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Topic: [SOLD OUT] TerraMiner IV – 2TH/s (February Batch) - page 9. (Read 16150 times)

newbie
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Shares list has been updated, thanks for buying
newbie
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Ok, I get what you mean.
Unfortunattely asic producers have a bad habit of delivering late,
one month late and you can see your profit disappear as snow in the summer lol.
So let's hope for the best.

Yes, your only worry have to be the delay of delivery... If they will delivery 1 month late is possible we'll get no profit and if they delivery even after we're gonna lose our moneys.

Theoretically February batch should be a big deal.......

sr. member
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Ok, I get what you mean.
Unfortunattely asic producers have a bad habit of delivering late,
one month late and you can see your profit disappear as snow in the summer lol.
So let's hope for the best.
newbie
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Yeah, I think you misplaced the dot. should be 2.192BTC?

I'm showing what 4TH/s will mine Smiley.

I take your case:

you bought 10 shares and paid for it 0.07BTC

so we take this line


Effective earnings of GB: BTC17.72  (minimum)

cos you paid 0.007 per shares.

So you will get your percentage (0.25%) of 17.72BTC as pure profit (it mean in addition to what you spent)

so with 10 shares you will get back your investment plus 0.0443BTC for a total of 0.1143BTC.

Substantially if they will delivery on Monday we will get about 65% ROI

sr. member
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Yeah, I think you misplaced the dot. should be 2.192BTC?
No, I think what he meant was if you bought the ENTIRE stock then you would make 21.92BTC. According to his calculations of the earnings of course. Effectively this is a sure bet and you will double your money. I LOVE it when someone offers to double my money. Do you?
sr. member
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Yeah, I think you misplaced the dot. should be 2.192BTC?
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newbie
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this is what I think about our ROI / increasing month 80% and I think is fulsome.

4 TH/s from February with 2.5% FEES and down times already provided


Feb-14 2194 27  BTC20.20  
Mar-14 3949 49  BTC14.30
Apr-14 7108 88 BTC7.61
May-1412795 159  BTC3.92  
Jun-14 23030 286  BTC1.87  
Jul-14 41454 515  BTC0.73
Aug-14 74618 927  BTC0.09


Cumulative return:  BTC48.72

remove 3 btc for difficulty's increasing during month. (it is fulsome)

Effective return: BTC45.72  (minimum)

than if we keep mine BTC we're gonna lose moneys

Sep-14 134312 1669  BTC-0.26
Oct-14 241761 3005  BTC-0.46
Nov-14 435171 5408  BTC-0.56
Dec-14 783307 9735  BTC-0.62


We'll gonna mine others alt and any advice is welcome, I don't know yet which other crypto currencies is more profitable to mine with a terraminer.
I will learn more about next months.

remember when you try to calculate we are in 30 January, if you put an increase month 80% it should start from the month after. Not from the day after tomorrow!

If you look at difficulty it is gonna growing less rapidly of what everybody expected.

Bitcoin Difficulty: 2,193,847,870
Estimated Next Difficulty: 2,584,029,740 (+17.79%) 
Adjust time: After 1080 Blocks, About 6.7 days 


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4 TH/s in this topic will be sold at maximum 4000x0.007=28BTC

Effective earnings of GB: BTC17.72  (minimum)

If you get shares buying at group of 200GH/s you gonna pay 1.19BTC each 200GH/s, so (4000/200)GH/s*1.19BTC = 23.8BTC

Effective earnings of GB: BTC21.92  (minimum)

If you get shares buying at group of 500GH/s you gonna pay 2.65BTC each 500GH/s, so (4000/500)GH/s*2.65BTC = 21.2BTC

Effective earnings of GB: BTC24.52  (minimum)

If you get shares buying at group of 1000GH/s you gonna pay 5.0BTC each 500GH/s, so (4000/1000)GH/s*5.1BTC = 20.4BTC

Effective earnings of GB: BTC25.32  (minimum)

newbie
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member
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Sorry I can't help myself, ROFL!
EQUIPMENT / CONTRACT COST (USD) : 552.50

    TOTAL PROFIT (USD) : 56.46

Buy a 2 used 7970 and start hashing alt u numbnutz!
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On the website of cointerra they say they ship the machines under 2Th/s. (http://cointerra.com/update-production-news-janfeb-batch-customer-offer/)
However, customers can recieve a coupon code of 15% for a next order, as quoted below:

Quote
"For January or February batch retail customers who wish to receive their TerraMiner order in the currently-shipping specification we will offer a 15% discount coupon* redeemable against their next retail hardware order placed at the CoinTerra website store.  If a January or February batch retail customer chooses to accept their order as-is they will automatically receive this coupon. "

If Hashcesar84 accepts this coupon, how will the price per share be affected? Or will we recieve more shares so the total amount of hashes/s per share is the same.

If they will give me I will accept the coupon, but I don't know if I'm gonna buy more from cointerra's shop in next months. I hope they will give me an additional terraminer for another batch as they are doing with people who bought January batch, in this case I will share it. I didn't understand very well if this refund's coupon cancel what they told previously about additional miner.

Now I can't find where they talk about additional miner, but I will look for it and I will post the link asap. I'm sure I reed it anywhere!

Probably they are gonna delivery on time and it will be better for everyone.

sr. member
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On the website of cointerra they say they ship the machines under 2Th/s. (http://cointerra.com/update-production-news-janfeb-batch-customer-offer/)
However, customers can recieve a coupon code of 15% for a next order, as quoted below:

Quote
"For January or February batch retail customers who wish to receive their TerraMiner order in the currently-shipping specification we will offer a 15% discount coupon* redeemable against their next retail hardware order placed at the CoinTerra website store.  If a January or February batch retail customer chooses to accept their order as-is they will automatically receive this coupon. "

If Hashcesar84 accepts this coupon, how will the price per share be affected? Or will we recieve more shares so the total amount of hashes/s per share is the same.
sr. member
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Of course its still a risk, but a February or early March delivery and this miner should return ROI.  Assuming that difficulty continues to increase at the current rate of 1.32 every 2 weeks, and BTC price stays constant at about 850/$US, the difficult in one month will be 3.288e9 and the ROI will be 200% after only 90 days:


I just saw the cointerra blog where they say that the early shipping units will achieve 1.64-1.72 Th/s.  Also, my method above was slightly flawed because I computed ROI for someone buying the Terrahasher and operating it themselves, versus what is offered here which is a share of 2 Terrahashers with a management fee... so correcting my calculations:

Cost of 100 shares: .65 BTC ($552.5 at 850/US$)
Percentage ownership: 2.5% (of 2 machine total hashing power per prior clarification by OP)
Computing power of 100 shares: .025 * 3,400,000 Mh/s (assuming these will average 1.7 Th/s each) = 85 Gh/s
Net computing power of 100 shares adjusted for 2.5% fee: 85 - (.025 * 85) = 82.875 Gh/s
Cost of 1 Gh/s: .65 / 82.875 = .007843 BTC per Gh/s (net of the 2.5% fee)

The 90 day ROI under this scenario, hashing starting 30 days from now, for 100 shares is still a pretty decent $180.95 (a 34.4% return in 120 days - better than I can do with any other investment right now):

For these values ...

     MHash : 82875.0
     Difficulty : 3.822E9
     Days : 90
     Change : 1.32
     Watt : 0.0
     Electricity cost (USD/kwh) : 0.0
     USD/BTC rate : 850.0
     Equipment / contract (USD): 552.5

You can expect ...

     Day 1: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.022 BTC
     Day 2: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.044 BTC
     Day 3: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.065 BTC
     Day 4: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.087 BTC
     Day 5: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.109 BTC
     Day 6: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.131 BTC
     Day 7: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.153 BTC
     Day 8: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.174 BTC
     Day 9: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.196 BTC
     Day 10: +0.022 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.218 BTC
     Day 11: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.238 BTC
     Day 12: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.254 BTC
     Day 13: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.271 BTC
     Day 14: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.287 BTC
     Day 15: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.304 BTC
     Day 16: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.320 BTC
     Day 17: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.337 BTC
     Day 18: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.353 BTC
     Day 19: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.370 BTC
     Day 20: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.387 BTC
     Day 21: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 0.403 BTC
     Day 22: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.416 BTC
     Day 23: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.429 BTC
     Day 24: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.441 BTC
     Day 25: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.454 BTC
     Day 26: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.466 BTC
     Day 27: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.479 BTC
     Day 28: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.491 BTC
     Day 29: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.504 BTC
     Day 30: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.517 BTC
     Day 31: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 0.529 BTC
     Day 32: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.541 BTC
     Day 33: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.551 BTC
     Day 34: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.560 BTC
     Day 35: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.569 BTC
     Day 36: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.579 BTC
     Day 37: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.588 BTC
     Day 38: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.598 BTC
     Day 39: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.607 BTC
     Day 40: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.617 BTC
     Day 41: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.626 BTC
     Day 42: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 0.636 BTC
     Day 43: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.644 BTC
     Day 44: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.651 BTC
     Day 45: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.658 BTC
     Day 46: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.666 BTC
     Day 47: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.673 BTC
     Day 48: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.680 BTC
     Day 49: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.687 BTC
     Day 50: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.694 BTC
     Day 51: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.701 BTC
     Day 52: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.709 BTC
     Day 53: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 0.716 BTC
     Day 54: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.721 BTC
     Day 55: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.727 BTC
     Day 56: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.732 BTC
     Day 57: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.738 BTC
     Day 58: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.743 BTC
     Day 59: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.749 BTC
     Day 60: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.754 BTC
     Day 61: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.759 BTC
     Day 62: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.765 BTC
     Day 63: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 0.770 BTC
     Day 64: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.775 BTC
     Day 65: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.779 BTC
     Day 66: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.784 BTC
     Day 67: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.788 BTC
     Day 68: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.792 BTC
     Day 69: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.796 BTC
     Day 70: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.800 BTC
     Day 71: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.804 BTC
     Day 72: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.808 BTC
     Day 73: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.812 BTC
     Day 74: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 0.817 BTC
     Day 75: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.820 BTC
     Day 76: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.823 BTC
     Day 77: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.826 BTC
     Day 78: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.829 BTC
     Day 79: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.832 BTC
     Day 80: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.836 BTC
     Day 81: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.839 BTC
     Day 82: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.842 BTC
     Day 83: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.845 BTC
     Day 84: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 0.848 BTC
     Day 85: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 0.851 BTC
     Day 86: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 0.853 BTC
     Day 87: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 0.856 BTC
     Day 88: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 0.858 BTC
     Day 89: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 0.861 BTC
     Day 90: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 0.863 BTC

    TOTAL RETURN (BTC) : 0.86288226

    TOTAL RETURN (USD) : 733.45

    TOTAL ELECTRICITY (KWH) : 0.0

    TOTAL ELECTRICITY COST (USD) : 0.00

    EQUIPMENT / CONTRACT COST (USD) : 552.50

    TOTAL PROFIT (USD) : 180.95

      *** default change of 1.32 was used for this report ***


Also, on the downside, if you add on 14 days of difficulty increases (to middle of March when refunds are promised if no delivery) you get a worst case.  This would mean that starting difficulty on March 14 is 5.045e9, and the ROI on a 100 share purchase has to be stretched out to 180 days to get a break-even (slightly positive return of about $56, which is nearly a 10% return on a 180 day investment of $552.50):

For these values ...

     MHash : 82875.0
     Difficulty : 5.045E9
     Days : 180
     Change : 1.32
     Watt : 0.0
     Electricity cost (USD/kwh) : 0.0
     USD/BTC rate : 850.0
     Equipment / contract (USD): 552.5

You can expect ...

     Day 1: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.017 BTC
     Day 2: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.033 BTC
     Day 3: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.050 BTC
     Day 4: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.066 BTC
     Day 5: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.083 BTC
     Day 6: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.099 BTC
     Day 7: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.116 BTC
     Day 8: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.132 BTC
     Day 9: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.149 BTC
     Day 10: +0.017 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.000M, 0.165 BTC
     Day 11: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.180 BTC
     Day 12: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.193 BTC
     Day 13: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.205 BTC
     Day 14: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.218 BTC
     Day 15: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.230 BTC
     Day 16: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.243 BTC
     Day 17: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.255 BTC
     Day 18: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.268 BTC
     Day 19: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.280 BTC
     Day 20: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.293 BTC
     Day 21: +0.013 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.400M, 0.305 BTC
     Day 22: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.315 BTC
     Day 23: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.325 BTC
     Day 24: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.334 BTC
     Day 25: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.344 BTC
     Day 26: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.353 BTC
     Day 27: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.363 BTC
     Day 28: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.372 BTC
     Day 29: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.382 BTC
     Day 30: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.391 BTC
     Day 31: +0.009 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.408M, 0.401 BTC
     Day 32: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.410 BTC
     Day 33: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.417 BTC
     Day 34: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.424 BTC
     Day 35: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.431 BTC
     Day 36: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.439 BTC
     Day 37: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.446 BTC
     Day 38: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.453 BTC
     Day 39: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.460 BTC
     Day 40: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.467 BTC
     Day 41: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.475 BTC
     Day 42: +0.007 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.339M, 0.482 BTC
     Day 43: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.488 BTC
     Day 44: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.493 BTC
     Day 45: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.499 BTC
     Day 46: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.504 BTC
     Day 47: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.510 BTC
     Day 48: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.515 BTC
     Day 49: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.521 BTC
     Day 50: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.526 BTC
     Day 51: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.531 BTC
     Day 52: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.537 BTC
     Day 53: +0.005 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.407M, 0.542 BTC
     Day 54: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.546 BTC
     Day 55: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.551 BTC
     Day 56: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.555 BTC
     Day 57: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.559 BTC
     Day 58: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.563 BTC
     Day 59: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.567 BTC
     Day 60: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.571 BTC
     Day 61: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.575 BTC
     Day 62: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.579 BTC
     Day 63: +0.004 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.657M, 0.584 BTC
     Day 64: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.587 BTC
     Day 65: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.590 BTC
     Day 66: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.594 BTC
     Day 67: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.597 BTC
     Day 68: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.600 BTC
     Day 69: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.603 BTC
     Day 70: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.606 BTC
     Day 71: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.609 BTC
     Day 72: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.612 BTC
     Day 73: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.615 BTC
     Day 74: +0.003 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.307M, 0.619 BTC
     Day 75: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.621 BTC
     Day 76: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.624 BTC
     Day 77: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.626 BTC
     Day 78: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.628 BTC
     Day 79: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.631 BTC
     Day 80: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.633 BTC
     Day 81: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.635 BTC
     Day 82: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.638 BTC
     Day 83: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.640 BTC
     Day 84: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.246M, 0.642 BTC
     Day 85: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.645 BTC
     Day 86: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.647 BTC
     Day 87: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.648 BTC
     Day 88: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.650 BTC
     Day 89: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.652 BTC
     Day 90: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.654 BTC
     Day 91: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.655 BTC
     Day 92: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.657 BTC
     Day 93: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.659 BTC
     Day 94: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.661 BTC
     Day 95: +0.002 BTC, Difficulty: 46499.964M, 0.663 BTC
     Day 96: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.664 BTC
     Day 97: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.666 BTC
     Day 98: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.667 BTC
     Day 99: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.668 BTC
     Day 100: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.670 BTC
     Day 101: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.671 BTC
     Day 102: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.672 BTC
     Day 103: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.674 BTC
     Day 104: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.675 BTC
     Day 105: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.676 BTC
     Day 106: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 61379.953M, 0.678 BTC
     Day 107: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.679 BTC
     Day 108: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.680 BTC
     Day 109: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.681 BTC
     Day 110: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.682 BTC
     Day 111: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.683 BTC
     Day 112: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.684 BTC
     Day 113: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.685 BTC
     Day 114: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.686 BTC
     Day 115: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.687 BTC
     Day 116: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 81021.538M, 0.688 BTC
     Day 117: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.689 BTC
     Day 118: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.690 BTC
     Day 119: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.691 BTC
     Day 120: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.691 BTC
     Day 121: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.692 BTC
     Day 122: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.693 BTC
     Day 123: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.694 BTC
     Day 124: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.695 BTC
     Day 125: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.695 BTC
     Day 126: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.696 BTC
     Day 127: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 106948.430M, 0.697 BTC
     Day 128: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.698 BTC
     Day 129: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.698 BTC
     Day 130: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.699 BTC
     Day 131: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.699 BTC
     Day 132: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.700 BTC
     Day 133: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.700 BTC
     Day 134: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.701 BTC
     Day 135: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.702 BTC
     Day 136: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.702 BTC
     Day 137: +0.001 BTC, Difficulty: 141171.928M, 0.703 BTC
     Day 138: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.703 BTC
     Day 139: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.704 BTC
     Day 140: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.704 BTC
     Day 141: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.705 BTC
     Day 142: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.705 BTC
     Day 143: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.706 BTC
     Day 144: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.706 BTC
     Day 145: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.707 BTC
     Day 146: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.707 BTC
     Day 147: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.707 BTC
     Day 148: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 186346.945M, 0.708 BTC
     Day 149: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.708 BTC
     Day 150: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.709 BTC
     Day 151: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.709 BTC
     Day 152: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.709 BTC
     Day 153: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.710 BTC
     Day 154: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.710 BTC
     Day 155: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.710 BTC
     Day 156: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.711 BTC
     Day 157: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.711 BTC
     Day 158: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.711 BTC
     Day 159: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 245977.967M, 0.712 BTC
     Day 160: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.712 BTC
     Day 161: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.712 BTC
     Day 162: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.712 BTC
     Day 163: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.713 BTC
     Day 164: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.713 BTC
     Day 165: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.713 BTC
     Day 166: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.713 BTC
     Day 167: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.714 BTC
     Day 168: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.714 BTC
     Day 169: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 324690.916M, 0.714 BTC
     Day 170: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.714 BTC
     Day 171: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.715 BTC
     Day 172: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.715 BTC
     Day 173: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.715 BTC
     Day 174: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.715 BTC
     Day 175: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.715 BTC
     Day 176: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.716 BTC
     Day 177: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.716 BTC
     Day 178: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.716 BTC
     Day 179: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.716 BTC
     Day 180: +0.000 BTC, Difficulty: 428592.009M, 0.716 BTC

    TOTAL RETURN (BTC) : 0.71642371

    TOTAL RETURN (USD) : 608.96

    TOTAL ELECTRICITY (KWH) : 0.0

    TOTAL ELECTRICITY COST (USD) : 0.00

    EQUIPMENT / CONTRACT COST (USD) : 552.50

    TOTAL PROFIT (USD) : 56.46

      *** default change of 1.32 was used for this report ***






newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 254
Can the haters please leave Hashceaser84 alone?  He has been nothing but honest.  Maybe the investment will turn shitty, maybe not; but he is offering a pre-order in the most on-time system around and it seems pretty fair for those of us who are willing to take a chance.

FWIW, January shipments have begun on time TODAY so all of you predicting April can eat your words:

http://cointerra.com/pr-cointerra-begins-shipment-terraminer-iv-worlds-fastest-bitcoin-miner/

That is pretty good reason to believe that February shipments will be one time too.  Cointerra is ahead of everyone else.

Of course its still a risk, but a February or early March delivery and this miner should return ROI.  Assuming that difficulty continues to increase at the current rate of 1.32 every 2 weeks, and BTC price stays constant at about 850/$US, the difficult in one month will be 3.288e9 and the ROI will be 200% after only 90 days:

For these values ...

     MHash : 2000000.0
     Difficulty : 3.822E9
     Days : 90
     Change : 1.32
     Watt : 1000.0
     Electricity cost (USD/kwh) : 0.15
     USD/BTC rate : 850.0
     Equipment / contract (USD): 5999.0

You can expect ...

     Day 1: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 0.526 BTC
     Day 2: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 1.053 BTC
     Day 3: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 1.579 BTC
     Day 4: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 2.105 BTC
     Day 5: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 2.632 BTC
     Day 6: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 3.158 BTC
     Day 7: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 3.684 BTC
     Day 8: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 4.211 BTC
     Day 9: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 4.737 BTC
     Day 10: +0.526 BTC, Difficulty: 3822.000M, 5.263 BTC
     Day 11: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 5.739 BTC
     Day 12: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 6.138 BTC
     Day 13: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 6.536 BTC
     Day 14: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 6.935 BTC
     Day 15: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 7.334 BTC
     Day 16: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 7.733 BTC
     Day 17: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 8.131 BTC
     Day 18: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 8.530 BTC
     Day 19: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 8.929 BTC
     Day 20: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 9.328 BTC
     Day 21: +0.399 BTC, Difficulty: 5045.040M, 9.726 BTC
     Day 22: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 10.049 BTC
     Day 23: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 10.351 BTC
     Day 24: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 10.653 BTC
     Day 25: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 10.955 BTC
     Day 26: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 11.257 BTC
     Day 27: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 11.559 BTC
     Day 28: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 11.861 BTC
     Day 29: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 12.163 BTC
     Day 30: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 12.465 BTC
     Day 31: +0.302 BTC, Difficulty: 6659.453M, 12.767 BTC
     Day 32: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 13.056 BTC
     Day 33: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 13.285 BTC
     Day 34: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 13.514 BTC
     Day 35: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 13.743 BTC
     Day 36: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 13.972 BTC
     Day 37: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 14.201 BTC
     Day 38: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 14.429 BTC
     Day 39: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 14.658 BTC
     Day 40: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 14.887 BTC
     Day 41: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 15.116 BTC
     Day 42: +0.229 BTC, Difficulty: 8790.478M, 15.345 BTC
     Day 43: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 15.542 BTC
     Day 44: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 15.715 BTC
     Day 45: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 15.889 BTC
     Day 46: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 16.062 BTC
     Day 47: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 16.235 BTC
     Day 48: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 16.409 BTC
     Day 49: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 16.582 BTC
     Day 50: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 16.755 BTC
     Day 51: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 16.929 BTC
     Day 52: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 17.102 BTC
     Day 53: +0.173 BTC, Difficulty: 11603.431M, 17.276 BTC
     Day 54: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 17.408 BTC
     Day 55: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 17.540 BTC
     Day 56: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 17.671 BTC
     Day 57: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 17.802 BTC
     Day 58: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 17.934 BTC
     Day 59: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 18.065 BTC
     Day 60: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 18.196 BTC
     Day 61: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 18.328 BTC
     Day 62: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 18.459 BTC
     Day 63: +0.131 BTC, Difficulty: 15316.528M, 18.590 BTC
     Day 64: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 18.710 BTC
     Day 65: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 18.810 BTC
     Day 66: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 18.909 BTC
     Day 67: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 19.009 BTC
     Day 68: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 19.108 BTC
     Day 69: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 19.208 BTC
     Day 70: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 19.307 BTC
     Day 71: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 19.407 BTC
     Day 72: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 19.506 BTC
     Day 73: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 19.606 BTC
     Day 74: +0.099 BTC, Difficulty: 20217.817M, 19.705 BTC
     Day 75: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 19.787 BTC
     Day 76: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 19.862 BTC
     Day 77: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 19.938 BTC
     Day 78: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 20.013 BTC
     Day 79: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 20.088 BTC
     Day 80: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 20.164 BTC
     Day 81: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 20.239 BTC
     Day 82: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 20.315 BTC
     Day 83: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 20.390 BTC
     Day 84: +0.075 BTC, Difficulty: 26687.519M, 20.465 BTC
     Day 85: +0.057 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 20.538 BTC
     Day 86: +0.057 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 20.595 BTC
     Day 87: +0.057 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 20.652 BTC
     Day 88: +0.057 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 20.709 BTC
     Day 89: +0.057 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 20.767 BTC
     Day 90: +0.057 BTC, Difficulty: 35227.525M, 20.824 BTC

    TOTAL RETURN (BTC) : 20.82370458

    TOTAL RETURN (USD) : 17700.15

    TOTAL ELECTRICITY (KWH) : 2160.0

    TOTAL ELECTRICITY COST (USD) : 324.00

    EQUIPMENT / CONTRACT COST (USD) : 5999.00

    TOTAL PROFIT (USD) : 11377.15

      *** default change of 1.32 was used for this report ***
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
OMG! Isn't that the idea, that we make several group buy's, in order to invest the money in btc? Here in germany the power is very expensive. At the moment I'm mining, but the ROI is getting lower and lower. I don't have the money for big miners with less power consumption. So, I invest in this and other group buy's and hope that Hashcesar84 and the other guys have future business plans than only for one time.

Cheers,

Thomas

Hello,

let go of your worries, just 3 days and we are in February, miners could arrive in any moment and I will set up it immediatly.

In cointerra's forum they talk about a delay of less of 1 month in January's batch and they told they will send an addictional terraminer of 2TH/s (March batch) for any miner ordered for January. Theoretically Febrary batch will be on time, if not, I'm sure that they will give me 2 addictional miners probably April Batch. I will share both with customers as percentage writen in the topic.

I'm convinced that, if delivery will be on time, this group buy will get a good ROI and easy.

Regards

Almost NOTHING in this post is true.

How the hell could they deliver February orders BEFORE January?  January orders are at best, WEEKS out.  You will not see a Feb order until April and even that is being optimistic.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
OMG! Isn't that the idea, that we make several group buy's, in order to invest the money in btc? Here in germany the power is very expensive. At the moment I'm mining, but the ROI is getting lower and lower. I don't have the money for big miners with less power consumption. So, I invest in this and other group buy's and hope that Hashcesar84 and the other guys have future business plans than only for one time.

Cheers,

Thomas

Hello,

let go of your worries, just 3 days and we are in February, miners could arrive in any moment and I will set up it immediatly.

In cointerra's forum they talk about a delay of less of 1 month in January's batch and they told they will send an addictional terraminer of 2TH/s (March batch) for any miner ordered for January. Theoretically Febrary batch will be on time, if not, I'm sure that they will give me 2 addictional miners probably April Batch. I will share both with customers as percentage writen in the topic.

I'm convinced that, if delivery will be on time, this group buy will get a good ROI and easy.

Regards
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