Topic: Soldiers using gambling to cope with stress. - page 7. (Read 1219 times)
When comes to entertainment, I think there are endless possibilities for a soldier to find what to do with their spare time... though, entertainment would not be enough for them to heal the scars of war in their minds. After they can find some entertainment which could ease their retirement after they complete their service, then it would be up to the government to get them psychological help.
I have read in the news the European Union has offered their healthcare system to harbor wounded soldiers from the front with the invader. It would take the ministry of health of Ukraine also to include mental healthcare as part of the package to help out those who got traumatized by the war.
I am glad Ukraine count on the European Union as an ally.
That is a dangerous venture to indulge soldiers to gamble to remove stress,that is as a minimum a double edge sword as some soldiers instead of having fun and lowering stress can become even more stressed and can cause damage more than add value to the army so I don't fully agree with this way to cope with stress yet nowadays we are hearing a lot of strange stories from army generals in ongoing wars giving strange orders and this to me is no exception from those strange rules.Anyway if it has proven to be bringing better results then it is a good choice but I would highly doubt this,gambling in most cases brings further stress and I don't think soldiers are rich enough to not care.
It is a tricky and very sensitive topic to talk about soldiers and the mental burden there is on them, because of the stuff they witness everyday and they horror they have to overcome every night. So I believe I would support measures like this one to restrict active combatants from gambling while in the front and also ,I would be in favor of enhancing the access to mental health facilities and services to those who are currently dealing with depression, or trauma because of the thing seen in the front.
Leaving a side note, I would be okey with soldiers who are retired and are back home to have access to gambling and casinos, but after they are psychologically checked and are believed not to suffer from any lingering effect because of the service they gave to their homeland.
I agree with you, Maybe in some cases they need the pleasure of gambling to suppress the mental burden of the tension and horror of military activities, but if talking about gambling being used as a tool for the sole purpose of seeking pleasure and for mental pressure medication it is the wrong thing, if the soldier is an active soldier, yes except as you said, if the soldier is retired then of course he is free to do any activity in his retirement.Leaving a side note, I would be okey with soldiers who are retired and are back home to have access to gambling and casinos, but after they are psychologically checked and are believed not to suffer from any lingering effect because of the service they gave to their homeland.
Speaking more broadly, if gambling is allowed in the military, it will be very dangerous for the soldiers themselves, where people who want to seek pleasure from gambling are only 1 in 100 soldiers, for example, but if gambling is allowed, it will invite other soldiers to gamble, and the consequences received by soldiers will have a lot of thoughts where they have to fight more with the enemy while they are mentally burdened because they lose in gambling.
It is a tricky and very sensitive topic to talk about soldiers and the mental burden there is on them, because of the stuff they witness everyday and they horror they have to overcome every night. So I believe I would support measures like this one to restrict active combatants from gambling while in the front and also ,I would be in favor of enhancing the access to mental health facilities and services to those who are currently dealing with depression, or trauma because of the thing seen in the front.
Leaving a side note, I would be okey with soldiers who are retired and are back home to have access to gambling and casinos, but after they are psychologically checked and are believed not to suffer from any lingering effect because of the service they gave to their homeland.
Restricting while they are in front, I will have to agree with that. But what about the time when they are at rest? What entertainment they could offer to them so that they would forget about the horror of the war? Leaving a side note, I would be okey with soldiers who are retired and are back home to have access to gambling and casinos, but after they are psychologically checked and are believed not to suffer from any lingering effect because of the service they gave to their homeland.
Like the first I suggested here, it's up to the government on what else they could offer to their soldier especially if the country they are living in is at war. Ukraine for example, how many soldiers are there that are now orphans or their brothers gone because of the war? Without anyone to talk to during a break, I think soldiers want their minds to be on something else and gambling is an entertaining thing that might help out.
You are absolutely right, in support of your words, I recently saw an article saying that the governments of all countries at all times paid very little attention to the rehabilitation of the mental state of those who participated in armed conflicts. It's very sad, and it shouldn't be like this.
After all, for the military, life continues after the war, in a peaceful territory, and their condition must be satisfactory in order to continue leading a normal life. I hope that governments will pay more attention to this problem, because people with post-war syndrome are bad for the rest of the people they live next to.
It is a tricky and very sensitive topic to talk about soldiers and the mental burden there is on them, because of the stuff they witness everyday and they horror they have to overcome every night. So I believe I would support measures like this one to restrict active combatants from gambling while in the front and also ,I would be in favor of enhancing the access to mental health facilities and services to those who are currently dealing with depression, or trauma because of the thing seen in the front.
Leaving a side note, I would be okey with soldiers who are retired and are back home to have access to gambling and casinos, but after they are psychologically checked and are believed not to suffer from any lingering effect because of the service they gave to their homeland.
Restricting while they are in front, I will have to agree with that. But what about the time when they are at rest? What entertainment they could offer to them so that they would forget about the horror of the war? Leaving a side note, I would be okey with soldiers who are retired and are back home to have access to gambling and casinos, but after they are psychologically checked and are believed not to suffer from any lingering effect because of the service they gave to their homeland.
Like the first I suggested here, it's up to the government on what else they could offer to their soldier especially if the country they are living in is at war. Ukraine for example, how many soldiers are there that are now orphans or their brothers gone because of the war? Without anyone to talk to during a break, I think soldiers want their minds to be on something else and gambling is an entertaining thing that might help out.
Usually when caught in the act, soldiers only receive warnings and relatively light punishments because sometimes these are acts that can be tolerated, they have devoted and practiced so much to serve their country, soldiers appreciate discipline and their stress levels are also far higher than normal people, especially in a training camp that lacks entertainment, light forms like gambling, maybe a little alcohol to relieve stress are not really serious. Soldiers do not abuse gambling, they simply look for a smile after the dizzying times between life and death.
Gambling is often used by soldiers as a place to find fun, but those who play must still be able to control their emotions so they remain calm and do not need to get angry or be taken into training or war. Because it can interfere with the focus that must be used when in the field. Apart from gambling, sometimes this soldier really likes playing with women in bars. But when faced with an ongoing battle, these soldiers could not remain calm like that. They must focus on the tasks given in the field to complete their mission.
It is a tricky and very sensitive topic to talk about soldiers and the mental burden there is on them, because of the stuff they witness everyday and they horror they have to overcome every night. So I believe I would support measures like this one to restrict active combatants from gambling while in the front and also ,I would be in favor of enhancing the access to mental health facilities and services to those who are currently dealing with depression, or trauma because of the thing seen in the front.
Leaving a side note, I would be okey with soldiers who are retired and are back home to have access to gambling and casinos, but after they are psychologically checked and are believed not to suffer from any lingering effect because of the service they gave to their homeland.
Leaving a side note, I would be okey with soldiers who are retired and are back home to have access to gambling and casinos, but after they are psychologically checked and are believed not to suffer from any lingering effect because of the service they gave to their homeland.
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bahahaha..... For the fact that a certain platoon of soldiers are deployed to a particular warzone doesn't keep them fighting war day and night. They normally have resting periods - a time to eat, sleep, pray and watch entertaining sessions and movies just like you do. Only that all of this is done in turns to keep the coast safe from invaders.-snip-
Gambling isnt really that bad as long you are really that putting it on the right time and on the right moment on which you wouldnt really be just that playing around when you are on duty.
Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?
Along the ages, soldiers have been used to cope with stress through different mechanisms such as cigarettes, alcohol and gambling. All these practices can lead to addiction, but it doesn't mean it's going to lead to addiction in every cases or even in most cases. War zones are chaotic places where fear, uncertainty and anger walk side by side with death. So the last of the issues you are going to worry is if there should be any restrictions regards gambling practice on the battlefront.Those soldiers are surviving each day as it could be the last. If gambling can help them coping with this terrible sensation they feel 24 hours every day, let it be! It's not the ideal scenario, therefore don't expect ideal practices or solutions too.
At first if the country doesn't restricts soldiers from gambling then it's not bad gamble when they are at free zone and free time maybe should apply all technicalities not the get addicted into it. The main reason I should say that soldiers shouldn't gamble is to remain vigilant at their zone otherwise they could be easily being decieved by their activities online while gambling to increase their chances of higher payout which I think is a bad habits at the first place. The best is to restrict every military personnel to stop and quit gambling and anyone caught gambling should be sack from duty in order for others to learn a serious lesson.
Usually when caught in the act, soldiers only receive warnings and relatively light punishments because sometimes these are acts that can be tolerated, they have devoted and practiced so much to serve their country, soldiers appreciate discipline and their stress levels are also far higher than normal people, especially in a training camp that lacks entertainment, light forms like gambling, maybe a little alcohol to relieve stress are not really serious. Soldiers do not abuse gambling, they simply look for a smile after the dizzying times between life and death.
At first if the country doesn't restricts soldiers from gambling then it's not bad gamble when they are at free zone and free time maybe should apply all technicalities not the get addicted into it. The main reason I should say that soldiers shouldn't gamble is to remain vigilant at their zone otherwise they could be easily being decieved by their activities online while gambling to increase their chances of higher payout which I think is a bad habits at the first place. The best is to restrict every military personnel to stop and quit gambling and anyone caught gambling should be sack from duty in order for others to learn a serious lesson.
Usually when caught in the act, soldiers only receive warnings and relatively light punishments because sometimes these are acts that can be tolerated, they have devoted and practiced so much to serve their country, soldiers appreciate discipline and their stress levels are also far higher than normal people, especially in a training camp that lacks entertainment, light forms like gambling, maybe a little alcohol to relieve stress are not really serious. Soldiers do not abuse gambling, they simply look for a smile after the dizzying times between life and death. 
In the war front and after sometimes when the war as subsided for about one week with firing then soldiers used that period to have fun and gamble is something that is inbuilt and nobody can stop it except the person himself. And when soldiers are playing games, then they are using to douse their stress and also using not to forget some memories.
As for me soldiers having fun with games is necessary because it the process of excitement they forget many memories in the battle field.
As for me soldiers having fun with games is necessary because it the process of excitement they forget many memories in the battle field.
This is cruel, they are allowed to kill, they are in the war to die and they can't even make decisions about their gambling lifestyle?
If war is legal why gambling isn't legal for them? that's nonsense. But is interesting to think about a soldier gambler's mind, someone who has nothing to lose, someone who can die tomorrow, what would he chase on the casino? for sure he plays with YOLO bets. And the main question is, what would happen if he gets a crazy win? would he quit war or quit gambling?
War is even illegal according to the views of the majority because it can cause a lot of damage including lost of lives. Those who do it are only selfish, although before, they can have more sense because people on the past like to dominate someone else territory. Gambling is invented long time ago and even before, many people already see it as a bad thing, so there are now restrictions in regards to it.If war is legal why gambling isn't legal for them? that's nonsense. But is interesting to think about a soldier gambler's mind, someone who has nothing to lose, someone who can die tomorrow, what would he chase on the casino? for sure he plays with YOLO bets. And the main question is, what would happen if he gets a crazy win? would he quit war or quit gambling?
Soldiers can actually lose something and that was mainly their lives. They can as well lose money by the time they play gambling but yeah that they may like doing risky bets not only because they can die at any moment but they are also known to have a strong personality. For the question after they win huge, I think it has nothing to do with quitting their service as a soldier but that can surely gave them hours and hours of fun and their family, friends, etc.. can also benefit from it.
It's quite strange for soldiers to relieve stress in this way. I think the government could, at the regulatory level, limit access to online games where hostilities are taking place. If gambling is a stress reliever, then I have to say it's a weird way to do it. Most people lose in casinos and sports betting. In fact, there will be a growing number of game addicts among the soldiers. On the other hand, I know that many gambling addicts specifically sign up as volunteers and go to the front to escape debt. Or escape from addiction. And then it turns out that they won’t succeed.
It is very unfair to treat soldiers like servants who must submit to their masters. They have sacrificed everything for their country, time to be with their families, freedom like civilians and the biggest sacrifice is their most precious life. Being in a remote area or in a place where war is breaking out will make them stressed and traumatized because their friends have been injured and some have died. They need to find entertainment to relieve stress and depression resulting from being in the area between life and death.
During wartime, their time for gambling is very limited, they spend more time monitoring conditions around their area to ensure safety. Gambling will not have a big impact on their performance, anyone will try to maintain boundaries that cannot be violated, especially if they are in an area where security levels are very vulnerable. The government must be wiser in responding to their condition, let them seek entertainment to relieve stress during wartime.
During wartime, their time for gambling is very limited, they spend more time monitoring conditions around their area to ensure safety. Gambling will not have a big impact on their performance, anyone will try to maintain boundaries that cannot be violated, especially if they are in an area where security levels are very vulnerable. The government must be wiser in responding to their condition, let them seek entertainment to relieve stress during wartime.
Eight Hundred years ago King Richard enacted a law that restricted his soldiers from gambling during wartime. This was because it was observed that soldiers used gambling to overcome the stress of war.
Recently Ukrainian Pavlo Petrychenko soldier put forward a petition calling on Kyiv to address concerns about gambling among its battle-worn soldiers. Online gambling and access to mobile phones have made it very easy for soldiers to engage in betting under any condition. His concern was that soldiers were falling into debt; of gambling firms using patriotic-themed advertising and tactics to target soldiers' business, and of possible security threats from Russian casino sites.
His observation was supported by many Ukrainians who signed the petition and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saw the need to control the gambling behavior of soldiers. Ukrainian higher authorities have since ordered officials to ban soldiers from all gambling activities and to put Ukraine's gambling industry under tighter control.
Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-soldiers-gambling-industry-1.7189835
Recently Ukrainian Pavlo Petrychenko soldier put forward a petition calling on Kyiv to address concerns about gambling among its battle-worn soldiers. Online gambling and access to mobile phones have made it very easy for soldiers to engage in betting under any condition. His concern was that soldiers were falling into debt; of gambling firms using patriotic-themed advertising and tactics to target soldiers' business, and of possible security threats from Russian casino sites.
His observation was supported by many Ukrainians who signed the petition and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saw the need to control the gambling behavior of soldiers. Ukrainian higher authorities have since ordered officials to ban soldiers from all gambling activities and to put Ukraine's gambling industry under tighter control.
Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-soldiers-gambling-industry-1.7189835
I very much doubt that was the reason and it makes more sense that it was to stop infighting or friction within the ranks. You want as much unity as possible between your soldiers. If you're in battle you don't want any animosity that might cause people to fight less hard - people feeling bad they owe large amounts of money, would you want to save the guy next to you if you owe them 10k, or if you had a bad night previously you might be unfocused on the battle ahead. Stress of war does not seem applicable in the same way that you are suggesting. It seems sensible to restrict it, they can do that when they leave or in any casual free time they get.
Soldiers are common people and if gambling reliefs their hard times why we should blame them. I know that very often soldiers are betting between themselves on better results at the firing area, at conditioning course, etc.. Betting is a nature of human being, nothing to say more.
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At first, I just wanted to relieve stress but then losing money became more stressful, it didn't even solve the problem.
Actually, if gambling is only done on their group and not on online gambling, it is still quite good.
Such as gambling on poker games with the bet on biscuits or food they have, so this is only internal gambling between friends.
If gambling extends on online games, or after they are not on duty, it will really mess them up.
Gambling is not really good and will not relieve stress just like that.
I feels that too because I have the same experienced as you. We can try to limits our money that we will use to playing gambling and trying not to use more money. When we already lose the money, we must quit gambling and leave the casino so we don't have to feels more stressful. Actually, if gambling is only done on their group and not on online gambling, it is still quite good.
Such as gambling on poker games with the bet on biscuits or food they have, so this is only internal gambling between friends.
If gambling extends on online games, or after they are not on duty, it will really mess them up.
Gambling is not really good and will not relieve stress just like that.
We must control ourselves when playing gambling so we can prevents the big lose or feels more stressful because gambling is just for having fun. We don't have to keeps playing gambling, especially if we already lose the money because if we keeps playing gambling, we can lose more money and that will not be good for us. Our minds can asks us to keeps playing gambling to recover the lost money in gambling so we will forget our limitations and not obey our rules. That's why we must learn self control to holds ourselves from keeps playing gambling.
Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?
For some time now, I have noticed the issuance of strange laws by the Ukrainian authorities in an attempt to seek what they believe to be support for their military capabilities in war. A few months ago, laws were issued imposing compulsory conscription on prisoners, including prisoners in criminal cases, on the condition that the criminal does not kill more than two people, which I find to be one of the most strange measures because a criminal cannot be a reliable soldier. Now a law is being issued prohibiting soldiers from gambling on the grounds that this law will protect them from the risk of debt.
I think that these laws indicate the weakness of the Ukrainian military structure and the inability of the authorities to keep up with the context of battles that have become clear that they are exhausting the state and that all attempts to support it by its allies have been of no avail.
I haven't been into a war and I don't know what they do in times that they're off the battlefields.
If this is one way for them to remove their stress, all they wanna do is to take some time for themselves to at least forget that they're inside a battlefield.
I think that it's already out of our thoughts whichever they do for themselves while they are off-duty.
I'm okay with this to be honest if that's going to help them mentally for the meantime.
If this is one way for them to remove their stress, all they wanna do is to take some time for themselves to at least forget that they're inside a battlefield.
I think that it's already out of our thoughts whichever they do for themselves while they are off-duty.
I'm okay with this to be honest if that's going to help them mentally for the meantime.
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