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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 28, 2021, 10:59:52 AM

one of the best slot machines that I have played are in bitcasino, betfury and stake.com, there I have had good experiences, although of course I have also lost, but I have a lot of experience left.

all mentioned websites have the same slot provider source,IIRC.

Yeah, they pretty much have the same slots providers (or brand) like Pragmatic, PnG, etc., but they have different distributor such as Hub88, SoftSwiss, etc.
So switching between Bitcasino and Stake is somewhat make sense, since they have different distributor CMIIW. But switching from one SoftSwiss powered casino to other SoftSwiss powered casino is a bit strange. Still, neither will affect your odds (theoretically).

Also, if "good experience" means win (not about the site performance, usability, etc.), then eventually all casinos will become "scammer" Grin

Alright, now it is a more clear picture on my mind. Thanks for the information

We sometimes lose, sometimes win but casinos definitely never lose a single cent from the bankroll pool. It means we were scammed due to house edge and this is going to be like that, unfortunately. Only Fun mode RTP has advantage on player's side Cheesy

There is a very wise saying that we must all manage and never forget, and that is that the house will always have the advantage, no matter how many games we try in any casino, it will be like that, whether it is online or a traditional casino, the house will always have the advantage and I believe That this is something that we know before playing on any platform, however, we still take risks and play, sometimes we don't do it to beat a casino, in my case when I play slots it is for fun, to de-stress, and The money I have is totally to lose, in case I win it would be something new for me and it will be well accepted. I think that the premise of every casino starts from there and it is from us as players to mature that knowledge.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 30, 2021, 09:06:30 AM

Quote from: Danslip on December 29, 2021, 04:17:32 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 28, 2021, 10:59:52 AM

one of the best slot machines that I have played are in bitcasino, betfury and stake.com, there I have had good experiences, although of course I have also lost, but I have a lot of experience left.

all mentioned websites have the same slot provider source,IIRC.

Yeah, they pretty much have the same slots providers (or brand) like Pragmatic, PnG, etc., but they have different distributor such as Hub88, SoftSwiss, etc.
So switching between Bitcasino and Stake is somewhat make sense, since they have different distributor CMIIW. But switching from one SoftSwiss powered casino to other SoftSwiss powered casino is a bit strange. Still, neither will affect your odds (theoretically).

Also, if "good experience" means win (not about the site performance, usability, etc.), then eventually all casinos will become "scammer" Grin

Alright, now it is a more clear picture on my mind. Thanks for the information

We sometimes lose, sometimes win but casinos definitely never lose a single cent from the bankroll pool. It means we were scammed due to house edge and this is going to be like that, unfortunately. Only Fun mode RTP has advantage on player's side Cheesy

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Quote from: Danslip on December 29, 2021, 04:17:32 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 28, 2021, 10:59:52 AM

one of the best slot machines that I have played are in bitcasino, betfury and stake.com, there I have had good experiences, although of course I have also lost, but I have a lot of experience left.

all mentioned websites have the same slot provider source,IIRC.

Yeah, they pretty much have the same slots providers (or brand) like Pragmatic, PnG, etc., but they have different distributor such as Hub88, SoftSwiss, etc.
So switching between Bitcasino and Stake is somewhat make sense, since they have different distributor CMIIW. But switching from one SoftSwiss powered casino to other SoftSwiss powered casino is a bit strange. Still, neither will affect your odds (theoretically).

Also, if "good experience" means win (not about the site performance, usability, etc.), then eventually all casinos will become "scammer" Grin

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Quote from: famososMuertos on December 24, 2021, 01:40:45 AM

so the best ability to play The slots is the availability of time and money, the tricks come later.

Yes, time is important since slots is a long game. With a decent bankroll, I can spend 7-8 hours in one session. Time flows differently in a slots game so you should schedule your session wisely.

Quote from: Bitinity on December 22, 2021, 06:23:15 AM

But it is still unbelievable for me to get not even 1 single scatter in 150 spins. Never experienced such bad thing in my slot gambling journey for years. It is usual to get no free spins within 150spins, but not even single scatter? Still waiting the answer from ShowOff on which slot he experienced, even an extreme volatility slot is rare to get no single scatter within 150 spins.

Theoretically, I believe it can happen, but in reality, we rarely observe this thing. Perhaps ShowOff only exaggerates his bad luck. I think I had this no scatter session, but perhaps it was less than 100 spins. I didn't count, really. It's on games that only has scatters on line 2, 3, 4 or only on line 1 and 5.

Well in general terms, slots has a lot to do with being dependent on luck almost entirely, the strategies and everything based for the slots is difficult to apply, the tricks and everything that has to do with the game It already depends on how much the player is willing to lose, because the problem with slot machines is that many times because of the emotion, the music and the casino effect make the brain think that all the time they will win and that can become a weapon double edged.

Well to tell the truth, one of the best slot machines that I have played are in bitcasino, betfury and stake.com, there I have had good experiences, although of course I have also lost, but I have a lot of experience left.

Unfortunately, the only experience that can help is to control bankroll aka getting out while you can or managing bankroll during win/loss streaks. Can't see any other benefit, btw all mentioned websites have the same slot provider source,IIRC.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 24, 2021, 08:50:10 AM

Quote from: famososMuertos on December 24, 2021, 01:40:45 AM

so the best ability to play The slots is the availability of time and money, the tricks come later.

Yes, time is important since slots is a long game. With a decent bankroll, I can spend 7-8 hours in one session. Time flows differently in a slots game so you should schedule your session wisely.

Quote from: Bitinity on December 22, 2021, 06:23:15 AM

But it is still unbelievable for me to get not even 1 single scatter in 150 spins. Never experienced such bad thing in my slot gambling journey for years. It is usual to get no free spins within 150spins, but not even single scatter? Still waiting the answer from ShowOff on which slot he experienced, even an extreme volatility slot is rare to get no single scatter within 150 spins.

Theoretically, I believe it can happen, but in reality, we rarely observe this thing. Perhaps ShowOff only exaggerates his bad luck. I think I had this no scatter session, but perhaps it was less than 100 spins. I didn't count, really. It's on games that only has scatters on line 2, 3, 4 or only on line 1 and 5.

Well in general terms, slots has a lot to do with being dependent on luck almost entirely, the strategies and everything based for the slots is difficult to apply, the tricks and everything that has to do with the game It already depends on how much the player is willing to lose, because the problem with slot machines is that many times because of the emotion, the music and the casino effect make the brain think that all the time they will win and that can become a weapon double edged.

Well to tell the truth, one of the best slot machines that I have played are in bitcasino, betfury and stake.com, there I have had good experiences, although of course I have also lost, but I have a lot of experience left.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on December 24, 2021, 01:40:45 AM

so the best ability to play The slots is the availability of time and money, the tricks come later.

Yes, time is important since slots is a long game. With a decent bankroll, I can spend 7-8 hours in one session. Time flows differently in a slots game so you should schedule your session wisely.

Quote from: Bitinity on December 22, 2021, 06:23:15 AM

But it is still unbelievable for me to get not even 1 single scatter in 150 spins. Never experienced such bad thing in my slot gambling journey for years. It is usual to get no free spins within 150spins, but not even single scatter? Still waiting the answer from ShowOff on which slot he experienced, even an extreme volatility slot is rare to get no single scatter within 150 spins.

Theoretically, I believe it can happen, but in reality, we rarely observe this thing. Perhaps ShowOff only exaggerates his bad luck. I think I had this no scatter session, but perhaps it was less than 100 spins. I didn't count, really. It's on games that only has scatters on line 2, 3, 4 or only on line 1 and 5.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 22, 2021, 04:29:16 PM

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The truth is, I don't have much experience in slot machines, I just know that with one shot you can get everything back and get huge profits by making small bets, some people in traditional casinos play day and night at the machines, giving it and trying their luck, Some make up to more than 1000 spins and keep trying, this is something very common in slots, in fact I only use the slots to de-stress myself, and I really like the ones on bitcasino.io and stake.com, they are really a great experience.

You actually mentioned the experience you have to have, make spins.
I think what you have to have is a bankroll control and an adequate size of bets, that is basic for any casino game, so the best ability to play The slots is the availability of time and money, the tricks come later.

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Quote from: ShowOff on December 14, 2021, 11:46:45 AM

I could only last 150 spins without getting a scatter. That sucks, of course.

It doesn't matter if in 100 or 1,000 spins, you cannot get a scatter. It only matters if you get (usually) minimum three scatters. Sometimes I spent 1-2 hours in a session full of single and double scatters, but never all three scatters came out Grin

Sometimes out of nothing you will get bonus round in less than 10 spins, sometimes in 1,000 spins you'll get no bonus round, it's completely random. What you can notice is, the system almost always gives intermediary wins, whether it's 10% or 1,000% of your wager, it's completely random as well. Who knows man, maybe on your 151th spin, you'll get all five/six scatters. That's the beauty of slots Grin

The truth is, I don't have much experience in slot machines, I just know that with one shot you can get everything back and get huge profits by making small bets, some people in traditional casinos play day and night at the machines, giving it and trying their luck, Some make up to more than 1000 spins and keep trying, this is something very common in slots, in fact I only use the slots to de-stress myself, and I really like the ones on bitcasino.io and stake.com, they are really a great experience.

I don't have as much self control as you and that is why I have quit playing slots,not totally but from being a slot addict.I like the strategy with the minimum bet as a start and you progress up with much higher bet if you are lucky to win big with the minimum bet.Of course to win big with the minimum bet amount you need games that can give you bonus games with multipliers up to 1000x and those are my favorite slots.I occasionally still play slots to have some fun but as soon as I notice a continuous losing pattern I immediately quit.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 20, 2021, 07:24:45 AM

Quote from: ShowOff on December 14, 2021, 11:46:45 AM

I could only last 150 spins without getting a scatter. That sucks, of course.

It doesn't matter if in 100 or 1,000 spins, you cannot get a scatter. It only matters if you get (usually) minimum three scatters. Sometimes I spent 1-2 hours in a session full of single and double scatters, but never all three scatters came out Grin

Sometimes out of nothing you will get bonus round in less than 10 spins, sometimes in 1,000 spins you'll get no bonus round, it's completely random. What you can notice is, the system almost always gives intermediary wins, whether it's 10% or 1,000% of your wager, it's completely random as well. Who knows man, maybe on your 151th spin, you'll get all five/six scatters. That's the beauty of slots Grin

The truth is, I don't have much experience in slot machines, I just know that with one shot you can get everything back and get huge profits by making small bets, some people in traditional casinos play day and night at the machines, giving it and trying their luck, Some make up to more than 1000 spins and keep trying, this is something very common in slots, in fact I only use the slots to de-stress myself, and I really like the ones on bitcasino.io and stake.com, they are really a great experience.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 20, 2021, 07:24:45 AM

Quote from: ShowOff on December 14, 2021, 11:46:45 AM

I could only last 150 spins without getting a scatter. That sucks, of course.

It doesn't matter if in 100 or 1,000 spins, you cannot get a scatter. It only matters if you get (usually) minimum three scatters. Sometimes I spent 1-2 hours in a session full of single and double scatters, but never all three scatters came out Grin

Sometimes out of nothing you will get bonus round in less than 10 spins, sometimes in 1,000 spins you'll get no bonus round, it's completely random. What you can notice is, the system almost always gives intermediary wins, whether it's 10% or 1,000% of your wager, it's completely random as well. Who knows man, maybe on your 151th spin, you'll get all five/six scatters. That's the beauty of slots Grin

But it is still unbelievable for me to get not even 1 single scatter in 150 spins. Never experienced such bad thing in my slot gambling journey for years. It is usual to get no free spins within 150spins, but not even single scatter? Still waiting the answer from ShowOff on which slot he experienced, even an extreme volatility slot is rare to get no single scatter within 150 spins.

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Quote from: ShowOff on December 14, 2021, 11:46:45 AM

I could only last 150 spins without getting a scatter. That sucks, of course.

It doesn't matter if in 100 or 1,000 spins, you cannot get a scatter. It only matters if you get (usually) minimum three scatters. Sometimes I spent 1-2 hours in a session full of single and double scatters, but never all three scatters came out Grin

Sometimes out of nothing you will get bonus round in less than 10 spins, sometimes in 1,000 spins you'll get no bonus round, it's completely random. What you can notice is, the system almost always gives intermediary wins, whether it's 10% or 1,000% of your wager, it's completely random as well. Who knows man, maybe on your 151th spin, you'll get all five/six scatters. That's the beauty of slots Grin

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 14, 2021, 08:47:06 PM

Do you mean not even single scatter in 150 spins? Frankly I cant believe it, but it is possible although the the chance to not hit even a single scatter in 150 spins is so low. What slot you are referring to? I have never experienced such bad streak without a scatter, a scatter should be easy to come but scatters (3-5) as a requirement to get the free spins is harder.

Not even one scatter Symbole in 150 spins seems very unlucky. Not sure what the chances are up get a scatter but it's definitely higher than than in his last session. It seems that chances for getting 5 scatters is 0.000016, so very low. But the chances to get 3 scatters is much higher. Pretty sure if he would play another 150 spins he would get all the scatters he missed out previously. I not really playing so much spots lately but I tend to always get a some bonuses. Free spins are usually programmed into the games and come after a certain number of spins. For a casino having free spins for slots is a good way to keep players engaged and interested for more.

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Quote from: ShowOff on December 14, 2021, 11:46:45 AM

The last time I played the slot was in October, I could only last 150 spins without getting a scatter. That sucks, of course.

Do you mean not even single scatter in 150 spins? Frankly I cant believe it, but it is possible although the the chance to not hit even a single scatter in 150 spins is so low. What slot you are referring to? I have never experienced such bad streak without a scatter, a scatter should be easy to come but scatters (3-5) as a requirement to get the free spins is harder.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 14, 2021, 11:28:26 AM

Anyway, do you feel this year (especially in December) slots results aren't as good as last year? I feel last year is much better, but we still have like 16 days, so I might be wrong.

I haven't regularly played the slot so far and I can't remember how many times I've played it in the last year. So I can't compare them now. ha ha ha
Maybe @Roycilik can answer that for you as I know he's had a lot of luck in the slots so far. The last time I played the slot was in October, I could only last 150 spins without getting a scatter. That sucks, of course.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 14, 2021, 09:16:16 AM

I really doubt that being a veteran gambler is any kind of indicator for emotional stability.

LoL, Veteran means survived enough sh*t and still active in gambling. If someone survived bad days, sad days, you name it, it's a good indicator of stability.
Some might not survive, and I call them "fallen gamblers."

Anyway, do you feel this year (especially in December) slots results aren't as good as last year? I feel last year is much better, but we still have like 16 days, so I might be wrong.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 14, 2021, 09:16:16 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on December 10, 2021, 09:44:17 AM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on December 08, 2021, 06:48:44 PM

Chasing losses is never been a good behavior as a gambler because this would really trigger out those emotions which would lead to more mistakes.

Panjul is a veteran gambler with lots of experience, so I won't question his emotional control and stuff.

However, even veteran gamblers may not used to deal with "cold period" of slots games. It's a quite long period of slots rekt that demotivates player from playing the game (retired) or make them not patient enough to wait for the "hot period" thus they burn more money than their gambling budget. For me, I just play with my budget as usual. For sure, it's just "for fun" budget.

I really doubt that being a veteran gambler is any kind of indicator for emotional stability. What if he had a really bad day, his wife leaves him, somebody in the family/friends die, he loses his job? One bad day is all somebody need to lose control and lose a lot of money gambling. I think everybody has had moments like these or even worse. They decide to go with emotions. Its just human nature, regardless of how experienced they are.

Since I'm the one mentioned to be veteran by mu_enrico so let me tell you how I deal with gambling activity when I had a very bad day.
Luckily I'm not that stupid to do gambling when I'm in a very bad situation in my life.
I'm gambling when my emotion is stable enough or when I have nothing to worry in IRL.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 10, 2021, 09:44:17 AM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on December 08, 2021, 06:48:44 PM

Chasing losses is never been a good behavior as a gambler because this would really trigger out those emotions which would lead to more mistakes.

Panjul is a veteran gambler with lots of experience, so I won't question his emotional control and stuff.

However, even veteran gamblers may not used to deal with "cold period" of slots games. It's a quite long period of slots rekt that demotivates player from playing the game (retired) or make them not patient enough to wait for the "hot period" thus they burn more money than their gambling budget. For me, I just play with my budget as usual. For sure, it's just "for fun" budget.

I really doubt that being a veteran gambler is any kind of indicator for emotional stability. What if he had a really bad day, his wife leaves him, somebody in the family/friends die, he loses his job? One bad day is all somebody need to lose control and lose a lot of money gambling. I think everybody has had moments like these or even worse. They decide to go with emotions. Its just human nature, regardless of how experienced they are.

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Quote from: SyGambler on May 18, 2020, 08:45:04 PM

am I the only one who finds high variance slots can be much less money burner ?
kinda find that if someone plays low variance slots that has frequent low wins tends to lose more for simply not winning enough of money even with same RTP , like if you win 200x or something similar you may just keep wagering and wagering ( 200x of spin of course not bankroll Cheesy

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while in high variance slots you will either lose fast or win big at someday , and usually when someone hits big he will make a cashout instantly unlike the hits with low variance ones
so you kinda save your luck for the big hits to cashout , while with low variance players tend to play much more and wager more amount of money

probably that's why I like jammin jars and dead or alive 2 but I rarely play slots

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 10, 2021, 09:44:17 AM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on December 08, 2021, 06:48:44 PM

Chasing losses is never been a good behavior as a gambler because this would really trigger out those emotions which would lead to more mistakes.

Panjul is a veteran gambler with lots of experience, so I won't question his emotional control and stuff.

However, even veteran gamblers may not used to deal with "cold period" of slots games. It's a quite long period of slots rekt that demotivates player from playing the game (retired) or make them not patient enough to wait for the "hot period" thus they burn more money than their gambling budget. For me, I just play with my budget as usual. For sure, it's just "for fun" budget.

Pardon me? Veteran? LOL
You might be right but maybe I do not have better THEORIES about gambling than those who like to say wonderful words about gambling and its related stuff.
I cant deny that it is still hard for me to control my own emotion but as long as I'm not breaking my own limit, I do not really care about my emotion.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on December 08, 2021, 06:48:44 PM

Chasing losses is never been a good behavior as a gambler because this would really trigger out those emotions which would lead to more mistakes.

Panjul is a veteran gambler with lots of experience, so I won't question his emotional control and stuff.

However, even veteran gamblers may not used to deal with "cold period" of slots games. It's a quite long period of slots rekt that demotivates player from playing the game (retired) or make them not patient enough to wait for the "hot period" thus they burn more money than their gambling budget. For me, I just play with my budget as usual. For sure, it's just "for fun" budget.

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