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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 09, 2024, 12:53:05 PM

I agree with you in as much as it could be a way to distract their mind from traumatic experiences they are going through daily it doesn't change the fact that some might fall into the addictive side of it which might cause potential harm to them, soldiers deal with a lot of things, and If gambling addiction becomes part of the list of problems they have then it might result in a deep psychology issue

Honestly. It's hard to think from the outside on how traumatic military lifestyle is especially if you're living a comfortable life as a civilian either extravagantly or averagely. Joining the military and living a regimented life can be often traumatic. It becomes difficult and worse when you are meant to experience wars. The trauma in participating in communal conflicts or wars as well as some peacekeeping missions require a lot of courage to survive. This is why gambling can really come into play in this sense whereby they can use that moment of playing gambles to past times and unwind the stress that comes with their job description.

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Quote from: Fiatless on June 24, 2024, 12:48:28 AM

Eight Hundred years ago King Richard enacted a law that restricted his soldiers from gambling during wartime. This was because it was observed that soldiers used gambling to overcome the stress of war.

If gambling has been identified as a means of wavering war stress away, then why should the soldiers be denied of the access to gambling in other to make it serve as a compensate for their embattling war challenges and stress, though i won't be surprised also seeing that in military, there are many stone hearted being whereby they don't mind or care about anything concerning human feelings when it comes to war and their zombie soldier affairs..

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 09, 2024, 12:53:05 PM

Quote from: Poker Player on June 24, 2024, 01:02:20 AM

I guess when you're in constant danger of death, seeing that a few of your teammates are already dead or injured you look for anything to distract you. Also common is the use of drugs, anything they can get their hands on.

The banning thing, I don't know. I imagine that if they get out alive on top of having gambling debts it could be catastrophic. Post-traumatic stress and being bankrupt can leave them with serious psychiatric problems and some with the desire to commit suicide.

It is a complex problem.

I agree with you in as much as it could be a way to distract their mind from traumatic experiences they are going through daily it doesn't change the fact that some might fall into the addictive side of it which might cause potential harm to them, soldiers deal with a lot of things, and If gambling addiction becomes part of the list of problems they have then it might result in a deep psychology issue

Yes, so there is something to worry about when gambling is made as an option to divert attention from trauma and stress in a war situation where it is very possible that in the end the idea of making gambling a way to relieve stress will eventually cause or add to their problems. Gambling is full of things that look tempting which indirectly can really make someone fall into it without realizing it, especially when seeing the big wins produced by other people.

So if there are other options that have a more minimal risk, then of course make that an option and ignore gambling. I just hope that they can first consider the various bad possibilities that can happen when gambling is made as an option before making a final decision.

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Quote from: Poker Player on June 24, 2024, 01:02:20 AM

I guess when you're in constant danger of death, seeing that a few of your teammates are already dead or injured you look for anything to distract you. Also common is the use of drugs, anything they can get their hands on.

The banning thing, I don't know. I imagine that if they get out alive on top of having gambling debts it could be catastrophic. Post-traumatic stress and being bankrupt can leave them with serious psychiatric problems and some with the desire to commit suicide.

It is a complex problem.

I agree with you in as much as it could be a way to distract their mind from traumatic experiences they are going through daily it doesn't change the fact that some might fall into the addictive side of it which might cause potential harm to them, soldiers deal with a lot of things, and If gambling addiction becomes part of the list of problems they have then it might result in a deep psychology issue

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 08, 2024, 12:07:02 PM

That's actually what gambling is supposed to be for, it's should be played to ease stress and be a fun activity.. soldiers go through a lot of things that are quite traumatizing, they need something to get their mind off those things sometimes, engaging in fun activities can ease their stress But if gambling becomes an addiction to a soldier it might become a problem, their job requires 100 percent focus, once you get addicted to gambling your attention becomes divided and this isn't good for the nature of their job

They think that getting involved in some activities like sports and gambling helps their minds relax and divert. It was not just for the stress but also to help them not miss their families and life outside the camp too much.

With limited time spent gambling, I don't see it leading to addiction but just for fun and leisure. Overall, the impact of gambling couldn't affect their job negatively; instead, it refreshed their minds and helped them regain focus after a break. Besides, they are not into war all the time, and this kind of activity makes them think that they are still living a normal life like other people do.

For me they are the one prohibited on gambling since those reasons like for not missing their family or ease their boredom is just a lame excuse.

They are armed personnel and for provably that there's imaginable things will happen if those people will get addicted to what gambling games they are playing. Those people is high risk and capable to do crime that's why to avoid experiencing horrible condition much better for their leaders to penalize their people who engage in this activities.

They should focus on current battle they are on and also there's lot of things they could do to eliminate their boredom.

My major concern is the fact that these soldiers are incurring more debts upon themselves when they are supposed to be focused on why they are there in the first place. This does not show that they have been gambling responsibly and we all know what compulsive gambling does to an individual. It is very necessary for the gambling activities of these soldiers to be restricted so they can channel their energies to other hobbies which will also give them the strength to stay focused. Gambling is not the only activity soldiers can do to stay excited and distract themselves from the ugly sides of their job, they should channel that same energy to something else.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 08, 2024, 11:44:23 AM

I won't go that far like you are giving the orders.
Yes, they have a duty but let's face it, they are not paid enough for risking their lives so let's somehow give them space for their entertainment too. How sad is it to be far away from your family and with nothing to entertain you while you are in your younger years?
If gambling could provide that, then why not? These are discipline people and I highly doubt gambling addiction will infect them. Just because they are soldiers doesn't mean they are not humans. They have their needs too and I think a bit of entertainment will do just fine as long as they can still keep their country safe.

You said it yourself that although they are soldiers doesn't mean they are not humans.
This is the reason why I said that gambling might infect some of them since they are humans too.
But I also agree to your point that they are disciplined people and gambling addiction can be prevented if we are disciplined.
As far as they are not getting addicted I guess it's okay for them to gamble after all.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on June 24, 2024, 01:30:17 AM

Soldiers should have the freedom to do what ever they like just like the civilians. If civilians are allowed to gamble why shouldn't soldiers be gambling. What I just think is that they should start or increase gambling education among soldiers in the country. They should not ban soldiers from gambling.

But it is not easy to ban people from gambling. If they ban soldiers from gambling, some soldiers will still find one way or more ways to gamble.

Having them have such freedom in gambling it's just like letting a prisoned captive out of the bag and you know what the outcome will be like,it will be more dangerous out there, having much stress from field work doesn't literally mean gambling solves or calms it it rather develop a more outrageous problems,just imagine when normal person's gamble and become addicted to it and talk more of a soldier,what do you think would be the outcome.

He coming back from a day of stress and decide to gamble to calm it,it's not gonna help the solution but it'll be raised to power of 10 which will eventually lead to him been addicted and when such persons like a solder is addicted he becomes vulnerable to the society and people around him.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 08, 2024, 12:07:02 PM

That's actually what gambling is supposed to be for, it's should be played to ease stress and be a fun activity.. soldiers go through a lot of things that are quite traumatizing, they need something to get their mind off those things sometimes, engaging in fun activities can ease their stress But if gambling becomes an addiction to a soldier it might become a problem, their job requires 100 percent focus, once you get addicted to gambling your attention becomes divided and this isn't good for the nature of their job

They think that getting involved in some activities like sports and gambling helps their minds relax and divert. It was not just for the stress but also to help them not miss their families and life outside the camp too much.

With limited time spent gambling, I don't see it leading to addiction but just for fun and leisure. Overall, the impact of gambling couldn't affect their job negatively; instead, it refreshed their minds and helped them regain focus after a break. Besides, they are not into war all the time, and this kind of activity makes them think that they are still living a normal life like other people do.

For me they are the one prohibited on gambling since those reasons like for not missing their family or ease their boredom is just a lame excuse.

They are armed personnel and for provably that there's imaginable things will happen if those people will get addicted to what gambling games they are playing. Those people is high risk and capable to do crime that's why to avoid experiencing horrible condition much better for their leaders to penalize their people who engage in this activities.

They should focus on current battle they are on and also there's lot of things they could do to eliminate their boredom.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 08, 2024, 12:07:02 PM

That's actually what gambling is supposed to be for, it's should be played to ease stress and be a fun activity.. soldiers go through a lot of things that are quite traumatizing, they need something to get their mind off those things sometimes, engaging in fun activities can ease their stress But if gambling becomes an addiction to a soldier it might become a problem, their job requires 100 percent focus, once you get addicted to gambling your attention becomes divided and this isn't good for the nature of their job

They think that getting involved in some activities like sports and gambling helps their minds relax and divert. It was not just for the stress but also to help them not miss their families and life outside the camp too much.

With limited time spent gambling, I don't see it leading to addiction but just for fun and leisure. Overall, the impact of gambling couldn't affect their job negatively; instead, it refreshed their minds and helped them regain focus after a break. Besides, they are not into war all the time, and this kind of activity makes them think that they are still living a normal life like other people do.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on August 09, 2024, 06:05:42 AM

Mental breakdown on the battlefield can be one of the main reasons for losing a war, so the military has special forms of entertainment of which gambling can be one of the forms of entertainment. In war, drinking and singing could be another major source of entertainment. Mentally broken troops will become disillusioned in battle, which is why governments in many countries legalize gambling for soldiers.

Gambling can go wrong if use as form of entertainment by person with emotional distress like soldiers at war. Drinking and other form of entertainment that doesn’t subject to losses is much better compared to gambling which we all know that there’s a high chance of losing due to house edge.

I believe gambling is now banned to soldiers like Ukraine since it affects the mind of soldiers and making them distracted which is a disadvantage with their job. But I bet there’s still a lot of soldiers playing hidden since online casino is pretty accessible to everyone. They can spin or place a bet anytime they want.

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Mental breakdown on the battlefield can be one of the main reasons for losing a war, so the military has special forms of entertainment of which gambling can be one of the forms of entertainment. In war, drinking and singing could be another major source of entertainment. Mentally broken troops will become disillusioned in battle, which is why governments in many countries legalize gambling for soldiers.

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As always, politicians interfere in what people like to do. If a citizen wants to play, bet, or gamble online, they should be free to decide whether it is good or bad, not the government.

As for stress, everyone has their own way of dealing with it. I see it this way: it is necessary to have some kind of hobby that is completely different from your work. This helps to keep your mind healthier. Now, it is up to the person themselves to decide this, not the government.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 08, 2024, 12:07:02 PM

Quote from: Fiatless on June 24, 2024, 12:48:28 AM

Eight Hundred years ago King Richard enacted a law that restricted his soldiers from gambling during wartime. This was because it was observed that soldiers used gambling to overcome the stress of war.

Recently Ukrainian Pavlo Petrychenko soldier put forward a petition calling on Kyiv to address concerns about gambling among its battle-worn soldiers. Online gambling and access to mobile phones have made it very easy for soldiers to engage in betting under any condition. His concern was that soldiers were falling into debt; of gambling firms using patriotic-themed advertising and tactics to target soldiers' business, and of possible security threats from Russian casino sites.

His observation was supported by many Ukrainians who signed the petition and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saw the need to control the gambling behavior of soldiers. Ukrainian higher authorities have since ordered officials to ban soldiers from all gambling activities and to put Ukraine's gambling industry under tighter control.

Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-soldiers-gambling-industry-1.7189835

That's actually what gambling is supposed to be for, it's should be played to ease stress and be a fun activity.. soldiers go through a lot of things that are quite traumatizing, they need something to get their mind off those things sometimes, engaging in fun activities can ease their stress But if gambling becomes an addiction to a soldier it might become a problem, their job requires 100 percent focus, once you get addicted to gambling your attention becomes divided and this isn't good for the nature of their job

Yes, that's right. The purpose of gambling is actually to relieve stress and seek pleasure. So actually gambling has no limits, both civilians and soldiers as long as they can gamble responsibly.

Because when talking about addiction, everyone has the potential to become addicted if they have the wrong mindset about gambling and the impact is equally bad between soldiers and civilians losing focus on work so they can't do their jobs properly.

It's just that in my country gambling is not yet legal, so soldiers are prohibited from gambling because they are part of the state and are paid by the state. The risk is not only addiction, but also being fired if caught gambling by their superiors. So it is more appropriate if a soldier is not allowed to gamble, even though stress is still there are many other ways to relieve stress.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 01, 2024, 02:54:57 PM

The last sentence is the key here, if the government behind an army does not want for their soldiers to engage in gambling while being deployed, as it believes it is causing harm to their soldiers, then they need to give them something to alleviate that stress, and if they are incapable of doing so, they should not be surprised they look for their own ways to keep themselves sane in a world that at least from their perspective has gone completely insane.

If soldiers wants to relieves their stress by playing gambling games, that will not works because playing gambling can gives more stresses to their soldiers and that can harm to other people who playing gambling with those soldiers. The government must find the other way to relieves their soldiers stress and not lets their soldiers to playing gambling to relieve their stress.

Soldiers will find their way to alleviate their stress and not from playing gambling. If the government can always reminds those soldiers not to harm themselves and public, those soldiers will not do anything that can makes them in a trouble. Those soldiers wants to keep themselves sane after they back to their family and will do something that will keeps them away from the trouble.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 08, 2024, 12:07:02 PM

Quote from: Fiatless on June 24, 2024, 12:48:28 AM

Eight Hundred years ago King Richard enacted a law that restricted his soldiers from gambling during wartime. This was because it was observed that soldiers used gambling to overcome the stress of war.

Recently Ukrainian Pavlo Petrychenko soldier put forward a petition calling on Kyiv to address concerns about gambling among its battle-worn soldiers. Online gambling and access to mobile phones have made it very easy for soldiers to engage in betting under any condition. His concern was that soldiers were falling into debt; of gambling firms using patriotic-themed advertising and tactics to target soldiers' business, and of possible security threats from Russian casino sites.

His observation was supported by many Ukrainians who signed the petition and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saw the need to control the gambling behavior of soldiers. Ukrainian higher authorities have since ordered officials to ban soldiers from all gambling activities and to put Ukraine's gambling industry under tighter control.

Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-soldiers-gambling-industry-1.7189835

That's actually what gambling is supposed to be for, it's should be played to ease stress and be a fun activity.. soldiers go through a lot of things that are quite traumatizing, they need something to get their mind off those things sometimes, engaging in fun activities can ease their stress But if gambling becomes an addiction to a soldier it might become a problem, their job requires 100 percent focus, once you get addicted to gambling your attention becomes divided and this isn't good for the nature of their job

Yes, gambling can be used as an alternative to overcome stressful situations experienced by someone, and I also understand that surely soldiers who are on the battlefield have quite serious concerns due to being in a tense situation, and maybe yes of course gambling can be used as a distraction to relieve the tension a little.

But one thing, make sure there is no other intention and purpose other than just looking for entertainment, because what I worry about is that they are trying to produce something in gambling outside of pleasure, such as many wins for example, where it is certain that gambling to earn income will actually cause more stress and even worsen the mental and psychological situation in themselves, so this needs to be considered carefully and reconsidered before your decision makes the situation even more tense.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 08, 2024, 11:44:23 AM

I won't go that far like you are giving the orders.
Yes, they have a duty but let's face it, they are not paid enough for risking their lives so let's somehow give them space for their entertainment too. How sad is it to be far away from your family and with nothing to entertain you while you are in your younger years?
If gambling could provide that, then why not? These are discipline people and I highly doubt gambling addiction will infect them. Just because they are soldiers doesn't mean they are not humans. They have their needs too and I think a bit of entertainment will do just fine as long as they can still keep their country safe.

I once heard that a President of a country ordered that girls should be sent to the soldiers to enable them to relax and have a good time after spending several weeks fighting. I have also watched some movies where soldiers organise parties, dance, sing and drink. Yes, their work needs a lot of concentration but they also need time to relax and gambling can make some of them reduce stress. I don't think gambling should be banned but should restricted. They shouldn't be allowed to connect to casinos while they are on duty, but they can have fun when there is no imminent threat. They can restrict their phones from connecting to gambling sites and the blockage can be lifted during their free or leisure time.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 08, 2024, 12:07:02 PM

Quote from: Fiatless on June 24, 2024, 12:48:28 AM

Eight Hundred years ago King Richard enacted a law that restricted his soldiers from gambling during wartime. This was because it was observed that soldiers used gambling to overcome the stress of war.

Recently Ukrainian Pavlo Petrychenko soldier put forward a petition calling on Kyiv to address concerns about gambling among its battle-worn soldiers. Online gambling and access to mobile phones have made it very easy for soldiers to engage in betting under any condition. His concern was that soldiers were falling into debt; of gambling firms using patriotic-themed advertising and tactics to target soldiers' business, and of possible security threats from Russian casino sites.

His observation was supported by many Ukrainians who signed the petition and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saw the need to control the gambling behavior of soldiers. Ukrainian higher authorities have since ordered officials to ban soldiers from all gambling activities and to put Ukraine's gambling industry under tighter control.

Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-soldiers-gambling-industry-1.7189835

That's actually what gambling is supposed to be for, it's should be played to ease stress and be a fun activity.. soldiers go through a lot of things that are quite traumatizing, they need something to get their mind off those things sometimes, engaging in fun activities can ease their stress But if gambling becomes an addiction to a soldier it might become a problem, their job requires 100 percent focus, once you get addicted to gambling your attention becomes divided and this isn't good for the nature of their job

not only this, during the war, very many fraudulent sites appeared that scam money from soldiers, and since they are in a combat zone or in the service, they do not have time to deal with unscrupulous providers. As far as I know, the government of the country will temporarily limit game providers for military personnel during military operations.

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Accessing casino's won't be a big deal for those soldiers if the law permit them to do because online cryptocurrency casino's will give them seemless access to transaction no matter what they location is because of borderless accessibility of cryptocurrency casino, and if the soldiers are able to cure they're anxiety and stress via gambling then they should be allowed to gamble but although at a moderate level, when I first saw this thread, I never know that this thread will receive such audience from forum members but as time passed I have seen that the discussions have gone beyond page's.
But one very important thing is that, those soldiers should be closely monitored to avoid Falling into addictions aside the stress that they are already facing, many times, stress but then if not properly managed the stress can also trigger addictions if not properly monitored.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 08, 2024, 11:44:23 AM

I won't go that far like you are giving the orders.
Yes, they have a duty but let's face it, they are not paid enough for risking their lives so let's somehow give them space for their entertainment too. How sad is it to be far away from your family and with nothing to entertain you while you are in your younger years?
If gambling could provide that, then why not? These are discipline people and I highly doubt gambling addiction will infect them. Just because they are soldiers doesn't mean they are not humans. They have their needs too and I think a bit of entertainment will do just fine as long as they can still keep their country safe.

Gambling doesn't have any limitations of someone or irrespective of your personality being soldier or not but what matters is how long you can control your feelings not to get addicted because I don't think gambling has to do anything that concerns whom you are. If you gamble and becomes addicted it would surely affects them irrespective of whom they are so everyone is advisable to gamble responsibly not to be distracted by the activities or forget themselves to be carried away by gamble activities that is why most government or country restricted their soldiers from gambling to remain focused since gambling could be distractive.

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Quote from: pawanjain on August 08, 2024, 11:12:09 AM

Quote from: Fiatless on June 24, 2024, 12:48:28 AM

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I personally think that soldiers should not be allowed to gamble at first place.
Soldiers are there to protect the country and its people and there should not be anything that should distract them from their duty.
Gambling might not sound like a big deal but it is something that can get anyone addicted easily.
Even if 1 soldier gets addicted or lets say distracted then it might cost lives.
Just imagine a soldier getting late to a place where he should be just because he was playing a game and it ended up enemies getting into their zone and killing someone.

Actually, I don't know what the rules are in each country for their soldiers regarding gambling. Since it is not allowed in my country, so there is no choice but to obey the rules and regulations. Let alone betting, active soldiers are not allowed to visit nightclubs. Imagine, let alone gambling online in a war situation. My point is not about addiction, because they are educated to always be disciplined. However, when on duty in a conflict area, do they still think of gambling/betting even though it is claimed to be able to relieve stress levels? Even what they bet is not only money, but also the lives of many people and the soldiers themselves. For me, this is not a good idea or even does not reflect a truly wise attitude. However, if the choice is for entertainment and not while on duty in a place or area of conflict, maybe it is permissible if it does not conflict with military regulations. Ideally, if soldiers are allowed to gamble, they do it at home. In other words, they are not carrying out official state duties. Because, their priority is to protect the country.

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