.5. to bet more, maybe you can get more than $10, but to reach freespins, you can spend more than 100x spins. However, this is part of the game, I have even earned $ 0 from free spins not from bonus buys. Tongue

Yeah, but when you bet more, you lose more in the long run, and even though I'd win $12 instead of $2.40 if I bet $1 instead of $0.20, I'd spend 5 times more before hitting those 3 scatters. And since, as you rightly said, it can take more 100 spins before reaching, it can lead to substantial losses. That's why I'm trying to play slots with a lowest bet possible, $0.10 or $0.20, and normally avoid slots with a minimum bet above $0.20.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 26, 2023, 07:17:43 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on June 26, 2023, 04:56:34 AM

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5x maxwin in a week? that's amazing, that's crazy, I don't think anyone can get maxwin up to 5x in a week like you guys. I once had 2x maxwin on buffalo megaways, and after that, just like you, I had a lot to lose. I never been given a profit of more than 500x.

It was the best week in my gambling history, I did not even expect to experience it. After the first max win, I played the game again and again both with normal spins and buy bonus. However all my 5x max win were from buy bonus, my best multiplier in this game with normal spins was around 2,000x only if I remember it correctly. Buffalo King megaways is also good game because the chance to hit max win is available in every spins of the bonus round but it requires more than 2 wild multipliers the reels to make it big total multiplier.

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