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August 19, 2017, 09:28:56 AM
#34
Anyone who has studied classic Economics will tell you that bitcoin is a bubble, but he can develop and become a full-fledged currency. Such an experiment has already been carried out on the scale of one country. It was a company of MMM in Russia. Now her head is on the loose and maybe Satoshi is a pseudonym Mavrodi.

Yes but bitcoin is not a classic asset.

Bitcoin is a religion, that is what analysts are failing to perceive.
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August 19, 2017, 08:51:11 AM
#33
Anyone who has studied classic Economics will tell you that bitcoin is a bubble, but he can develop and become a full-fledged currency. Such an experiment has already been carried out on the scale of one country. It was a company of MMM in Russia. Now her head is on the loose and maybe Satoshi is a pseudonym Mavrodi.
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August 19, 2017, 08:49:09 AM
#32
In my opinion, we are still in the beginning of Bitcoin. Less than 10 years old is nothing. So I would place Bitcoin in the awareness stage to compare with your graph. There are still a lot to do, a lot to see

Indeed, although we are in the early days of bitcoin, however, the strong outburst of altcoin in the bitcoin platform has made all of us trapped in a bubble, and if it continues to grow, It can break at any time.

Yep... the alt coin and ICO token market was definitely bubbly, although it seems to have calmed down a bit. To me it actually looks like most alt coins are in the early blow off phase of the current cycle, with a couple of coins and tokens lagging behind. Of course it might just be an alt coin bear trap, but I think that alts already have grown way beyond what is healthy and will largely depend on Bitcoin's next movements.

Wherever any altcoins value bumps up that even bitcoin value bump along with that. In marketplace stocks every digital currency have been increase with together. I noticed some ICO has started few months before that's value seems increased to 100 and more value.
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August 19, 2017, 08:04:01 AM
#31
I only sold BCH that I have bought earlier, and got some profit.

The ones I received from the fork, are still intact.

I think BTC price will be tanked around 4000-4200 range for the next week, and it will only move upwards again after Ver and co. dump all or most of their coins for the BCH pump. By then, BCH will probably be on the same price range. Then both coins will start moving up past the 4000-4200 range.

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August 19, 2017, 07:56:07 AM
#30
I know y'all have seen this diagram before, and with BTC just crossing $3,800 as I type, where do you think we are in the bubble?



Aw man so cuz I'm a noob it won't post the image... Oh well. Its basically that "main stages of a bubble" chart. Which crypto most definitely is in. But are we just beginning the true ascent, or have we reached the peak? Thoughts?

Do you see many institutional investors in Bitcoin at this time? Are pension funds including Bitcoin in their portfolios? I have exposure to this information at my job and can assure you they are not.

Based on this I would say that we are still in the stealth phase, possibly moving into the awareness phase.

Pension funds can't invest in unregulated investments (because this is old people's retirements we're talking about). However, Hedge Funds can invest in whatever they like and I think this current move up in the last few months is hedge fund money.

That is why I think we're at the first stage of Mania, which is "Media Attention". Once cryptos get ETFs approved etc, then we get to the part of mania labelled "public" where Joe Bloggs is actively choosing to put money into cryptos. We are several years off that. BTW, I think this chart is for cryotos as a whole, not just bitcoin - no way to know which coin will be top top when we blow the top.
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August 19, 2017, 05:50:49 AM
#29
I know y'all have seen this diagram before, and with BTC just crossing $3,800 as I type, where do you think we are in the bubble?



Aw man so cuz I'm a noob it won't post the image... Oh well. Its basically that "main stages of a bubble" chart. Which crypto most definitely is in. But are we just beginning the true ascent, or have we reached the peak? Thoughts?

That image is nice, unlucky you can’t post it. This might not be a bubble at all, especially with the recent drops in value. There was a drop to 2000 a while back before August the first, we then recovered and we rose to 3000, stabilised there and then pushed up to 3.5K. Then we dropped to 3.1K and now with more pumping from miners, we have reached 3.8K.

If we are in a bubble though, I would say we are in the media attention phase now, people are getting more and more interested with bitcoin daily and the media is also following suit.


Well for me, I think we are still in the awareness stage.
There are very few people know about bitcoin still, this world is a big place. 
We are now still creating awareness to the masses about bitcoin and it advantages.
Some people like the idea of bitcoin but they don't really want to get involved because they are old school.
It seems like the people of next generation will adopts bitcoin more because they will be born in computer generation (Digital Age).
 
legendary
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August 18, 2017, 06:11:41 AM
#28
In my opinion, we are still in the beginning of Bitcoin. Less than 10 years old is nothing. So I would place Bitcoin in the awareness stage to compare with your graph. There are still a lot to do, a lot to see

Indeed, although we are in the early days of bitcoin, however, the strong outburst of altcoin in the bitcoin platform has made all of us trapped in a bubble, and if it continues to grow, It can break at any time.

Yep... the alt coin and ICO token market was definitely bubbly, although it seems to have calmed down a bit. To me it actually looks like most alt coins are in the early blow off phase of the current cycle, with a couple of coins and tokens lagging behind. Of course it might just be an alt coin bear trap, but I think that alts already have grown way beyond what is healthy and will largely depend on Bitcoin's next movements.
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August 18, 2017, 03:50:31 AM
#27
In my opinion, we are still in the beginning of Bitcoin. Less than 10 years old is nothing. So I would place Bitcoin in the awareness stage to compare with your graph. There are still a lot to do, a lot to see

Indeed, although we are in the early days of bitcoin, however, the strong outburst of altcoin in the bitcoin platform has made all of us trapped in a bubble, and if it continues to grow, It can break at any time.
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August 18, 2017, 03:23:27 AM
#26
I know y'all have seen this diagram before, and with BTC just crossing $3,800 as I type, where do you think we are in the bubble?



 But are we just beginning the true ascent, or have we reached the peak? Thoughts?

Basically, this cycle always repeated again and again in every year along bitcoin journey. I don't think this chart represent bitcoin development - movement over time as in the beginning and midway, bitcoin charts fluctuate a lot but seems increase rather than significant decrease because of fear, capitulation or back to the mean, and in the end bitcoin price should be steady when it reach the highest peak.

But, if we talking about bitcoin bubble, we're still on awareness phase as most people in the world don't know about bitcoin or just know that there is a digital currency named bitcoin, but don't really know what bitcoin is. Wait until all media write about bitcoin and cause more people aware of bitcoin existence and its usability.
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August 18, 2017, 02:56:28 AM
#25
6 days later, price has shot up $600...

Man I love that graphic. Still nobody knows exactly where we are, but we know its comin'. Its just human nature.

So _now_ where are we in the bubble?

Grin  Cheesy  Huh
legendary
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August 12, 2017, 11:10:52 AM
#24
I'm not sure if we are in a bubble to be honest. Bitcoin was surpressed for a long time and maybe right now we are just moving where the price should be, wherever this will be. Probably we will see some overshooting but imo we are not there yet.
Some say we could still see some 3-5x from the actual price and then we see some emotional and massive correction.
Just enjoy what you are witnessing right now and just take some profits if you feel scary.
Bitcoin is wild and will continue doing so for many more years.  Wink
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August 12, 2017, 11:08:01 AM
#23

Do you see many institutional investors in Bitcoin at this time? Are pension funds including Bitcoin in their portfolios? I have exposure to this information at my job and can assure you they are not.

Based on this I would say that we are still in the stealth phase, possibly moving into the awareness phase.

That's great info to know bro. I feel the same in people around me. Most do not want to know much about bitcoin, but they have heard about it already. If this graph is going to be true... the big raise is much yet to come.



It is not they want to know much. They does not about bitcoin first, if you say bitcoin is digital currency and then so and so information. Let them understand the bitcoin by themselves. You just earn the bitcoin with your strategy you have. Explain about signature earning and other online earnings.
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August 12, 2017, 10:57:40 AM
#22
In my opinion, we are still in the beginning of Bitcoin. Less than 10 years old is nothing. So I would place Bitcoin in the awareness stage to compare with your graph. There are still a lot to do, a lot to see
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August 12, 2017, 10:54:58 AM
#21

Do you see many institutional investors in Bitcoin at this time? Are pension funds including Bitcoin in their portfolios? I have exposure to this information at my job and can assure you they are not.

Based on this I would say that we are still in the stealth phase, possibly moving into the awareness phase.

That's great info to know bro. I feel the same in people around me. Most do not want to know much about bitcoin, but they have heard about it already. If this graph is going to be true... the big raise is much yet to come.

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August 12, 2017, 10:51:47 AM
#20
not this image again. this image has been posted more times than i have satoshi Wink

and if you want my answer, i say we are currently in the blow off phase when the despair had already happened at the bottom price of $1830 and it is slowly coming back up to the "mean"
What are you on about?

The bubble moved out of the stealth phase at around $1000, differing from the mean.  If you look at a chart, you can see the bull market beginning at around August to October 2015.  In late 2016 it starts pushing unusually fast, moving into the "awareness phase".  In about March 2017 there is a notable sell off, which is the "bear trap".  Then the price begins jumping sharply at the start of May, which is when the "mania phase" begins.

During the mania phase there has been some swings, but only relatively minor ones.  Even the drop to $1800 was not very significant.  Now we are going so rapidly upwards that it is blatantly the "greed" or "delusion" phase (which is why the public, including you, are having delusions about where we are in the bubble).

The bubble may have further to go up, but I'm already mostly out as I've been buying stuff with my coins over the last couple of days.

The "mean" is somewhere between $800 and $1200 if you ask me.  I expect a bear market to bottom out around $600, which could happen in the next two to three years.
legendary
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August 12, 2017, 10:29:53 AM
#19
During this bubble I think we are between enthusiasm and greed.

But don't you worry: There will be more bubbles in future. Bitcoin is in a never-ending cycle of bubbles.
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August 12, 2017, 09:41:28 AM
#18
Bitcoin prices have risen again and everyone is talking about bubble. forget this. The price is real. What will you say when the price reach 10000 dollar?
There is no bubble. Do not wait for price fall. Buy bitcoin now.
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August 12, 2017, 09:12:14 AM
#17
not this image again. this image has been posted more times than i have satoshi Wink

and if you want my answer, i say we are currently in the blow off phase when the despair had already happened at the bottom price of $1830 and it is slowly coming back up to the "mean"
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August 12, 2017, 09:02:21 AM
#16
I know y'all have seen this diagram before, and with BTC just crossing $3,800 as I type, where do you think we are in the bubble?
Aw man so cuz I'm a noob it won't post the image... Oh well. Its basically that "main stages of a bubble" chart. Which crypto most definitely is in. But are we just beginning the true ascent, or have we reached the peak? Thoughts?

Bubble is created when commodity is overvalued than its actual value. But how could you limit the sky of so-called Bitcoin? You are not the first to ask about bubble phase, this discussion has been here on forum from long when it was $500 or $1k or $2k but see where we are today. What happened to those claiming Bitcoin prices to be bubble in past!
There is still much to go for Bitcoin, whole of its rally depends upon public adoption which is still very-very low. As it will grow its feathers, price will boom and boom.
There is hardly any bubble at the moment.

It's hard to estimate the real value of bitcoin or the pointn when it is overvalued.
But bitcoin with it's features combined with its limited supply, that is worth something!
And when you think about how few people actually use bitcoin, I see still very much potential in it.
Corrections will happen, there is no doubt about that, but personally I think that we are at the beginning of a very long trend!
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August 12, 2017, 08:52:48 AM
#15
I know y'all have seen this diagram before, and with BTC just crossing $3,800 as I type, where do you think we are in the bubble?
Aw man so cuz I'm a noob it won't post the image... Oh well. Its basically that "main stages of a bubble" chart. Which crypto most definitely is in. But are we just beginning the true ascent, or have we reached the peak? Thoughts?

Bubble is created when commodity is overvalued than its actual value. But how could you limit the sky of so-called Bitcoin? You are not the first to ask about bubble phase, this discussion has been here on forum from long when it was $500 or $1k or $2k but see where we are today. What happened to those claiming Bitcoin prices to be bubble in past!
There is still much to go for Bitcoin, whole of its rally depends upon public adoption which is still very-very low. As it will grow its feathers, price will boom and boom.
There is hardly any bubble at the moment.
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