Topic: Smooth VS VNL (Read 7364 times)

Or maybe, just maybe, it was because of this:
https://v.cash/forum/threads/12-month-timeline.349/page-4#post-8038

Sorry I think I did that, not smooth.

VNL (40%)

Smooth 1
Vcrash  0

Whoops. Sorry about that:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16970803

The fact that gmaxwell would even acknowledge and talk about john-connor shows that vnl dev is the real deal.
Do you think gmaxwell would even converse with Karsen or shitcoin #968 dev? I highly doubt he converses with
the hundreds of clown clone devs.

Logical fallacies. Smooth's perceived character/behavior does not invalidate his argument.

Seriously, all of the counterarguments of the OP have been logical fallacies and completely irrelevant.

He is in no position to accuse John for unethical behaviour or theft. He obviously has his own agenda(against vnl). With that in mind his judgement just can't be taken seriously.

I replied earlier that it's common knowledge. It doesn't take any special skills to write those methods. Smooth knows I'm right. I dare him to rewrite those methods. Guess what's going to happen... You'll see very similar outcome to John's.

I dont see that his competence as a developer is being questioned , more a ethical issue mabe. No need to take anything up with Bicoin as the licencing agreement is written for laments to understand.

+1

when it comes to VNL  vs smooth  VNL wins hands down. In fact there is more code written per week in VNL than Smooth has ever written.


whether or not John should post aknowledgement of Bitcoin in the wallet is between John, and those that hold the licensing of Bitcoin....
smooth has nothing to do with the licensing of Bitcoin, and his evidence should be directed towards the original coders of Bitcoin to have them review his allegations.

although I highly doubt that any of the original coders are going to come on here and make a stink about it, going public with who they are. 
so the licensing is pretty much just smoke and mirrors at this point, you need a legal body to be able to chase someone around about licensing issues.

Greeting, this evening john-connor showed up on the Bitcoin Core github with some rather aggressively ignorant minunderstandings of basic cryptographic consensus concepts: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5634#issuecomment-69481908

Having no clue who he was I looked at his github account and googled a bit and found that he is the, seemingly pseudonymous, author of "Vanillacoin".

Vanillacoin was previously discussed on this forum, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-vnl-vanillacoin-beta-pre-release-890388 but he locked the threads in order to shuffle the users (victims?) off to someplace out of the light of day-- never a good sign, (nor is his BCT newbie account, for that matter).  The "vanillacoin" software has no source code available, it is binaries only (very much not a good sign, and usually severe malware concern; and an ultimate form of centralization), there are source links but they go to a basically empty github repository. There is a whitepaper, which like the comments on github show some general software development background they show no real sign of sophisticated understanding around decenteralized systems for adversarial networks or cryptocurrencies.

I don't know anything more about it, but I figure sunlight tends to be a good disinfectant; and with the threads locked it probably wasn't fair of me to say nothing while I was privately thinking "hm, that all smells pretty fishy".  Of course, the guy was a bit rude to me and also wasted my time-- so feel free to factor that bias in however you like. I'm just reporting my impression as a regular community member. You now know what I know.

[I'm the last person to play altcoin-cops... I mostly avoid this stuff except for the rare cases that are technically interesting: The drama can sink unbounded time and usually, when it comes to the more misguided altcoin cryptography, the only sane policy seems to be "If you see something,say nothing and drink to forget": there is too much crazyness and risk of being attacked for being critical of someones latest scheme. But if it shows up in my face, I can't quite stomach saying nothing at all.]

Cheers,

+1

when it comes to VNL  vs smooth  VNL wins hands down. In fact there is more code written per week in VNL than Smooth has ever written.


whether or not John should post aknowledgement of Bitcoin in the wallet is between John, and those that hold the licensing of Bitcoin....
smooth has nothing to do with the licensing of Bitcoin, and his evidence should be directed towards the original coders of Bitcoin to have them review his allegations.

although I highly doubt that any of the original coders are going to come on here and make a stink about it, going public with who they are. 
so the licensing is pretty much just smoke and mirrors at this point, you need a legal body to be able to chase someone around about licensing issues.

VNL   400 Githup commits
vs smooth   ?.

VNL  solves every major currency problem in crypto 
vs smooth solves .... nothing

 TKO
VNL wins

Do you have, control and use other accounts

No smooth alter ego accounts, sock puppets, etc. ever exist or have ever existed. ('aeon' account that was transferred to me by the original developer does not count as that is disclosed and only used to edit the OP.)

VNL   400 Githup commits
vs smooth   ?.

VNL  solves every major currency problem in crypto 
vs smooth solves .... nothing

 TKO
VNL wins

The code in question is the only block you could fing, eh? Its just one piece of about 500.000 lines rewritten.

all just smooth alter ego accounts.

again i dont say anything about his work.

i just want him to honor the license as its is obvious he copied parts of his product (which btw is not bad - anyone does that - even big companies and closed source products)

btw thanks for bumping this thread to raise awareness of his behavior...