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Wheatclove

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Quote from: Gillette on September 20, 2015, 02:45:14 AM

Smooth - the dev of XMR has made serious accusations against Vanilla coin:

john-conner's project, Vanillacoin (VNL), includes a significant amount of reformatted and, at best, lightly-edited Bitcoin code which has illegally and unethically had its attribution and copyright notices removed. In addition, he describes Vanillacoin as written "from scratch in its entirety", a false, misleading, and fraudulent claim that is being used to promote his coin. Given that this shows dishonesty, low credibility, and willingness to engage in unethical conduct, extreme caution is advised.

What do you guys think? Is this accusation grounded?

This is not an accusation made solely by smooth. Anyone with even a novice eye for C++ (like myself) can check out both source codes and prove it.

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Yawn. So much FUD on these forums its ridiculous. It would seem the more FUD, the more legit the project.

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Quote from: Wheatclove on September 20, 2015, 06:32:55 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 20, 2015, 06:23:36 PM

Quote from: john-connor on September 20, 2015, 06:21:04 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

Thank you for your support.

Attacking smooth for his excellent work on XMR and AEON does nothing to change this fact:

Quote from: jwinterm on September 20, 2015, 06:18:34 PM

The issue is whether [VanillaCoin] illegally and unethically used Bitcoin code without attribution. The answer is 'yes'.

The more you deflect, the more it confirms you are a scammer.

Smooth was not the first person to show evidence that the code was simply reformatted from Bitcoin, either.

Yes, it's adorable how the VanillaScammers attack gmax for (of all things) being a BTC core dev. As if that disqualifes his findings of fact w.r.t. other cryptocoins... Grin

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XMR/AEON Developer Smooth Investigation

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 20, 2015, 06:23:36 PM

Quote from: john-connor on September 20, 2015, 06:21:04 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

Thank you for your support.

Attacking smooth for his excellent work on XMR and AEON does nothing to change this fact:

Quote from: jwinterm on September 20, 2015, 06:18:34 PM

The issue is whether [VanillaCoin] illegally and unethically used Bitcoin code without attribution. The answer is 'yes'.

The more you deflect, the more it confirms you are a scammer.

Smooth was not the first person to show evidence that the code was simply reformatted from Bitcoin, either.

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XMR/AEON Developer Smooth Investigation

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

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iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: john-connor on September 20, 2015, 06:21:04 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

Thank you for your support.

Attacking smooth for his excellent work on XMR and AEON does nothing to change this fact:

Quote from: jwinterm on September 20, 2015, 06:18:34 PM

The issue is whether [VanillaCoin] illegally and unethically used Bitcoin code without attribution. The answer is 'yes'.

The more you deflect, the more it confirms you are a scammer.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

Thank you for your support.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: jwinterm on September 20, 2015, 06:18:34 PM

The issue is whether he illegally and unethically used Bitcoin code without attribution. The answer is 'yes'.

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Quote from: jimlite on September 20, 2015, 06:14:24 PM

Use common sense. NO dev codes non stop 24/7/365 for a year constantly pushing code to github to make a scam coin. The 500 scam coins you see pop up here every year are from no talent "devs" that spend a few hours cloning a coin, putting up an ANN, and doing a 1 week pump and dump Yobit coin and then disappear. I think even with all our disagreements, we can surely agree that VNL is NOT a Karsen or clown dev. few hour clone job from a serial shit coin dev. that just pumps out shit coin after shitcoin with pre-mines and ICOs that all fail. Whether you like John Connor and Vanilla coin or not, he definately deserves to be held in high regards with similiar devs from XMR, DASH, DOGE, LTC, and other top coins. He has nothing in common with bottom barrel Yobit or C-Cex coin devs that pump out crap coin after crap coin, and Ocminer has attested to that, and he has seen more crap coins than anyone here, LOL.

Did you read the OP:

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john-conner's project, Vanillacoin (VNL), includes a significant amount of reformatted and, at best, lightly-edited Bitcoin code which has illegally and unethically had its attribution and copyright notices removed. In addition, he describes Vanillacoin as written "from scratch in its entirety", a false, misleading, and fraudulent claim that is being used to promote his coin. Given that this shows dishonesty, low credibility, and willingness to engage in unethical conduct, extreme caution is advised.

The issue is whether he illegally and unethically used Bitcoin code without attribution. The answer is 'yes'.

Wheatclove

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Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2015, 05:33:07 PM

Quote from: EmilioMann on September 20, 2015, 05:28:43 PM

stolen? an open source?

Open source licenses have conditions. Bitcoin's license has very few conditions indeed -- you can do almost any damn thing you want with it legitimately -- but one of few it does have is retaining the attribution.

I wouldn't waste your keystrokes on EmilioMann if I were you.

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Use common sense. NO dev codes non stop 24/7/365 for a year constantly pushing code to github to make a scam coin. The 500 scam coins you see pop up here every year are from no talent "devs" that spend a few hours cloning a coin, putting up an ANN, and doing a 1 week pump and dump Yobit coin and then disappear. I think even with all our disagreements, we can surely agree that VNL is NOT a Karsen or clown dev. few hour clone job from a serial shit coin dev. that just pumps out shit coin after shitcoin with pre-mines and ICOs that all fail. Whether you like John Connor and Vanilla coin or not, he definately deserves to be held in high regards with similiar devs from XMR, DASH, DOGE, LTC, and other top coins. He has nothing in common with bottom barrel Yobit or C-Cex coin devs that pump out crap coin after crap coin, and Ocminer has attested to that, and he has seen more crap coins than anyone here, LOL.

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Quote from: BagHolder010 on September 20, 2015, 05:37:50 PM

Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2015, 05:19:23 PM

Quote from: BagHolder010 on September 20, 2015, 05:16:02 PM

This is is just full of Monero haters hating everywhere as always.

And now the usual Monero-hater suspects from Dash. Welcome.

You misqouted again....

Quote from: BagHolder010 on September 20, 2015, 05:16:02 PM

Quote from: john-connor on September 20, 2015, 05:01:51 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

Thank you for your support.

Smooth dares to call out people for copy pasting now? LOOOOOOOOOL....I Guess he is jealous of anyone with coding skills something not only Smooth can't comprehend but all the 30 Monero developers who can't do shit for a year and half alrdy.

This is is just full of Monero haters hating everywhere as always.

Also get out of DASH ANN thread you're a nuisance over there with all the Monero group who always seems to come to Dash Ann thread.

If you guys have nothing but speculations and attacking others why don't all of you meet up and maybe just maybe start a true PR for Monero? this is how you get ppl involved with you not by attacking since you don't know how to code.
P.S - Cry*p*to about it into forums type of developers are the worse man grow up and start coding! perhaps some lessons from Evan haha

Does even use lube with you or is he a rough rider? Roll Eyes

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Smooth doing the community a solid, cheers smooth

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Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2015, 05:19:23 PM

Quote from: BagHolder010 on September 20, 2015, 05:16:02 PM

This is is just full of Monero haters hating everywhere as always.

And now the usual Monero-hater suspects from Dash. Welcome.

You misqouted again....

Quote from: BagHolder010 on September 20, 2015, 05:16:02 PM

Quote from: john-connor on September 20, 2015, 05:01:51 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565 Cool

Thank you for your support.

Smooth dares to call out people for copy pasting now? LOOOOOOOOOL....I Guess he is jealous of anyone with coding skills something not only Smooth can't comprehend but all the 30 Monero developers who can't do shit for a year and half alrdy.

This is is just full of Monero haters hating everywhere as always.

Also get out of DASH ANN thread you're a nuisance over there with all the Monero group who always seems to come to Dash Ann thread.

If you guys have nothing but speculations and attacking others why don't all of you meet up and maybe just maybe start a true PR for Monero? this is how you get ppl involved with you not by attacking since you don't know how to code.
P.S - Cry*p*to about it into forums type of developers are the worse man grow up and start coding! perhaps some lessons from Evan haha

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its funny, seeing the fud attacks is almost starting to become an indicator of when to buy

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Quote from: EmilioMann on September 20, 2015, 05:28:43 PM

stolen? an open source?

Open source licenses have conditions. Bitcoin's license has very few conditions indeed -- you can do almost any damn thing you want with it legitimately -- but one of few it does have is retaining the attribution.

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Quote from: EmilioMann on September 20, 2015, 05:28:43 PM

Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2015, 05:21:03 PM

Quote from: EmilioMann on September 20, 2015, 05:18:31 PM

WOW
Vanilla is getting hot.
Suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

gmaxwell's post was from January. Mine was over a month ago. None of this has to do with anything "getting" hot or anything else but sure you can twist it to shill your coin. Wouldn't expect anything less from shillcointalk.org.

c'mon man, what are you doing here acting like a kid?
Go take care of "your" coin and leave the others in peace.

Maybe it has something to do with name being mentioned in the thread title?

Other than that I have no recent involvement or interest in any of this.

If you are wondering why this is being brought up again now, ask the thread starter.

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Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2015, 05:21:03 PM

Quote from: EmilioMann on September 20, 2015, 05:18:31 PM

WOW
Vanilla is getting hot.
Suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

gmaxwell's post was from January. Mine was over a month ago. None of this has to do with anything "getting" hot or anything else but sure you can twist it to shill your coin. Wouldn't expect anything less from shillcointalk.org.

c'mon man, what are you doing here acting like a kid?
Go take care of "your" coin and leave the others in peace.

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 20, 2015, 05:22:15 PM

Quote from: EmilioMann on September 20, 2015, 05:18:31 PM

Vanilla suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

How is bringing public attention to Vanilla's stolen (ie refactored/unattributed) code a "fud attack?"

stolen? an open source?

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Quote from: EmilioMann on September 20, 2015, 05:18:31 PM

Vanilla suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

How is bringing public attention to Vanilla's stolen (ie refactored/unattributed) code a "fud attack?"

Quote from: smooth on September 20, 2015, 05:21:03 PM

gmaxwell's post was from January. Mine was over a month ago. None of this has to do with anything "getting hot"

lol rekt

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