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Topic: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? - page 35. (Read 30796 times)

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A socialist society eliminates the unjust relationship between labor and capital that gives rise to poverty. By taking away the capitalists’ right to exploit labor, the working class is free to decide how the fruits of our labor are used. Needless to say, under this system no one will go without the basic necessities of life.
legendary
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I believe it's socialism and to be more specific, communism.

ONLY, if it was applied in a proper way.

I can't find a solution for poverty in capitalism.

Communism and socialism take away incentives to be creative and create more efficient ways of doing things.  

Intensives are mainly around resource allocation for capitalism though.  Humans want more than a bunch of material things and access to stuff other people cant afford.

That may be true, but when deciding if they wish to work or how hard they will word they will look at the financial rewards.

When you were "younger" before you had money and material concerns did financial rewards really motivate you 100% or even all that much ?  I can remember is being motivated to achieve via people and environment almost entirely.  

How true!!!!
legendary
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I believe it's socialism and to be more specific, communism.

ONLY, if it was applied in a proper way.

I can't find a solution for poverty in capitalism.

Communism and socialism take away incentives to be creative and create more efficient ways of doing things.  

Intensives are mainly around resource allocation for capitalism though.  Humans want more than a bunch of material things and access to stuff other people cant afford.

That may be true, but when deciding if they wish to work or how hard they will word they will look at the financial rewards.

When you were "younger" before you had money and material concerns did financial rewards really motivate you 100% or even all that much ?  I can remember is being motivated to achieve via people and environment almost entirely.  
legendary
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Socialism and Capitalism are like peanut butter and chocolate. Sure they go great together, but RBE is like a thick juicy steak and an ice cold beer.

I'd love for the RBE advocates to develop a working prototype of a decentralized computer resource allocating system in order for me to seriously consider it as practically possible to implement.  
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
Socialism and Capitalism are like peanut butter and chocolate. Sure they go great together, but RBE is like a thick juicy steak and an ice cold beer.
sr. member
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I believe it's socialism and to be more specific, communism.

ONLY, if it was applied in a proper way.

I can't find a solution for poverty in capitalism.

Communism and socialism take away incentives to be creative and create more efficient ways of doing things.  

Intensives are mainly around resource allocation for capitalism though.  Humans want more than a bunch of material things and access to stuff other people cant afford.

That may be true, but when deciding if they wish to work or how hard they will word they will look at the financial rewards.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
I believe it's socialism and to be more specific, communism.

ONLY, if it was applied in a proper way.

I can't find a solution for poverty in capitalism.

Communism and socialism take away incentives to be creative and create more efficient ways of doing things.  

Intensives are mainly around resource allocation for capitalism though.  Humans want more than a bunch of material things and access to stuff other people cant afford.
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Historically, communist leaders will kill their own people to weed out opposition voice.


All the while, capitalist ones don't???  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Capitalist leaders invade another country.
legendary
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I believe it's socialism and to be more specific, communism.

ONLY, if it was applied in a proper way.

I can't find a solution for poverty in capitalism.

Communism and socialism take away incentives to be creative and create more efficient ways of doing things. 

I am living in a very creative capitalistic crisis!!! I can tell you it's a real joy!!!
Creativity??? Many people have been creative about how to commit suicide!!!
legendary
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Historically, communist leaders will kill their own people to weed out opposition voice.


All the while, capitalist ones don't???  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
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I believe it's socialism and to be more specific, communism.

ONLY, if it was applied in a proper way.

I can't find a solution for poverty in capitalism.

Communism and socialism take away incentives to be creative and create more efficient ways of doing things. 
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To have prosperity, we need freedom, property rights, and a social stance that earning money within the rules of free trade is a virtue.

Let it be known, that if some of you commies try to force me from the free market to the extent that my children have to grow up with hunger, sickness and ignorance, I am ready to stop you with forceful self defence.

Historically, communist leaders will kill their own people to weed out opposition voice.

Good luck with your forceful self defense.

legendary
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To have prosperity, we need freedom, property rights, and a social stance that earning money within the rules of free trade is a virtue.

Let it be known, that if some of you commies try to force me from the free market to the extent that my children have to grow up with hunger, sickness and ignorance, I am ready to stop you with forceful self defence.
legendary
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Capitalism supposedly pays the best, so, it has to have rich and poor!!! No way around it!
hero member
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In math we trust.
The problem with pure capitalism is that it provides way too much freedom.
That freedom allows us to form how the worldwide system works.
This combined with the fast that people are ego-centric makes the world unfair.
Conclusion: It's the peoples fault.
 Roll Eyes
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The fault lies in human behavior.

Doesn't matter which type of system people choose, there will always be someone going to figure out a way to evade the rules.
sr. member
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I believe it's socialism and to be more specific, communism.

ONLY, if it was applied in a proper way.

I can't find a solution for poverty in capitalism.
legendary
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All form of societies eventually lead to crony type system.

Asset will be given to children and close family regardless of their work attitude and talent.

Well in a free society you have to be allowed to give to your children and whoever you like to give to. If you are not allowed to give something away, you don't own it. It is essential to the concept of property.

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sr. member
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My viewpoint is controversial.

Not everything should be tied to a profit motive, not every cost to a marketplace. I view  Socialism and Capitalism as carbon and iron. Two metals that by themselves are weak but when combined create a alloy called steel.

Volunteer work, modest safety nets are important. But the market place with the exception of life threatening illness is the best way to determine price and thus profit motive is needed. There is no clear answer as to how much carbon or iron should be used to create this form of steel. It changes day to day, week to week and month to month.

My solution to poverty is both. Provide a vibrant economy with a profit motive to  generate small business growth that creates jobs, provide some public services to allow individuals tor recover from catastrophic events.



What level of safety should people have? How much support should they receive after a catastrophic event?
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