Topic: Soldiers using gambling to cope with stress. - page 9. (Read 1219 times)

seriously this happens in12 century and you have find that still? what a big help from internet these days lol.

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restricting Soldier to gamble is not right but restricting them to gamble while in the line of service(e.g war) is a must because this will also divert their minds and their strategy when they either win or lose.

so better to not let them gamble then.

I understand what you mean but the information I am trying to pass is that they need therapy for more than just gambling addiction. It is not all soldiers who gamble that will become addicted. Soldiers who have gone to war need therapy for many psychological issues they may face. It differs from one soldier to another. But most of them would suffer from at least one of the psychological issues. They include: PTSD, depression, anxiety disorders, traumatic brain injury (TBI), substance abuse, sleep disorders, anger and irritability, grief and loss, suicidal ideation and behavior, family and relationship problems. The type of therapies could range from CBT, interpersonal therapy (IPT), exposure therapy, stress therapy, psychotherapy, anger management programs, dialectical behavior therapy (DBT). Some of these types of therapy also go hand in hand with medications.

Therapy is recommended for gambling addicts and not responsible gamblers. The soldiers who the authority have confirmed are having gambling disorders should go through the process while others should be counseled. They need to know the consequences of their actions if it is not controlled.

The government can also decide to place a benchmark on the amount they can place on bets. Their salary accounts can be restricted to a percentage that can be used for gambling. They will be barred from placing bets after they have reached their maximum. This can help control their gambling activities. It is important to control these soldier's gambling activities because there is life after war. If they don't save money for the future, it might contribute to post-war trauma. Dealing with maybe disability, financial problems and nightmares can lead to something terrible.

It is true that they are having fun while gambling but it could also be that this type of fun may be at the expense of their finances. The income of soldiers are small and unless their gambling doesn't involve a financial component, I'd still be on the side of the debate that they should be involve in other types of stress relieving activities.

What some soldiers actually need is therapy and all-round support from the military. I understand how difficult their job is because I have been around them however getting hooked on gambling or some other addiction due of bored will be detrimental to their performance on or off the battlefield and it will prevent them from growing in the ranks. I know I don't want addict as my commanding officer or leader of my platoon.

Army is form of government agency in country with the authority to be responsible for the defense and security of the country itself, of course they have rules and regulations that must always be obeyed because basically their legal basis is the law.
If there is prohibition, however, it must always be obeyed and their obligation is to maintain every regulation so that no violations occur.

But basically the rules cannot be completely obeyed in their entirety and many certain individuals make mistakes by breaking them, but not all of them will commit these violations.
Regarding gambling, even though there is ban on soldiers, I sure that some of them still do it in secret, after all, gambling is now done by people from all walks of life and they do not recognize what their profession.
But if they can gamble responsibly and are able to control themselves in gambling then that is not problem even though there are regulations prohibiting gambling, after all this is done to relieve stress and boredom.

If that is the reason then everyone who is facing depression is going to gamble to cope with it? Why not just face the issue first of depression, maybe there are better ways to approach it instead of wasting their money in gambling? I don't know but I'm still in the fence here, soldiers should have known better that gambling their money away.

Just like you and me, we work for our families to have our kids go to a decent school and just be proud of you as you are fighting for your country. And it could devastate them if you go home without any money because you wasted it because you are selfish as you want to cope with your depression thru gambling.

If this refers to a situation to eliminate boredom, I agree if the limit is removed.
But for me a gambler (all gamblers) sometimes they are good at hiding something bad from the public like when someone is addicted to gambling has a lot of debt and when he is asked are you okay? He will definitely say "Yes I'm fine"
Whereas a friend or family believes if there is no impact whatsoever from gambling, but after going on for too long eventually everyone will hear that the gambler has a lot of big debts and is addicted to gambling.

This is the reason why state authorities may restrict soldiers from gambling, because something bad can be hidden without other people knowing, such as bad effects (gambling addiction) can be hidden without anyone knowing.
If it's just about relieving stress, I think playing video games is enough to relieve stress.

If this is the case that soldier are gambling responsiby then there should not be restriction on soldier to engage in gambling but  the reason behind why the government restricted soldier to gamble is the negative impact of their uncontrolled gambling to their financial status.  It was said that these soldier who happen to relieve their stress through gambling often ends up in debt.  This action of the government is to save these soldier to end up in financial ruins.

If only soldiers engage in gambling responsibly, I believe the state wouldn't issue such gambling restriction laws for soldiers.  Before these soldiers petition for that said law, they must show the government that all department of the military is engaging in gambling responsibly.  There is no harm in relieving stress but if it will ruin a soldiers future then it is better to restrict these soldiers from accessing such activity and in this case, gambling.


I believe these soldier are not gambling while on their duty and most certainly not in the middle of a fight.  They probably got an access to the gambling platform when they are on a break or off duty, see the statement to relieve boredom.  Obviously boredom appears when there is an idle moment so it is more likey when they are off-duty while deployed at the place of their assignment.



If gambling is affecting their military duty then they should be restricted.  After all military discipline is way more strict than a civilian.

Gamble on the battle field, certainly not. Why would I allow that and what stress are we talking about here. Of course I know it’s not easy being out there and I would t what to say it’s their job to handle it or it’s what they’ve been trained to do but, they could manage that stress better or even gamble should they want to when they get back to the camp or barracks. Not right there in the battle field. In the field, your all is needed because, not just your life but the life of your team depends on it, no time to play around and not be analyzing the battle field.

If it's done as a hobby then yes absolutely.  Hobbies are a great way to relieve stress.  It's when it becomes a problem or addictive it will only add to their stress.  But for people who have good self control gbling I can see as a good way to get theor mind off some of the crazy things they see in theor day to day life.  Why not.

Huh, would've expected the topic to be about gambling amongst soldiers themselves, like together and not through casinos. Like a 100% they should be regulated when it comes to online casinos, that thing just adds more stress imo. Not outright banned though. Maybe create a local casino for soldiers instead? It's a lot more fun to play around with people you are familiar with and 100% more effective imo in de-stressing.

And if they ever actually push banning gambling altogether, at least provide an alternative to the soldiers so that they can do something to de-stress. They know about it after all so seeing as they're only removing an effective solution without providing an alternative kinda sucks.

Perfectly said.
As a gambler being a soldier or not, there are a lot of gamblers that have depend on  gamble, and it's bad because gamble is not like a business or an investment or let's use the word asset. It's a risky thing that's meant for entertainment for those who takes it a their ways for being entertained.
But I think a solder that is well trained have discipline, so if gamble is what will make them ease stress, then they should do it, and it will also help them to concentrate a bit during their free time. Someone who suffers from mental trauma case needs something they will focus on in other to reduce their mental illness a bit even if it's not gamble.

It is well-known that soldiers suffer an incredible amount of stress, so historically their commanders have done what it is on their hands to try to relieve that stress to keep their soldiers fit for combat, so while I can understand the desire to keep soldiers away from gambling as they are getting loans to do this, such actions only address the long term prospects of those soldiers, which due to the high risk of their occupation they do not know if they will get to see it at all, so the Ukrainian government must also do something to try to alleviate the suffering of those soldiers now, so they can cope with the high levels of stress they are dealing with.

On this case that soldiers got to the point of felling into debts severely, I believed restrictions would be applied on particular cases in which affected their finances. There's many ways to fight boredom, but it always depends on a soldier who managed their stress after they've been through lots of hardwork from war. However, we can't stop some of their comrades to divert happiness by means of doing gambling. Unfortunately, it resulted to mismanaged funds which made them addicted to gambling specially during vacation period. Well, if the law implementated this strict standards I think they should abide because it's in their duty to follow commands.
Still when there's smartphones and the edge of technology they'll still can do gambling out of control, so it's really important to find a good alternative on beating stress aside from gambling it can be family time or other social activities like sports and entertainment.

So, would you allow your soldiers to gamble on the battlefield?
If it were me, I certainly wouldn't let them gamble on the battlefield, but might give the soldiers some respite when they return to the camp. On the battlefield, you can give your soldiers cigarettes and some other things to avoid stress or pressure, gambling will probably only make things worse in this situation.

Imagine one thing, what if this soldier spent all his salary on gambling while on the battlefield, how could he support his family?
Isn't this a bad idea?

If gambling activity is done into those times on which they are on duty then this is where things being wrong and not something that should be tolerated or something that should be done yet we do know on what their job is on which they would really be needing up to be attentive but if they are playing gambling on their past time or break or off duty then there's nothing wrong with that. Spending up their salaries?
Its none of our business on how they would really be spending it out, and as long they would really be having that moderation then it would really be just that fine. If we do speak about coping up
with their stress then thats how things work and just let them be on the thing that they are really that engaging into.

Gambling in the time of war? Totally sound laughable on which this would really be considered as suicide on the moment that you would really be doing this.
Making some gambling in war does really indicate that you dont love your life and really that giving up priority to gambling. lol

Heck no they’re already gambling their life by fighting in a war they should be allowed to gamble as much as they please. Anyone should have freedom to do anything they want to with their own money, isn’t this the whole purpose of Bitcoin? If it goes against the values of BTC and lacks freedom I am not inclined to get behind that train of thought.

they are soldiers who are assigned to be loyal and obedient to their country, but if they gamble during war it is a very ridiculous thing, i also really agree that the Ukrainian government should prohibit their soldiers from gambling during war ^{(it is really ridiculous imo if they gamble in a state of war)}.  In the past, soldiers gambled only when they were in a relaxed state and the games they played were offline gambling, which is different from those who are soldiers today, they gamble online and that is very dangerous in war conditions, i support the petition for soldiers don't gamble when the war rages on whatever their reasons.

I don't think there should be a problem for soldiers gambling, that is if they uphold the laws and the conduct of the Ukraine Army but where there should be a draw line is when they do it in duty then it should be reported by fellow soldiers and there should be a reward for anyone who made such reported, this will make all this nonsense to stop because I don't understand why a soldier sent to war front would like to gamble on his phone, no wonder they get killed easily.

However, there should also be an investigation why a soldier will be betting, it's possible that those soldiers aren't betting to cope with stress, there are other games one can do to ease stress. I hope the soldiers are not gambling to make money? If the solders are under paid, then the petition is useless as the fault is.coming from the government and if they don't find a permanent solution to it, there wouldn't be any changes even later.

I know why they're gambling. During war time they get much more money, but have no way to spend it. You get to sit in a hole in the ground, watching for enemy soldiers and tanks, eating rations and smoking cigarettes. You pick up the phone and there's a couple thousand dollars more because you got your wage, but there's no store in miles and you can't leave your post. It's boring so they gamble to kill time and do something with the money.
IMO you can't stop them because often they'll be left alone or in small groups. You'd need them to rat each other out to their superiors to be able to punish them. It's of course possible to ban gambling, but enforcing it will pose a problem.