Topic: Smooth VS VNL - page 4. (Read 7364 times)

WheatClove

There is just no point in writing this method in any other way. What would be your code to achieve this desirable functionality? I remember apple's patent war, when they tried to patent slide to unlock.
That's the court's verdict: "This user-friendly display was already suggested by the state of the art."

It is a POW/POS hybrid crypto-currency, obviously it is based on already existing ideas/solutions, but it has been redesigned in C++ and has been complemented with several unique features. Vanillacoin is way more advanced than bitcoin or it's forks in the way it handles the network and transactions.

Yeah, you will find similarities and you will also find that it uses blockchain files and a wallet.dat, but please review the source code for yourself and tell me that it's anything like Bitcoin afterwards.

I can write here that you are a liar, my opinion has factual merit, because you are lying that John stole bitcoin's code. You are wrong, your arguments are not strong and valid. Anyone can write whatever he wants. It really takes a lot more to prove that someone stole code than stupid post on bitcointalk... You seem to not understand that simple fact.

The MIT license is a copyright framework for open source software, much like the GNU GPL. You don't have to be a patent lawyer to put this shit in your software in order to communicate the terms in which your software can be used, copied, and modified.

What I am doing? I'm arguing my opinion which has factual merit. I don't need to report any activity to any authority in order for my arguments to be valid and strong.

Yeaah, now legality doesn't matter. So what matters more? If he commited a fraud(fraud is illegal, but it doesn't matter?) as you claim, you should report it. If my competitors would stole intellectual property and took my market share I would fight against it. But not by hanging a large banner "company x is stealing intellectual property" on my own company's headquarters like xmr and other devs are doing(you can go to jail for something like this). It's plain stupid, trolling, or unfair competition what you are doing. You can't prove shit, but you are still attacking.


Someone is stealing money from the bank, I'm going to post on his facebook that he is a thief but I'm not going to call the police because he  wasn't stealing. Fuck logic

Copyright is a party asserting their ownership of an intellectual property. This includes "rights frequently include reproduction, control over derivative works, distribution, public performance, and "moral rights" such as attribution." If the Bytecoin guys wanted to sue Monero for infringement, they'd have full legal authority and would more than likely win in court if they can prove they are the original content creators.

The difference with Bitcoin is it is granted under the MIT license which is a euphemism for permissive licensed software, however in reality the thing is a joke. MIT is not a lawmaking body, they are not patent clerks and using them as some authority for what is and isn't legal copyright is absurd. Sure there is a big debate about what is polite in open source communities but I challenge any of this crap to hold up in a REAL court of law not governed by utopian nerds.

Personally I follow common sense, if you don't want your stuff copied and hacked, don't put it out there or assert strict legal ownership of it because the only thing that can put a stop to bad behavior is the threat of a court order. You should see how much stock photo and font theft goes on in the graphic design community, but if no one is going to challenge it or assert their rights then it's the wild west.

Red herring & ad hominem at the same time? Impressive.

I'm not sure you understand copyright licenses.

The legality of it doesn't really matter. In the open source, free software community, this type of behavior is incredibly immoral. It's not a fucking free for all, there are community standards to be upheld from an ethics standpoint.

The simple fact that john-connor claimed to have written the entire Vanillacoin source from scratch means he has committed fraud. Why you would trust a developer like this is beyond me. Regardless of his ability to develop software, his inability to engage in ethical practices is a huge red flag.

Yet he has already built a following of sheep trying to ride his coattail to monetary gain.  

Regardless of what JC did or didn't do, from a legal standpoint the Monero team had no right to take what is copyrighted software and slap their own copyright on top of it. Now of course the bytecoin guys are anonymous hackers who will probably never come out of hiding to sue him and the horse is out of the barn already but the point is they don't really understand what the word "copyright" really means.

Also I LOL at this statement

"Parts of the project are originally copyright (c) 2012-2013 The Cryptonote developers"

I guess 90-95% of code is only "parts"  

Btw I actually support Monero and forking Bytecoin for the obvious shady premine aspect of the original, but i'm not going to pretend it's anything more than a warez/pirated version of it.

I agree - if a law has been broken (you haven't even established in which jurisdiction yet?) then you should report it to the police or engage a lawyer for a professional opinion.

In fact I will report it to the bitcoin police on reddit for you

I don't believe that false accusations are the only thing other devs can do... They can't code zero time that's for sure.  


You can accuse anyone for anything. That's why we have courts to prove that someone is guilty. If you are certain that he broke the law then go and inform the police... What are you waiting for... oh wait

Why does it appear that the shady characters always ignore or deflect away from a request that is made that gets to the point of certain issues?

It must be in their DNA...kinda like how scammers that operate ponzi schemes on large scales only care about self image and luxury and could care less about actually running a business to turn a profit.

Go for it dumbass

Shut up kid or I'm going to ask to ICM dump more hundreds of thousands of SDC that he got through the shadowtrash exploit

Why are you still so salty of people in the Shadowcash community going out of their ways to try and protect your dumb ass from being scammed?

I really dont care if someone took a line of an open source and not written where it came from or if another took a whole code and instead of putting it was copied and pasted from a scam called bytecoin, put "cryptonote creators" to make people think that the creators are themselves.

What really matters to me is that vanilla coin will soon be a perfect currency, much better technically than btc, xmr (timebomb) and dash.

I just hope vnl changes its name

hey we have also SDC shadowtrash trolls here.
They reminded me of this thread "The full truth behind ShadowCash trolls and Their attacks on other coins."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-full-truth-behind-shadowcashcoin-trolls-and-their-attacks-on-other-coins-818939

thats idiotic, yes he spams, but the normal John-Conner spams are to github with constant updates
and that is more than enough for followers of this project to be happy about.


this coming from a guy who created a thread to restart an argument that people stopped caring about months ago.
John is just spamming you for trolling