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Quote from: Bitinity on July 02, 2023, 02:50:40 AM

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But if what is used to broadcast on YouTube is indeed an official account, it is impossible because they can get big wins very often, even after just a few minutes, they already have the umpteenth big win.
If all of these streamers use official accounts as well as personal money to play every day, I'm sure the casino will definitely feel at a loss because of the multiple wins in just one day.
Have you not thought about it until now?
One of my guidelines is not to believe anyone and anything that is shown in a live broadcast of a gambling game session on YouTube.

Those people make their money from YouTube ads.

They simply play all the time and keep recording until they get a win, and then upload that as their win.

They won't upload all the times they lost at the games because no one wants to watch that.

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Quote from: komisariatku on July 02, 2023, 12:29:49 AM

But if what is used to broadcast on YouTube is indeed an official account, it is impossible because they can get big wins very often, even after just a few minutes, they already have the umpteenth big win.
If all of these streamers use official accounts as well as personal money to play every day, I'm sure the casino will definitely feel at a loss because of the multiple wins in just one day.
Have you not thought about it until now?
One of my guidelines is not to believe anyone and anything that is shown in a live broadcast of a gambling game session on YouTube.

How if there are streamers who won nothing and get huge loss many times? Will you think the same that they are also streamers with account that designed to always lose? lol. What you need to understand is that what you watch in the stream is not fully what is happening (behind the scene). If you watch many streamers win big amount multiple times, it is reasonable as they can simply just show the winning time only but they dont show the losing time because it is how to attract viewers. It will be very rare to see streamers show their losing moment because the main purpose of paid streamers is to promote the casino so they need to show great moment only.

What they lose is not from their own pocket, they are funded by casino management. Logically, they only get a portion of the total winnings and not all amount is supposed to be paid to the streamer. I understand the risks and the potential balance burst while hunting slot bonuses but it is not the risks as same regular users. I have a few theories that support the casinos can adjust the RTP on specific users and this is surely streamer accounts.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 01, 2023, 04:30:36 PM

You were lucky you were offered sponsorship by the casino itself. There are lots of streamers that are self funded if not being sponsored by other party other than the casino. These streamers spend lotts of money creating video content for their viewers they even lost lots of money along the process. I wonder what made you refused the offer of the casino.

I refused because I wasn't ready for the risk. In my country gambling is illegal. I don't want myself to be exposed to the media and it will hurt myself.

I see, that could have been a good opportunity streaming slots game and getting the percentage of the winnings. As far as I know sponsored streamer either got a percentage of the winnings or paid according to contract with the casino.

Quote from: komisariatku on July 02, 2023, 12:29:49 AM

For streamers on YouTube, most of them use fake money and are sponsored by gambling sites. Maybe they deposited to create the first content, but if they already have 2 - 5k subscribers, surely many gambling sites will want to sponsor them and give them fake money to gamble. I don't know how much these gamblers pay, but it looks like quite a lot

Yeah, I watch lots of streamers and some of them admit that they were sponsored but some of those sponsored streamers goes out of their way and use even their own money to try their luck and post videos that got a good result.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 30, 2023, 01:06:58 PM

I really addicted to these : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sy_yUnznbI

Did anyone in here have experience playing MONSTER SUPERLANCHE? based the game mechanism seem like the volatility of these slot is not really high could be on "High" category not "Very-High".

I watch a ton of these slot, but still not tried yet (waiting 15 Jully first for my payment).

I played it a lot in the early stage after Pragmatic launched it this year (January IIRC) but I had no luck with this game even after so many buy bonus as well as thousands of normal spins.
This game is fun but in my experience it was really hard to collect open the multiplier tab, even if there were times when I could collect some multipliers but the total were small (10-20x only) and the winning symbol were just low paying symbol so it did not give me good win.
Perhaps you will have different luck once you try it, so dont forget to share your experience in this game later, hope it will be a max win. Wink

If you only got 10x to 20x multipliers that sucks if you are basing the multiplier on the base spin but if the multiplier is base on the bonus buy amount then that is huge. @ryzaadit, I wish your session on that slots will be great hoping to see you post 1000x+ multiplier win.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 30, 2023, 01:06:58 PM

I really addicted to these : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sy_yUnznbI

Did anyone in here have experience playing MONSTER SUPERLANCHE? based the game mechanism seem like the volatility of these slot is not really high could be on "High" category not "Very-High".

I watch a ton of these slot, but still not tried yet (waiting 15 Jully first for my payment).

I played it a lot in the early stage after Pragmatic launched it this year (January IIRC) but I had no luck with this game even after so many buy bonus as well as thousands of normal spins.
This game is fun but in my experience it was really hard to collect open the multiplier tab, even if there were times when I could collect some multipliers but the total were small (10-20x only) and the winning symbol were just low paying symbol so it did not give me good win.
Perhaps you will have different luck once you try it, so dont forget to share your experience in this game later, hope it will be a max win. Wink

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Quote from: Bitinity on June 26, 2023, 03:56:34 AM

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to be honest, for some reason maybe I played too many slot games until I got bored and even though there are many new types of games that are always released by Pragmatic, it doesn't make me interested in continuing to bet on slot games like before. on the one hand, I don't know if this is just my bad feeling or it's true that after many kinds of new games are released by pragmatists, old games like Gates Of Olympus, Starlight Princess, Sweet Bonanza are getting more and more difficult to get bigger multipliers. but the newly released game has a maxwin number of more than 5000x but it's hard to get maxwin but it's rather easy to get 500x - 1000x.

Quote from: seleme on June 26, 2023, 04:05:29 PM

Wow, incredible lucky shot on Gates!
This slot has been the worst choice for bonus buys for me, it doesn't hit over 50x multipliers anyways.
Congrats and don't go back to Gates for obvious reason.

it was my lucky day. it's normal if you experience this bad thing because I just didn't say how much I lost before getting maxwin Roll Eyes

Well, at least I can enjoy a drink with my family instead of returning it to grandpa Cheesy

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 01, 2023, 04:30:36 PM

But if what is used to broadcast on YouTube is indeed an official account, it is impossible because they can get big wins very often, even after just a few minutes, they already have the umpteenth big win.
If all of these streamers use official accounts as well as personal money to play every day, I'm sure the casino will definitely feel at a loss because of the multiple wins in just one day.
Have you not thought about it until now?
One of my guidelines is not to believe anyone and anything that is shown in a live broadcast of a gambling game session on YouTube.

How if there are streamers who won nothing and get huge loss many times? Will you think the same that they are also streamers with account that designed to always lose? lol. What you need to understand is that what you watch in the stream is not fully what is happening (behind the scene). If you watch many streamers win big amount multiple times, it is reasonable as they can simply just show the winning time only but they dont show the losing time because it is how to attract viewers. It will be very rare to see streamers show their losing moment because the main purpose of paid streamers is to promote the casino so they need to show great moment only.

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You were lucky you were offered sponsorship by the casino itself. There are lots of streamers that are self funded if not being sponsored by other party other than the casino. These streamers spend lotts of money creating video content for their viewers they even lost lots of money along the process. I wonder what made you refused the offer of the casino.

I refused because I wasn't ready for the risk. In my country gambling is illegal. I don't want myself to be exposed to the media and it will hurt myself.

For streamers on YouTube, most of them use fake money and are sponsored by gambling sites. Maybe they deposited to create the first content, but if they already have 2 - 5k subscribers, surely many gambling sites will want to sponsor them and give them fake money to gamble. I don't know how much these gamblers pay, but it looks like quite a lot

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Quote from: mu_enrico on July 01, 2023, 09:32:43 PM

But if what is used to broadcast on YouTube is indeed an official account, it is impossible because they can get big wins very often, even after just a few minutes, they already have the umpteenth big win.
If all of these streamers use official accounts as well as personal money to play every day, I'm sure the casino will definitely feel at a loss because of the multiple wins in just one day.
Have you not thought about it until now?
One of my guidelines is not to believe anyone and anything that is shown in a live broadcast of a gambling game session on YouTube.

It's been said multiple times that they (many of them, not all) played with a dummy (fake) balance, but the game used is still the same for everyone. They can get multiple big wins in a session because often they play with more than 1 tab, I've seen some run 4 games in the background and keep grinding without minding the balance. Once scatter is triggered, they will switch it to the main window and host it.

You can try the same way with "fun play" aka using demo games. Open multiple games and use auto spin, and you'll find lots of action will happen. BUT, it's not guaranteed that you will make profits. Something that these streamers won't bother thinking about since they use fake balance anyway.

Me and some of my friends have used this method not only 4 tabs even 8 tabs we do it to pursue the contest, maybe you know the contest I mean yeah it's Betcoin.ag, participants must play more even reaching 200k spins maybe you also know who the winner Grin

honestly when using this method we rarely get profit except from a contest prize. Indeed everyone has a different luck so we can equate it, I also participated in the duelbits contest well here I make more often profit because the target is the highest multiplier, so I play 3 tabs and almost always succeed.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 30, 2023, 11:36:55 PM

But if what is used to broadcast on YouTube is indeed an official account, it is impossible because they can get big wins very often, even after just a few minutes, they already have the umpteenth big win.
If all of these streamers use official accounts as well as personal money to play every day, I'm sure the casino will definitely feel at a loss because of the multiple wins in just one day.
Have you not thought about it until now?
One of my guidelines is not to believe anyone and anything that is shown in a live broadcast of a gambling game session on YouTube.

It's been said multiple times that they (many of them, not all) played with a dummy (fake) balance, but the game used is still the same for everyone. They can get multiple big wins in a session because often they play with more than 1 tab, I've seen some run 4 games in the background and keep grinding without minding the balance. Once scatter is triggered, they will switch it to the main window and host it.

You can try the same way with "fun play" aka using demo games. Open multiple games and use auto spin, and you'll find lots of action will happen. BUT, it's not guaranteed that you will make profits. Something that these streamers won't bother thinking about since they use fake balance anyway.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 30, 2023, 01:11:13 PM

It can be both fake money and not real one but can also be based money sponsored by the casino as most of those streamers do point out to the casino they are playing,they tell the people to register there under their link so they can receive some commissions and as such to bring traffic to the casino.

I have personal experience of something like this. When I was still active as a blogger and article writer, I got an offer to write articles on gambling sites that had just been established, I made almost all of my articles there. After the website was deemed sufficient, I was invited to do a test slot game to see if something was wrong or not working. I get paid to do this test

When I test the slot machines, they always fill my account with $1000 of fake money. If it runs out they will refill it. Even when I asked for $10,000 they gave it, but the counterfeit money is can't be withdrawl.

After the test process was complete, I was offered to work as an influencer on YouTube, they filled in fake money when I would start creating content to upload on YouTube. But I refused this offer

You were lucky you were offered sponsorship by the casino itself. There are lots of streamers that are self funded if not being sponsored by other party other than the casino. These streamers spend lotts of money creating video content for their viewers they even lost lots of money along the process. I wonder what made you refused the offer of the casino.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 01, 2023, 12:01:48 AM

The ones you watched on youtube is basically the same as what you see in this thread. I dont understand why you can say that there is account which is designed to get maxwin, I know it is possible but I dont think it is happening because if you think so then you are judging that there is a collaboration between 3 parties (player, casino and the provider) to make fake max win. What I cant believe is not the reality of the max win, but the reality of the money. Is that real money spent by the players, is that fake money or is that real money but sponsored by the casino only.

In fact, there are quite a number of influencers who broadcast live on YouTube and earn big wins every day.
What I understand is that it is impossible for normal gamblers to be able to win large amounts every day and where does the money they use to play come from, while in every round the bet is always very high.
That's why I can't trust live gambling broadcasts on YouTube that some streamers do.

I do not deny the fact about the big wins on shared on youtube, but we cant say that they are accounts that designed for big wins. As you said previously "you dont realize how much you have spent", it applies the same for those influencers but we can say it in different terms. How many times, how many spins, how long they play. About trust, it is your own right not to trust them obviously but you cant judge them that they are designed to always get big wins.

True that, these streamers grind their way into producing a good win on slots offline and they publish the good one with enticing huge wins.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 30, 2023, 11:34:45 AM

The ones you watched on youtube is basically the same as what you see in this thread. I dont understand why you can say that there is account which is designed to get maxwin, I know it is possible but I dont think it is happening because if you think so then you are judging that there is a collaboration between 3 parties (player, casino and the provider) to make fake max win. What I cant believe is not the reality of the max win, but the reality of the money. Is that real money spent by the players, is that fake money or is that real money but sponsored by the casino only.

In fact, there are quite a number of influencers who broadcast live on YouTube and earn big wins every day.
What I understand is that it is impossible for normal gamblers to be able to win large amounts every day and where does the money they use to play come from, while in every round the bet is always very high.
That's why I can't trust live gambling broadcasts on YouTube that some streamers do.

I do not deny the fact about the big wins on shared on youtube, but we cant say that they are accounts that designed for big wins. As you said previously "you dont realize how much you have spent", it applies the same for those influencers but we can say it in different terms. How many times, how many spins, how long they play. About trust, it is your own right not to trust them obviously but you cant judge them that they are designed to always get big wins.

But if what is used to broadcast on YouTube is indeed an official account, it is impossible because they can get big wins very often, even after just a few minutes, they already have the umpteenth big win.
If all of these streamers use official accounts as well as personal money to play every day, I'm sure the casino will definitely feel at a loss because of the multiple wins in just one day.
Have you not thought about it until now?
One of my guidelines is not to believe anyone and anything that is shown in a live broadcast of a gambling game session on YouTube.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 30, 2023, 01:11:13 PM

The ones you watched on youtube is basically the same as what you see in this thread. I dont understand why you can say that there is account which is designed to get maxwin, I know it is possible but I dont think it is happening because if you think so then you are judging that there is a collaboration between 3 parties (player, casino and the provider) to make fake max win. What I cant believe is not the reality of the max win, but the reality of the money. Is that real money spent by the players, is that fake money or is that real money but sponsored by the casino only.

In fact, there are quite a number of influencers who broadcast live on YouTube and earn big wins every day.
What I understand is that it is impossible for normal gamblers to be able to win large amounts every day and where does the money they use to play come from, while in every round the bet is always very high.
That's why I can't trust live gambling broadcasts on YouTube that some streamers do.

I do not deny the fact about the big wins on shared on youtube, but we cant say that they are accounts that designed for big wins. As you said previously "you dont realize how much you have spent", it applies the same for those influencers but we can say it in different terms. How many times, how many spins, how long they play. About trust, it is your own right not to trust them obviously but you cant judge them that they are designed to always get big wins.

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It can be both fake money and not real one but can also be based money sponsored by the casino as most of those streamers do point out to the casino they are playing,they tell the people to register there under their link so they can receive some commissions and as such to bring traffic to the casino.

I have personal experience of something like this. When I was still active as a blogger and article writer, I got an offer to write articles on gambling sites that had just been established, I made almost all of my articles there. After the website was deemed sufficient, I was invited to do a test slot game to see if something was wrong or not working. I get paid to do this test

When I test the slot machines, they always fill my account with $1000 of fake money. If it runs out they will refill it. Even when I asked for $10,000 they gave it, but the counterfeit money is can't be withdrawl.

After the test process was complete, I was offered to work as an influencer on YouTube, they filled in fake money when I would start creating content to upload on YouTube. But I refused this offer

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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 30, 2023, 01:06:58 PM

I really addicted to these : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sy_yUnznbI

Did anyone in here have experience playing MONSTER SUPERLANCHE? based the game mechanism seem like the volatility of these slot is not really high could be on "High" category not "Very-High".

I watch a ton of these slot, but still not tried yet (waiting 15 Jully first for my payment).

I always play this slot game especially when it was first launched I tried it in several casinos but honestly I lost more often when playing it, I think sweet bonanza and gates of olympus are more friendly than this game. Additional information for this game, if you get a full screen in the game (any symbol including random symbols) then you will get extra x50 multiplier, usually to get a moment like this at least 2-3 different symbols must be active in the game like in this screenshot. So far my highest active multiplier is x160+ and total multiplier is x2000+

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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 29, 2023, 03:29:35 PM

It seems that you have misjudged the game broadcasts on YouTube because we don't know whether they use an account that has been specifically designed to get Maxwin with the aim of attracting gamblers or really use their real personal account.
Honestly, I can't just believe in the victory of the game that is broadcast on YouTube.

The ones you watched on youtube is basically the same as what you see in this thread. I dont understand why you can say that there is account which is designed to get maxwin, I know it is possible but I dont think it is happening because if you think so then you are judging that there is a collaboration between 3 parties (player, casino and the provider) to make fake max win. What I cant believe is not the reality of the max win, but the reality of the money. Is that real money spent by the players, is that fake money or is that real money but sponsored by the casino only.

It can be both fake money and not real one but can also be based money sponsored by the casino as most of those streamers do point out to the casino they are playing,they tell the people to register there under their link so they can receive some commissions and as such to bring traffic to the casino.There is also a psychological factor to it as most newbies will think let's try out this casino as who knows we can hit the max win also,so I do not exclude a casino who has the means to sponsor big streamers so they can win big in the casino and as such to bring traffic to that casino,nothing wrong here.

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I really addicted to these : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sy_yUnznbI

Did anyone in here have experience playing MONSTER SUPERLANCHE? based the game mechanism seem like the volatility of these slot is not really high could be on "High" category not "Very-High".

I watch a ton of these slot, but still not tried yet (waiting 15 Jully first for my payment).

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But doesn't mean, other people getting the same experience like you did. If your section is on the bad section, other people might have a good section compared to you. In term of gambling, while you're losing on the other hand (someone is winning). So telling the slot are giving a small or bad result on your experience are not quite true because to see the RTP you need million of spin and a lot bonus section. You cannot find it, with just a small spin & small bonus section.

However, gambling are to be designed (house always win). So, always more expect to lose comparing win to give at least you're not hoping to much for winning.

Yes, indeed not all gamblers have experience and luck like me, but at least I can see quite a lot of gamblers who lose more often than win in slot games.
I also admit that there are still many gamblers here who have won big wins several times but more have also lost their money without winning.

I've always understood that the house is designed to always win and that's why I can now have limits so I don't lose too much.

Quote from: mu_enrico on June 30, 2023, 04:46:32 AM

It seems that you have misjudged the game broadcasts on YouTube because we don't know whether they use an account that has been specifically designed to get Maxwin with the aim of attracting gamblers or really use their real personal account.
Honestly, I can't just believe in the victory of the game that is broadcast on YouTube.

The ones you watched on youtube is basically the same as what you see in this thread. I dont understand why you can say that there is account which is designed to get maxwin, I know it is possible but I dont think it is happening because if you think so then you are judging that there is a collaboration between 3 parties (player, casino and the provider) to make fake max win. What I cant believe is not the reality of the max win, but the reality of the money. Is that real money spent by the players, is that fake money or is that real money but sponsored by the casino only.

In fact, there are quite a number of influencers who broadcast live on YouTube and earn big wins every day.
What I understand is that it is impossible for normal gamblers to be able to win large amounts every day and where does the money they use to play come from, while in every round the bet is always very high.
That's why I can't trust live gambling broadcasts on YouTube that some streamers do.

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And then you deposit again since you haven't had enough of playing session Grin

That is certain when the play session is not enough and the desire to get a very big victory, in the end we re-deposit the balance for the account and so on will happen repeatedly. That's the slot game makes us comfortable in playing and will continue to give hope for victory, but in the end we will experience the same fate and remain as people who are harmed because they lose the bet.

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Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2023, 05:34:47 AM

when I lost IDR 6m in a week, I was laughed at by him, because he had reminded me before, play for fun, deposit USD 20 for a week, so when you lose it doesn't hurt your finances. But, I can't control, even whenever I play, I can't stop.

-snip- PS: I've been bullied by my wife when I lost big on a US election bet. The damage lasted for years since it become the best-laughing material in group hangouts with friends and families Grin

Must be careful when the child's mother has begun to intimidate let alone protest and do not let when returning home you have to sleep on the living room sofa Grin

. Always unpleasant be a laughing stock by friends in the hangout and that is really annoying.

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Quote from: lizarder on June 29, 2023, 11:49:45 AM

Slot habits do have the same pattern and when a big win has been won and not withdrawn it will result in defeat in the next round. An important lesson that I got from several incidents, when we get a big win in a slot, it's best to withdraw it first and leave the rest in the account to play next.

And then you deposit again since you haven't had enough of playing session Grin

Quote from: komisariatku on June 28, 2023, 10:19:28 AM

Would you laugh more if someone deposited IDR 800k and got a jackpot of IDR 13 million. But big wins don't get withdrawn and lose again on the same slot machine. The next day the person deposited again, until a week later it didn't feel like he had deposited up to IDR 15 million. It was a very bad experience

It's so common in slots. When you got the sweet taste of winning, you'll crave more.

Anyway, as usual, what I find "the best" way is to stick to your schedule and budget. For example, once a week, and <5% of your monthly income should be OK. Let's say you deposited $50 and then you won $500, withdraw $450 and play the $50 till you are satisfied. Play again next week or according to your schedule.

Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2023, 05:34:47 AM

when I lost IDR 6m in a week, I was laughed at by him, because he had reminded me before, play for fun, deposit USD 20 for a week, so when you lose it doesn't hurt your finances. But, I can't control, even whenever I play, I can't stop.

I honestly feel bad for you, but I chose to laugh at it since I thought you'll realize your mistake (aka stupidity) that way because many of us have that experience when we start our gambling journey. We were stupid and laughable at the same time Grin

Simply don't do it again or you'll become a meme material. Search for "korban slot" (en: slots victim) on youtube and you'll find many nasty stories.

PS: I've been bullied by my wife when I lost big on a US election bet. The damage lasted for years since it become the best-laughing material in group hangouts with friends and families Grin

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