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Quote from: Bitinity on December 25, 2022, 02:33:48 AM

I'm not really sure if it is already released publicly or not but I saw it in Bitcasino live rtp page and it is tagged as new game there. I tried to login my bitcasino account to find the game but unfortunately I cant find it, I have no idea why it is not available see the game again in the game list as well as in the live rtp page. If it is a fan-made artwork, I dont think bitcasino will list it in their live rtp page few days ago. Here is the proof that I found it in bitcasino live rtp page:

I can find some youtube videos about this game as well as some article about this Gates of Gatot Kaca https://www.demoslot.com/gates-of-gatot-kaca-slot.html

I tried the demo game and the sound effect is quite annoying, I don't know if I am the only one thinking that way. The game animation isn't as smooth as the original Gate of Olympus and the graphical presentation isn't that attracting too. I don't know the reason why Pragmatic Play loves replicating their games with just some graphic modification. are they running out of idea on a slot games?

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 23, 2022, 11:38:38 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on December 23, 2022, 01:23:56 AM

they have just released Gates of Gatotkaca

Seriously, where? I can't find the mentioned slots on Pragmatic Play's official website, and it's not currently planned for upcoming releases as well...
Probably it's just a fan-made artwork?

I'm not really sure if it is already released publicly or not but I saw it in Bitcasino live rtp page and it is tagged as new game there. I tried to login my bitcasino account to find the game but unfortunately I cant find it, I have no idea why it is not available see the game again in the game list as well as in the live rtp page. If it is a fan-made artwork, I dont think bitcasino will list it in their live rtp page few days ago. Here is the proof that I found it in bitcasino live rtp page:

I can find some youtube videos about this game as well as some article about this Gates of Gatot Kaca https://www.demoslot.com/gates-of-gatot-kaca-slot.html

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 23, 2022, 01:23:56 AM

There is a new member in the family of Gates of Olympus. After the success of Gates of Olympus, Pragmatic released Starlight Princes, some time ago they also released Starlight Christmas and recently they have just released Gates of Gatotkaca. Indonesian gamblers must be very familiar with this name "Gatotkaca", one of puppet characters that very popular because of his strength, he is also one character in Mobile Legend game if I'm not mistaken since I'm not Mobile Legend gamer. Probably Pragmatic released it with Gatotkaca because Gates of Olympus is very popular in Indonesia, played by so many players and I have ever seen in Tiktok where someone paint his car full of Gates of Olympus logo. Here is how the Gates of Gatotkaca looks like:

GatotKaca wth! LOL. yeah, he is one of the popular tanks of Mobile Legend because of his versatility and damage-absorbing feature that can be converted to additional damage to his attack and a rare INT-type tank. I wonder what comes to mind of the slot provider in making GatotKaca a feature of their slots? Am I seeing a Mobile legend character series of slots from Pragmatic Play?

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Very interesting reading people’s thoughts about slot machines and how to try and beat the system. I’m sure there must be some merit to things being discussed but if it were possible to beat the house I think it would be more well known. The truth is that slots are controlled by the house and they can all be set at different payout levels. In the end though, the simple truth is that the house always wins.

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 23, 2022, 01:23:56 AM

they have just released Gates of Gatotkaca

Seriously, where? I can't find the mentioned slots on Pragmatic Play's official website, and it's not currently planned for upcoming releases as well...
Probably it's just a fan-made artwork?

But I did try Starlight Christmas, and it's not that good... The music is "forced" and the scatter symbol is strange. But yeah, It can be an alternative if you are bored with Gates of Olympus/Starlight Princess. I only hoped that they rework the art more seriously.

Quote from: ryzaadit on December 23, 2022, 02:52:25 PM

Our people already brave play slot in public

Yea, the game resonated with the people. It won't be a problem if they have the "slots knowledge."
We should educate more about RTP and casinos' reputations so that many won't fall victim to scammers.

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 23, 2022, 01:23:56 AM

-SNIP-

Lol, fuck me dude ~XD.

This mean, we can prove the increase user who are playing "Slot" from "Indonesia" because the last few years especially (1-2 years) the promoted of gambling in Indonesia is getting crazy. Our people already brave play slot in public, in other side feel sad.

As you know, Gambling Addiction is gonna increase ~XD

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There is a new member in the family of Gates of Olympus. After the success of Gates of Olympus, Pragmatic released Starlight Princes, some time ago they also released Starlight Christmas and recently they have just released Gates of Gatotkaca. Indonesian gamblers must be very familiar with this name "Gatotkaca", one of puppet characters that very popular because of his strength, he is also one character in Mobile Legend game if I'm not mistaken since I'm not Mobile Legend gamer. Probably Pragmatic released it with Gatotkaca because Gates of Olympus is very popular in Indonesia, played by so many players and I have ever seen in Tiktok where someone paint his car full of Gates of Olympus logo. Here is how the Gates of Gatotkaca looks like:

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Quote from: Wapfika on December 09, 2022, 04:04:23 AM

I’m curious if there’s a slot provider that use an open source code to verifying if they are offering probably fair game.

Yes there is at least one provider namely Bgaming, you can check it on the other thread by mu_enrico for the provably fair slot games.

Quote from: lionheart78 on December 10, 2022, 09:53:00 AM

Just kidding anyway, this one has a high live RTP of 103.46% and yet six wilds failed to hit the 42 symbols in order to get to the Other World round. Such a lucky day.

Be careful when you are looking at the live RTP, it can be a huge RTP (even hundreds percent) but you need to make sure that you play it on the right time.
What I mean in the right time is that the live RTP is still on moving up moment, because if you see a huge RTP but it is on the moving down moment then high likely your result will not be good.

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 08, 2022, 07:18:28 PM

Quote from: swogerino on December 08, 2022, 09:25:53 AM

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck Grin

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Even if you did not get better result after you wrote your accusation, you should never accuse something without any valid proof as it is called by baseless accusation. I would even say that you had funny accusation because you accuse Play n Go as corrupted because some others people win while some others lose while playing Play n Go, isn't it something very normal in gambling? Grin

It sounds like that you were just so jealous because some other players won but you lose, and your jealousy lead you into more negative thinking for the provider.

Speaking of Play N' Go I had a very lucky streak today @Tome of Madness, see the image below:

So lucky, it is seldom to see such a layout of the symbols, 5 books, and 1 wild didn't hit any LOL. Play 'N Go is really corrupt dude! Grin

! How the hell did that 6 wilds don't hit anything? LOL. Just kidding anyway, this one has a high live RTP of 103.46% and yet six wilds failed to hit the 42 symbols in order to get to the Other World round. Such a lucky day.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 09, 2022, 03:15:39 AM

IMO it's also a gambling fallacy when you see a 500x multiplier drop on Olympus/Starlight and think that "This is it!" "It's happening!" etc., when in reality I often got shitty results from this kind of tumble. The code isn't "rigged" in the sense that this max-win event is predictable, even at the free spin with multiple 500x+ multipliers.

From my perspective, they just have a bad code comparing the competitor just like rigged ~XD.

However, another reason why they have a bad code compared to other competitors it's. A situation from Youtuber who got Max-Win on Fruity Party on normal spin but the required 3 hours to finish that because he keeps getting the same 5 Fruit over & over again. I think you already know this right.

IMO, that's a weird situation.

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 08, 2022, 07:18:28 PM

Quote from: swogerino on December 08, 2022, 09:25:53 AM

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck Grin

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Even if you did not get better result after you wrote your accusation, you should never accuse something without any valid proof as it is called by baseless accusation. I would even say that you had funny accusation because you accuse Play n Go as corrupted because some others people win while some others lose while playing Play n Go, isn't it something very normal in gambling? Grin

It sounds like that you were just so jealous because some other players won but you lose, and your jealousy lead you into more negative thinking for the provider.

Is there any possible accusation on slot that can be backed by solid proof? No matter how rigged the slot based on the actual result. We can still accused them for anything because they will just the RTP as an excused for the low winning ratio. Slots don’t disclosed there code that’s why only trust is makes provider reputable.

I’m curious if there’s a slot provider that use an open source code to verifying if they are offering probably fair game.

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 08, 2022, 07:18:28 PM

Quote from: swogerino on December 08, 2022, 09:25:53 AM

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck Grin

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Even if you did not get better result after you wrote your accusation, you should never accuse something without any valid proof as it is called by baseless accusation. I would even say that you had funny accusation because you accuse Play n Go as corrupted because some others people win while some others lose while playing Play n Go, isn't it something very normal in gambling? Grin

It sounds like that you were just so jealous because some other players won but you lose, and your jealousy lead you into more negative thinking for the provider.

LMAO, that's why no casino has good reviews on reviews platforms, it is mostly filled with butthurt players Grin

When everything is good (translated as a win), the game is fair, and the casino is legit...
When everything is bad, people then scream "scam, scam!"

Quote from: ryzaadit on December 08, 2022, 09:13:59 AM

In-case of "Sweet-bonanza" there is no single proof, someone can reach the max-win. Probaly from my perspective can't be design to get the max win, we all know most of pragmatic play game 90% have rigged code (Like, easy pattern if we get max win or no).

IMO it's also a gambling fallacy when you see a 500x multiplier drop on Olympus/Starlight and think that "This is it!" "It's happening!" etc., when in reality I often got shitty results from this kind of tumble. The code isn't "rigged" in the sense that this max-win event is predictable, even at the free spin with multiple 500x+ multipliers. Ideally, the highest recorded multiplier came from the simulation, so if they say 20,000x is the max win, then it is... (if you trust the provider). The problem is, the higher the max win, the rarer it become... It can happen one in x years (if people still play the game), so if the game is not popular then we won't see the max win.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 08, 2022, 09:25:53 AM

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck Grin

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Even if you did not get better result after you wrote your accusation, you should never accuse something without any valid proof as it is called by baseless accusation. I would even say that you had funny accusation because you accuse Play n Go as corrupted because some others people win while some others lose while playing Play n Go, isn't it something very normal in gambling? Grin

It sounds like that you were just so jealous because some other players won but you lose, and your jealousy lead you into more negative thinking for the provider.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 04, 2022, 08:04:30 PM

That's the problem for centralized 3rd party slots. There's nothing we can do except trust the provider that they are fair. It's difficult to get proof of this "corruption" as well since you don't know if the result is rigged, or you just have bad luck. I personally didn't feel they cheated based on my results, I even mostly won from PnG title compared to the shitty Pragmatic Play in the last 60 days. I play mostly:
- Perfect Gems
- Frozen Gems
- Tome of Madness

I tried this three games, my experience is that Tome of Madness is great, often got to bonus part with just a few spins at the beginning but as the game progresses, lots of dead spin and baiting happens. Just like I missed 1 symbols of 42 symbols needed (with 3 or more books on the screen) to get to the Other World free round (before the Mega Wild Cthulhu) and while on the Other World free round, the book keep on landing on the same space. But still the overall experience of Tome of Madness is great just don't stick with the game too long or it will end up draining your balance.

I have not got any good experience with Perfect Gems and Frozen gems. It rarely tumbles and often times in Frozen Gems activitating the reel will often times give us unnecessary symbols but if they RTP they pay good.

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Quote from: Strongkored on December 08, 2022, 05:40:25 AM

Quote from: swogerino on December 05, 2022, 02:42:02 AM

I don't know what to say about the currency change but most likely I am going to try it as soon as the World Cup finishes because I am getting only wins so far by betting in this event so not really playing slots up until when this events end or maybe just small amount to play slots,not my 100-200 dollars which is my usual amount weekly.

I haven't even tried it because I usually go straight to the basic settings from the casino, namely USD, maybe I'll try it later because today it didn't produce anything after playing big bass blizzard Christmast catch at stake casino, I only like the graphics of this slot but don't like the results I get because I don't get a multiplier greater than 90x after playing some time.

Some people prefer then use of other currencies beside from.yhe USD because its more convenient to them to make a cash out with the lower transaction fees which is very prefer too at the same time but aside from that in my perspective it's easier to navigate the amount of bet used to so it's calculated how.much dollars I.will spend in playing slot games. $500 is enough for me to play even though I'm rarely playing so having a lot more chance to get more profit than my capital.

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I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck Grin

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 03, 2022, 07:02:34 PM

The question is, how hard to win 15,000x in this new game? Will it be something like "impossible" to reach like Sweet Bonanza or it will have higher chance to win the max win like other games with 5,000x max win?

In-case of "Sweet-bonanza" there is no single proof, someone can reach the max-win. Probaly from my perspective can't be design to get the max win, we all know most of pragmatic play game 90% have rigged code (Like, easy pattern if we get max win or no).

However, If you looking a slot from Pragmatic Play who can be reached maximum win more than 5,000x. You should tried to play and see "Emerald King Rainbow", it's already being tested with everyone on youtube as well.

There has some proof, we can reached maximum win 20,000x multiplier.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 05, 2022, 02:42:02 AM

I don't know what to say about the currency change but most likely I am going to try it as soon as the World Cup finishes because I am getting only wins so far by betting in this event so not really playing slots up until when this events end or maybe just small amount to play slots,not my 100-200 dollars which is my usual amount weekly.

I haven't even tried it because I usually go straight to the basic settings from the casino, namely USD, maybe I'll try it later because today it didn't produce anything after playing big bass blizzard Christmast catch at stake casino, I only like the graphics of this slot but don't like the results I get because I don't get a multiplier greater than 90x after playing some time.

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The problem is it is happening in a lot of trusted casinos so it must be something with PnG provider.I know that Pragmatic gives you rare wins but at a much huge multiplier that is why I have shifted my idea to play their slots,maybe what I experience is only in slots that gives you up to x100 multiplier as I only like that kind of slots from PnG provider,I don't know what to say about the currency change but most likely I am going to try it as soon as the World Cup finishes because I am getting only wins so far by betting in this event so not really playing slots up until when this events end or maybe just small amount to play slots,not my 100-200 dollars which is my usual amount weekly.

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Quote from: seleme on December 04, 2022, 04:25:05 PM

BTW, anyone tried new enhanced RTP Pragmatic slots?
Dog Mansion or Sweet Fiesta paid me 10x b2b on bonus buys, can't get same result on regular slots usually.

No luck for me, hardly notice any difference compared to the regular RTP one.

Quote from: swogerino on December 04, 2022, 04:37:13 PM

I wanted to post a new thread about the corruption of Play n Go where in many other gambling forums they are being accused of people seeing other people playing and winning the bonus often while other people not getting it after thousand spins,this same has happened to me lately in almost every casino,I think personally they should be banned as compared to other providers they are far away now with their stupid changeable RTP.

That's the problem for centralized 3rd party slots. There's nothing we can do except trust the provider that they are fair. It's difficult to get proof of this "corruption" as well since you don't know if the result is rigged, or you just have bad luck. I personally didn't feel they cheated based on my results, I even mostly won from PnG title compared to the shitty Pragmatic Play in the last 60 days. I play mostly:
- Perfect Gems
- Frozen Gems
- Tome of Madness

Quote from: serjent05 on December 04, 2022, 06:50:11 PM

I do not know if I am the only one experienced this kind of change whenever I shifted to another currency. Often times I got lots of deadspin when spinning in USD, but I got a good result when my currency is in Euro. Then when I selected JPY, I am having a hard time getting the bonus round but when I do it pays huge. I experience this kind of thing several times already. I don't know why this thing happen since I do not have any idea how these currency changes affect the RTP of the game.

I did this trick as well, switching between currencies. What I suspect was different currencies have different "seeds" so you basically like refreshing the seeds on hash games. When you have a good "seed," you'll notice better luck. But that's unpredictable and in the end, still random.

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