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smooth

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Quote from: EmilioMann on September 20, 2015, 05:18:31 PM

WOW
Vanilla is getting hot.
Suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

gmaxwell's post was from January. Mine was over a month ago. None of this has to do with anything "getting" hot or getting anything else but sure you can try to twist it to shill your favorite coin. Wouldn't expect anything less from shillmyfavcointalk.org.

smooth

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Quote from: BagHolder010 on September 20, 2015, 05:16:02 PM

This is is just full of Monero haters hating everywhere as always.

And now the usual Monero-hater suspects from Dash. Welcome.

EmilioMann

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#mitandopelomundo

WOW
Vanilla is getting hot.
Suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

solid12345

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Personally I don't care if a coin is cobbled together by a dozen children in a sweatshop if it works better and does more than all the others.

Crypto is one of the few subcultures where people get more wound up over the origins of something then the actual end use case.

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Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2015, 05:02:56 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 20, 2015, 04:57:57 PM

Quote from: proletariat on September 20, 2015, 04:20:39 PM

Connor has a lot more miles to his name in the p2p and cryptography world... more so in the p2p field years before bitcoin was invented. Try doing some research, googling and connecting the dots. The guy has been part of huge projects.

Bernie Madoff was also part of huge projects.

Didn't he (or at least his business) play a large role in inventing and developing NASDAQ? I'm not even kidding.

Accomplishments and ability have no particular negative correlation with scamming. If anything the correlation might be positive because it makes the scams more convincing.

wow you guys using the Bernie Madoff ammo in your replies eh? Shocked

.... his involvement was not in the business side of things but in the coding innovation part of things - that's what I got from google anyhow. could be wrong though, but multiple google hits pointed in that direction.....

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Quote from: john-connor on September 20, 2015, 05:01:51 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

Thank you for your support.

Smooth dares to call out people for copy pasting now? LOOOOOOOOOL....I Guess he is jealous of anyone with coding skills something not only Smooth can't comprehend but all the 30 Monero developers who can't do shit for a year and half alrdy.

This is is just full of Monero haters hating everywhere as always.

bigfryguy

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always amazed that it is the same three crusaders that show up to every FUDD thread based around competitors coins on poloniex...

bet Karma has given you guys some nasty Carpel tunnel by now.

smooth

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 20, 2015, 04:57:57 PM

Quote from: proletariat on September 20, 2015, 04:20:39 PM

Connor has a lot more miles to his name in the p2p and cryptography world... more so in the p2p field years before bitcoin was invented. Try doing some research, googling and connecting the dots. The guy has been part of huge projects.

Bernie Madoff was also part of huge projects.

Didn't he (or at least his business) play a large role in inventing and developing NASDAQ? I'm not even kidding.

Accomplishments and ability have no particular negative correlation with scamming. If anything the correlation might be positive because it makes the scams more convincing.

john-connor

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

Thank you for your support.

bigfryguy

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ok, so only devs in here so far, are smooth and ocminer...... smooth says he has no idea whether John is or is not good at what he does
ocminer says John does know what hes doing

fan boys... blah blah blah blah entertainment....

I guess that means John-Conner knows what he is doing.

useless thread, it just let us all know what we already knew.

iCEBREAKER

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: proletariat on September 20, 2015, 04:20:39 PM

Connor has a lot more miles to his name in the p2p and cryptography world... more so in the p2p field years before bitcoin was invented. Try doing some research, googling and connecting the dots. The guy has been part of huge projects.

Bernie Madoff was also part of huge projects. Ditto John Corzine and Ken Lay. Your faulty logic is intentionally misleading.

VanillaCoin is a scam based on stolen (using FOSS without attribution is theft) code. They got caught red-handed.

Gmax and smooth have done the community a great favor by busting this scam before more people are hurt by it.

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Quote from: jimlite on September 20, 2015, 04:34:37 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on September 20, 2015, 04:11:07 PM

Quote from: jimlite on September 20, 2015, 03:49:38 PM

The fact that gmaxwell would even acknowledge and talk about john-connor shows that vnl dev is the real deal.
Do you think gmaxwell would even converse with Karsen or shitcoin #968 dev? I highly doubt he converses with
the hundreds of clown clone devs.

"The fact that Michael Jordan would even acknowledge and talk about Gerald Wilkins shows that "The Jordan Stopper" is the real deal. Do you think Jordan would even converse with Allan Houston or bench player #53? I highly doubt he converses with the hundreds of other clown players." --stuff idiot fan says

No, but I play basketball, and there is no way in hell Michael Jordan would talk to me about basketball strategy. And I used to code a bit, but there is no way in hell gmaxwell or smooth are going to debate code with me. I am insignificant in basketball or coding, john connor is not (well maybe in basketball). All I am saying is obviously if gmaxwell and smooth find points to debate with john connor, then VNL is a worthy coin. Whether it is the ZeroTime instant transfers without master nodes, security, or super peer code, there are real improvements or innovations that they see and that bitcoin or other alts lack.

Get your comparisons straight:

--dev equals dev

--professional bb player equals professional bb player

--random fan boy on bct does not equal dev anymore than a guy playing at a YMCA equals a professional bb player.

Like a professional bb player who gets some undeserved hype, a dev (especially a dev who seeks out the confrontation) who isn't what he claims deserves to be put in his place by his betters.

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I've been coding the RPC side of the coin with John "on-the-fly" in IRC .. I was coding the pools side, while he integrated the calls into the daemon.

We did that over several hours/days and also latter anti-ddos mechanisms and other stuff were/was integrated while "talking" in IRC to each other, he's certainly no "copy&paste" coder like many, many others, I can vouch for his skills, I've worked with him together several times already, he knows what he's doing.

smooth

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Quote from: jimlite on September 20, 2015, 04:34:37 PM

All I am saying is obviously if gmaxwell and smooth find points to debate with john connor

I can't speak for gmaxwell but I'm not debating anything with j-c. I saw someone else's allegations (not gmaxwell's, someone else's on an alt thread) of misappropriation of the code, looked into it and found it to be a correct accusation. That is the sole extent of my "involvement" here.

jimlite

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Quote from: generalizethis on September 20, 2015, 04:11:07 PM

Quote from: jimlite on September 20, 2015, 03:49:38 PM

The fact that gmaxwell would even acknowledge and talk about john-connor shows that vnl dev is the real deal.
Do you think gmaxwell would even converse with Karsen or shitcoin #968 dev? I highly doubt he converses with
the hundreds of clown clone devs.

"The fact that Michael Jordan would even acknowledge and talk about Gerald Wilkins shows that "The Jordan Stopper" is the real deal. Do you think Jordan would even converse with Allan Houston or bench player #53? I highly doubt he converses with the hundreds of other clown players." --stuff idiot fan says

No, but I play basketball, and there is no way in hell Michael Jordan would talk to me about basketball strategy. And I used to code a bit, but there is no way in hell gmaxwell or smooth are going to debate code with me. I am insignificant in basketball or coding, john connor is not (well maybe in basketball). All I am saying is obviously if gmaxwell and smooth find points to debate with john connor, then VNL is a worthy coin. Whether it is the ZeroTime instant transfers without master nodes, security, or super peer code, there are real improvements or innovations that they see and that bitcoin or other alts lack.

proletariat

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Connor has a lot more miles to his name in the p2p and cryptography world... more so in the p2p field years before bitcoin was invented. Try doing some research, googling and connecting the dots. The guy has been part of huge projects.

YAdaminer

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What desperation is required to launch a new haters thread?

smooth

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Quote from: bigfryguy on September 20, 2015, 03:41:16 PM

why doesnt he post a link of side by side code so everyone can see what he is talking about?

That was done. Follow the reference link in j-c's trust rating, that's what it's for (duh)

BTW, I have no opinion on the merits of VNL's added features, etc. nor on his skills as a coder, so all those comments about how great the features are or how great a coder he is are entirely non-responsive on the point that he ripped off Bitcoin's code, stripped out the attributions (which are required by the original license) and misrepresented it as written entirely from scratch.

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Quote from: generalizethis on September 20, 2015, 04:11:07 PM

Quote from: jimlite on September 20, 2015, 03:49:38 PM

The fact that gmaxwell would even acknowledge and talk about john-connor shows that vnl dev is the real deal.
Do you think gmaxwell would even converse with Karsen or shitcoin #968 dev? I highly doubt he converses with
the hundreds of clown clone devs.

"The fact that Michael Jordan would even acknowledge and talk about Gerald Wilkins shows that "The Jordan Stopper" is the real deal. Do you think Jordan would even converse with Allan Houston or bench player #53? I highly doubt he converses with the hundreds of other clown players." --stuff idiot fan says

Address these points:

Vanillacoin is the ONLY coin that:
- Has random ports and encrypted connections so your ISP won't notice anything unusual while monitoring your ports. No other coin does this
- Has full, staking mobile wallets that allow you to move your wallet.dat to your PC from your Android and iOS wallets. No other coin does this
- Requires only 1 confirmation on Poloniex (other than BTC, which also requires 1 confirmation)
- Only coin to have near-instant 0 confirmation transactions without master nodes. No other coin has done this

None of that is fraud and all of that is testable.

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ohhh I have seen it all... This is the textbook situation when people at the top positions in the community(or company) are trying to destroy someone who can threaten their authority and who achieved something that they were unable to do.

Even if some part of the one insignificant method is rewritten or looks similar it doesn't matter. Every programmer understands that sometimes it just doesn't make sense to try to reinvent the wheel. If someone claims that John can't code, or doesn't have the knowledge he is just useful idiot. John did something that no one else could. He is the one who won and Smooth is the loser.

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