Topic: [SOLVED] Adkinsbet scammed me 66.3mbt - page 3. (Read 996 times)

Seems that nobody is paying to how discussion in Adkins topic escalated to ''paid dogs'':

Let's get facts once again:

A user had his funds confiscated due to arbitrage bets.

I expressed my own opinion in the post below:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

You see anything wrong in my response? Ofcourse not. All of a sudden, i received the following responses:

A) user rijaljun accused me that i am abusing the site (!)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

B) user john_nautica called me criminal and cheater (!)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

C) user yayayo accused me for match fixing and being an alt account with other members who had their profits confiscated (!)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

d) user safari88 called me an alt account and a cheater (!)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

e) user pungopete468 called me a troll and accused me for DOS Attack of adknisbet (!!!)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

f) user BitcoinAccepted called me a troll and manipulator (!)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

g) user cutesgirl wrote that i am suspicious for adkins DOS Attack (!!!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

h) user BlackFor3st wrote that i am an alt account with some other users who is bullshit, he also accused me for Adkins Dos Attack (!!!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

i) user imutlinda agrees with BlackFor3st that i am responsible for Adkins Dos Attack (!!!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

As said, i received all this attack due to this post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

Then user BlackFor3st  posted first about ''mother and Dos Attacks''
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

As a response to all those nonsense accusations i described above, i posted this:

''It is funny how those jokers get paid 1-2 euros to defend adkins bet but in reality they DESTROY adkins reputation.

Keep on trolls, continue posting bullishits to get paid 1-2 euros per post!

Even Adkins paid the disputed arbitrage bets but you are such an idiots that you don't even read Adkins response!

Big clowns who can sell their mother for 2 euros!''

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

Now all of a sudden, noone gives attention on how discussion escalated, noone saw the unjustified accusations against me, they only find it logical to have my winnings confiscated cause i called them ''paid dogs''. Can you believe it??? Noone will ever accept that as it is against any TOS and against industry standarts!!![/b]

What should someone do when he is being repeatedly accused by 20+ members who act as a team with no justifications at all? Give them flowers? Of course not!

I'm not a DT and not a paid dog but you have the right to suspend or freeze any account that you found any suspicious activity such as winning consecutively because you need to protect your business. Casino is not a charity that will giveaway money to all user playing on it, of course your is to have profit to sustain your business operating cost.

It's usual to receive some accusation here because there's always an isolated case for this kind of issue. Most important things to consider is to become transparent on answering all questions here and nevet get tired replying on question. I suggest that you should use the bitcointalk notifier bot in telegram so that you will receive notification once someone mention you in there post. It will be easier for you reply on all question here in the forum.

Check it out here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/telegram-yet-another-bitcointalk-notification-bot-merits-mentions-topics-5248878

I don't think Spyros is involved in these fixed bets. He may be rude and cheeky on the forum and shows no respect for other people, but he is certainly not a match fixer.

I am pretty sure that that is also not the problem on the site.

What I see in the site's terms and conditions from Adkinsbet is this:

We may choose to close, suspend or temporarily limit your account if we reasonably believe you are not complying with our terms and conditions, or to maintain the integrity of our service.


You can ask yourself within which frameworks this falls. In fact, the integrity of the service is being violated, but the question is whether that is enough to close an account and confiscate the fund.

Spyros has already received a payout a few times. I also don't think it is very useful to threaten that you want to be paid, because otherwise you will start an accusatin topic.

Adult people first solve this communicatively via the Email, without threats.

I am aware that Spyros also accused me that I am a paid dog. I wonder how many other accounts he will mention as well.

I do not blame him, this user Spyros seems to be a bit paranoid at this point now and probably forgotten to take his medicines.

Hm what's professional gambler group? Does that mean OP is one of professional gambler? How long you will investigate the evidence you have found? Since you have said OP has nothing to do with scammer groups.

 Does that mean you've admitted locked OP's 66.3 mBTC?

I'm not OP's side nor adkinsbet, just wanna post my opinion about this. I also agree OP shouldn't calling people by "paid dogs" since those people are expressing their opinion as well. If their words seems trying to defend adkinsbets,it doesn't mean they are working or get paid under adkinsbets.

If people feel they have been disadvantaged by us, they have every right to start a topic here. What we at Adkinsbet don't appreciate are the professional allegations about the so-called "paid dogs".
We are open for every discussion of course, in a respectful way without threats.

There is an active group of professional gamblers who have been able to cheat due to a delay in our api.
We use the same api as 1xbit and 1xbet, but we have no relationship with BETB2B or any of the above companies.
We are still working to fix this cheating possibility at the moment.
We have 100% proof that this group has created duplicate and multiple accounts on the forum purely deliberately with the aim of scamming our site. In the beginning we paid these players.
After that, we closed new accounts and kept the money as we have 100% certainty that these are the same scammers as before.
For privacy reasons, I do not want to disclose these usernames on the forum.

As for the user spyrosc200: We found evidence that this user might be involved in this professional gambler group. However, because we only want to make a judgment after sufficient evidence, we have taken the necessary time to investigate this.
We informed spyrosc200 a few days ago that his bets and account were valid, and we can confirm that he has nothing to do with the group of scammers.

We are a new bookmaker, right now we are behind our decision. We are of course open to solving this, if it turns out that our decision was not the correct one.
We do not tolerate false accusations from users, as this can cause serious image damage.

If experienced users or DT users have a different opinion than our current decisions, then we are certainly open to this and will also pay the user in question (under certain conditions).
I think everyone would agree that the moment you inflict serious image damage on a site, there are consequences.
Spyros is welcome to engage a mediator, and if we prove wrong, we will be happy to pay this 66.3 mBTC

Glad that my post got attention from the ''paid dogs''. Now is so obvious to everyone what i am talking about

Will not spend more energy with you, it is clear what you are doing

List of paid dogs includes but not limited to:  yayayo, deadthings, qory, condegnone, coin.princess, gadado, safari88, RokokGudangGaram, Cacingkemi, BTCGOLD, BitcoinAccepted, cutesgirl, aomakun, sempak, MI6, ongkok87,  BlackFor3st, imutlinda, pungopete468, mardaed, nasipadang, ufaiz50, cryptomaniac_xxx, aomakun, zidanw, qory, john_nautica, wildan88, msarro.

Waiting rest dogs to suddenly discover this topic  

I do not know the names of this professional gambling group, but at least we have this post from the archive



I also suggest to Spyros20 not to bump this topic the whole time with irrelevant information like he is doing now, and wait for a reply from Adkinsbet.

Ow really? Why did they then process your withdrawals worth over 1000 eur? Which were received by you.
The problems appear to begin after that process. If they wanted to steal your money, they would never have pay you the 1000 eur before.

[/quote]


You write that we have to stick to the point, but you are the one who is talking about other things that have nothing to do with this.
by the way, TIMOM is part of a professional gambling cheater group.
I hope Adkinsbet can provide the evidence here. Your reaction only implies that you are connected to that group, since TIMOM was not scammed, he was the one who cheated on Adkinsbet.
He did not provide any proof at all. TIMOM is always slandering bookmakers.
Also funny that all these accounts suddenly do not post anymore the last few days together with you.
What would be the chances of that? Every message makes your behavior more and more ridiculous with your accusations.

Seems you are so desperate to protect them them that you haven't even check that user TIMOM got scammed as well

Proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

User ''spyrosc200'' is me that got scammed as well.

Some others names you mentioned are on ''paid dogs'' list as well

Stick to the point please: Adkinsbet were inventing reason do confiscate my balance from the beginning. This is obvious to anyone bar paid dogs. That's why they kept my withdrawal pending for 10 days.

Even if they had such TOS, that would sent them to rogue/scam bookmakers as such term is not according to industry standards.

What happened with Adkinsbet is:

1) Some users post complaints that they had their money confiscated due to arbitrage bets.

2) I post my own opinion that according to industry standards Adkinsbet should paid those guys since they accepted the bets and kick/limit them.

All of a sudden, about 10 paid dogs started calling me liar, an alt account, an idiot even accused me as responsible for Adkins Dos Attack.

I responded that those ''paid dogs'' can sell their mother for 2 euros from affiliation.

Meanwhile, Adkinsbet wrote that those arbitrage bets were paid (which is what i said was the correct from the beginning), yet those paid dogs were accusing me as an alt account, deserved to be scammed, a cheater etc etc.

This is the whole story with my so called ''bad behavour''.

Is it enough for justification of my winning? Obviously not. Everyone can understand this except the ''paid dogs''.

I am waiting Adkinsbet answer as well

Unless it is stated in their TOS that getting upset and posting about it on social media will result in all funds being confiscated and the account will be closed; Op is entitled to their winnings.

I'm going to wait and see if Adkins responds here before going any further, as there could be more to the story.

---

A company does have the right to end the service agreement, but that does not entitle them to confiscate the funds. Unless something else is presented I would expect you to be paid and then have your account closed.

They paid you already a few times. That they did not pay you the last time, is the consequence of your own attitude.
I am pretty sure if you have communicated on a normal way with them, you would already have received your winnings. You choose instead to threat them.
I'm afraid you're really twisting some facts here.
I can write a whole story about this, but I will limit myself to the relevant matters. If you say that you are not lying, it probably means that you are not capable of thinking clearly yourself. I didn't expect that from someone who says that forum posters would sell their mother for 2 eur.

About that PM I wrote to you, you probably misinterpreted that. I meant by my sentence that I was not approached by Adkinsbet to post, but by other bookmakers.
By the way, I am not going to mention names here.

66 mBTC is not even worth scamming somebody. They gave away last week free 40 mBTC and today again.
Do you really think they are interested in scamming you for only 66 mBTC?



Some of your quotes:




You do that from the start. You keep saying that there are using paid dogs defending Adkinsbet.
You don't seem to understand that this is a serious accusation. We're not here at the zoo.
Do you actually realize what negative view people will get when they read things like this?



As you can see, Adkinsbet just pays everyone.
Even the scammers got paid.



There is no need to comment on this quote





And here you don't understand the difference between criticism and accusation.
Giving criticism is always good, but criticism must be substantiated with arguments.
What you do is accuse Adkinsbet. That is not a criticism.





All issues were professionally resolved by Adkinsbet, they even chose to pay the cheaters.



They have already paid you a few times without any problems. But with your behavior and allegations on the forum, they have closed your account. What's weird about that?
it is not only about the behavior, the problem is your accusations.
Also funny that you write to them in every email that you want to be paid the next day, because otherwise you start an accusation topic.
Is that your way of solving situations with people?





First you try to lecture people that they should post in the accusations section, and not in the ann topic. Then you start spamming the ann topic that it is scam. Where's the logic?








Adkinsbet is a popluar site so far for people, many customers are happy and all get paid. I am sure this is not the whole list.


TIMOM

1mbtc

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

coin.princess

Not indicated (probably 1mbtc)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

Pffrt

Did not indicate

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

pungopete468

5mbtc

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

gerid

22mbtc and 60mbtc

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

Stedsm

Did not indicate

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

ronaldo40

283mbtc

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

spyrosc200

1000 euros in total

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

lebregone

26mbtc

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

safari88

$400

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

lavander

Did not indicate

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

vanitywallets2015

$200

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

betingsh

Did not indicate

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

--------------------------------------------

BkackFor3st

2.22mbtc

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

-------------------------------------------

mu_enrico (DT2 Member)

Did not indicate

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290408

I had no problem with any other bitcoin bookmaker.

Betcoing.ad, stake, fortunejack, sportsbet, betnomi, all paid fine except ADKINSBET that you keep defending them on a daily basis. What a coincidence.

Haven't slender them before they closed my account.

What i told them was to get rid of paid dogs like you cause you are harming them in the long ran. I still believe the same and would post it again and again.

If they don't allowed critics,  they should not open a topic in public.

KYC wasn't an issue mate.

Have sent them all documents requested, ID, selfie ID, utility.

According to industry standards they can ask for a KYC and i am familiar with that.

The problem is with their stalling techniques.

One day your bets are ok, the next day your bets have irregularities, another day your account is ok but they don't pay you, another day they didin't like your forum posts lol

When Adkinsbet confiscate winnings of another guy, i posted in Adkinsbet topic the same post as yours.

All of a sudden, around 10 paid dogs came to defend them and they called me a liar, an alt acc, they said i am responsible for their DOS Attack etc etc. This explains a lot about how they work.

Should i remind you that you already admitted me by private message that you approached from Adkinsbet to defend them as well on topics? It seems you forgot it haha.

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/TrhB0y6

P.S: It is nice to see that some mentioned ''paid dogs'' like gagado, ronaldo40 and nasipandang  already discovered this topic

his tittle says 66.3mBTC and his first line of post says 6.63 mBTC. but when you see his screenshot of widhraw you'll notice it is 66.3 mBTC.

here:

by all these points and proofs it seems they obviously stalling him. lets see if Adkinsbet have any answer on that.

Edit: @OP please use this format for your thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2774678 or at least post their Bitcointalk links in top.

You should be paid. They're obviously stalling for whatever reason. Your behavior on the forum should have no bearing on whether you are paid or not.

OP, actually you have got scammed 6.63 mBTC or 66.3 mBTC?