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Quote from: Dailyscript on December 27, 2023, 02:13:56 AM

I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

I salute what they do, even though it involves unexpected things they have to do it because it is their job, regarding tips it depends on one's personality in looking at this, and I see nothing wrong if we give a little tip for them. Even though it's not worth the risk, at least it helps to increase their income.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on January 06, 2024, 04:56:21 PM

It's just so weird when you enter the mall and you show him your bag after that you give him a tip.

Yes, i think it would be weird too as most people don’t make it a habit to give tips to security moments after arriving and being frisked. One might think you’re buying your way in/paying for certain privileges you shouldn’t ordinarily have.
Tipping is purely optional and if you decide to tip the security moments after arriving, it’s all good. It’s your money anyway.

Quote from: Sanugarid on January 06, 2024, 04:56:21 PM

I'm just saying let's do it the right way. It's even better to tip the waitresses who bring you the menus and orders and give you a good service.

Assuming I’m interested in tipping security at a venue, What then do you propose to be the right way to do so?
It could be really motivating for anyone providing you a good service and receives a commendation or a tip from you. It really doesn’t matter if it’s a waitress or the security doing a good job, if you think they’re doing a good job, let them know. People love being appreciated for their efforts more than they let on.

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Quote from: bakasabo on January 03, 2024, 03:16:24 AM

In my country it is not a customary to tip everywhere. It is common to leave tips in restaurants where waitresses bring menus and orders. But when you are in a restaurant and order from a menu written in the wall, but waitress bring you your food, we dont tip them, as we already have paid at cash desk.

For a country where tipping isnt a tradition, I find it difficult to tell when it is ok to tip or when it is not. Waitress (employee) gives you menu, bring your food - you tip him/her. Your order at McDonalds, employee brings you plate with order - we dont tip him/her.

Tipping a security at the mall. What for? He is doing his job firstly. Secondly, security guy wont understand the reason for a tip. He would have though that I want to bribe him and do later something illegal, like stealing.

Exactly, first of all they are just doing their job and they know that's what they entered the job for. It's just so weird when you enter the mall and you show him your bag after that you give him a tip. I know giving tips is optional and it's our choice, I'm just saying let's do it the right way. It's even better to tip the waitresses who bring you the menus and orders and give you a good service.

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Tipping is a form of encouragement and I see nothing bad in the act, tipping is just another form of rewarding a worker but if you feel you can't do that then it's not a must, not just security workers tho, if you mentioned only security then you're trying to say security workers should receive the reward always and if they feel the work is too risk why accepting such job that sounds risky, thinking about your opinion what will happen to other workers that has never received such money cause you can't reward every worker your money might not be enough to buy food, or you choose your favourite, even with the choosing system it can cause confusion between two peaceful workers, what I'm trying to say is when gifting money to a worker for a job welldone it should not be too obvious, In my opinion if you find any worker that works effortlessly that person deserves the money, tipping is very common mostly where I'm coming from and it's encouraging.

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Quote from: slapper on January 03, 2024, 06:44:35 AM

Tipping security personnel is not just a considerate act, but also a wise choice. Consider this: these guards are preventing our shopping excursion from becoming a free-for-all by being on the front lines. Despite the difficulty of the job, they carry it out with a smile. That shows a great deal of commitment! Let's now discuss the economics: their pay, which is frequently on the lower end, isn't fully commensurate with the risk they take on. We are effectively supporting their well-being when we tip, and this benefits the caliber of their service. It's like if we are contributing to their and our own happiness fund. Not to mention the ripple effect: a little additional money in their pocket could have a big impact on their families. A tiny deed can have a significant effect. Tipping them is essentially like taking a playful gamble on goodwill, where the odds are always in favor of a more compassionate and better world

I have a different opinion. Going by your definition, if we should tip security guards then we should also tip the police for the good work they do. They play a greater role in society protecting life and property. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Some services do not need tips from the public as it can affect the integrity of the officer doing his job. Acts like this can lead to corruption. I think a solution to the financial problems security personnels face is a higher salary and better quality healthcare for themselves and their families.

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Tipping feels good. We see someone hustling, making our lives easier, and bam! Out comes the gratitude money. Sure, it feels better for a minute, but the real issue is the system itself.

Businesses wanna squeeze out every penny, treating employees like cogs in a machine. Tipping culture? That's their way of saying, "Hey, you wanna decent wage? Go beg the customers!" Talk about passing the buck, am I right?

Look, I'm not saying a friendly tip hurts anyone. But instead of keeping this lopsided game going, I'm all about raising the bar. Let's shout for higher wages and better working conditions for everyone, not just the smiling faces we see. Imagine a world where factory workers and warehouse crews get their due, without relying on our pity or spare change. Now that's a future I can get behind.

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Quote from: Dailyscript on December 27, 2023, 02:13:56 AM

I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

Here in our country, I don't know about other countries, giving tips to those who work inside the mall. At the boutique outlet, sales staff or sales ladies have rules that prohibit them from receiving any tips from their customers unless it is told to the superior or placed in the centralized tip.

That's why the other sales staff do it; they just accept it secretly because it is prohibited by their company rules. And there is nothing stopping us as customers if we want to tip them.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on January 02, 2024, 01:17:48 PM

I don't have any issue with anyone tipping others for services rendered. If you're satisfied with their services, tip them. However if you aren't satisfied with them, don't tip anyone. I tip waiters/waitresses when I perceive they could do with the extra penny, especially if they gave me superb services. Other than that, I keep my change or I completely avoid returning to that joint next time.

i always consider tipping to be essential to respect other people because we can appreciate their good services and treatment that way.

Respect is reciprocal. Before anyone can tip a security or anyone worker in a mall it is because of they have respect for customers who comes in the mall. And perhaps the customers have seen the honesty of that particular worker which made him feel like the best way to appreciate them for thier genuine services is to tip them.

You can attest to it that services differs and each customer can rate a particular services differently. So to the extent they rate it that is how they may feel like to tip.

Quote from: bakasabo on January 03, 2024, 03:16:24 AM

In my country it is not a customary to tip everywhere. It is common to leave tips in restaurants where waitresses bring menus and orders. But when you are in a restaurant and order from a menu written in the wall, but waitress bring you your food, we dont tip them, as we already have paid at cash desk.

For a country where tipping isnt a tradition, I find it difficult to tell when it is ok to tip or when it is not. Waitress (employee) gives you menu, bring your food - you tip him/her. Your order at McDonalds, employee brings you plate with order - we dont tip him/her.

Tipping a security at the mall. What for? He is doing his job firstly. Secondly, security guy wont understand the reason for a tip. He would have though that I want to bribe him and do later something illegal, like stealing.

I can bet that there are persons that tip workers in your country and you are not aware of that. You cant tell me in your entire country that there are no generous persons. Buddy, tipping is not a criteria it is out of love, respect and human sympathy. When you see someone tipping a worker then there must be a reason. If you have never tried it then you should and know how it feels.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on January 03, 2024, 05:40:27 AM

I have the same principle. People who are nice and helpful to me deserves a tip from me. It really depends upon a situation whether we give a tip or not though helping is good but the thing is I need the one who really deserves a tip security or not it does not matter but of course as long as I have something to give I share it.

In many cases, we actually have to be able to make our own choices, whether it's sharing knowledge or something else, because tips are also part of knowledge or a way to achieve something good in detail and correctly. So everyone can make their own selection for things like this because not everyone has the right to give us tips, especially people who don't know how to be grateful after getting more tips from us. So there is no need to worry about it for everyone except those who really deserve it.

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Tipping security personnel is not just a considerate act, but also a wise choice. Consider this: these guards are preventing our shopping excursion from becoming a free-for-all by being on the front lines. Despite the difficulty of the job, they carry it out with a smile. That shows a great deal of commitment! Let's now discuss the economics: their pay, which is frequently on the lower end, isn't fully commensurate with the risk they take on. We are effectively supporting their well-being when we tip, and this benefits the caliber of their service. It's like if we are contributing to their and our own happiness fund. Not to mention the ripple effect: a little additional money in their pocket could have a big impact on their families. A tiny deed can have a significant effect. Tipping them is essentially like taking a playful gamble on goodwill, where the odds are always in favor of a more compassionate and better world

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Quote from: Dailyscript on December 27, 2023, 02:13:56 AM

I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

The security are the essential service for now,because many people doing the theft activities at the presence of the camera in many locations.Since you had mentioned working in the mall,huge valuable items will be their.It was essential for the manual security at this place,the life of security is sometimes risky too.Because if you are working in the gold jeweller,you need to hold the gun at your hand for your life security.Because the security with get 100-150$ per month,but the life risk is equal to the person at the army.So you should ask your owner to implement the camera along with the security guard.

Quote from: 0t3p0t on January 03, 2024, 05:40:27 AM

I have the same principle. People who are nice and helpful to me deserves a tip from me. It really depends upon a situation whether we give a tip or not though helping is good but the thing is I need the one who really deserves a tip security or not it does not matter but of course as long as I have something to give I share it.

The security guard only getting a less amount of 100-150$ as their monthly salary,this was the reason for them to seek for the tips.The tips giving is our own wish,they will not force anyone.The richest person itself only give the tip of 10-20$ to the security guard.We are in the society where the government official ask for the bribe,when they get the good salary like 1k-1.5k for the monthly salary.So helping the security with the tip is not the big thing.

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Quote from: Iroh on December 27, 2023, 06:58:42 PM

That’s your opinion and it’s well received. Tipping is purely optional and should never be mandated. If you feel the service received is good and worthy of appreciation, then by all means, go ahead and tip. Giving tips is an optional gesture of being thankful from the customer for an excellent service provided.

I’d like to think that security being a priority in any organization or business, would pay their security staff a decent amount. Asides that, no employee should have to rely on tips to augment what they get paid.

That's right, giving the tip is optional. If you really appreciate what the guard is doing to you, why not, right? Give a tip because he really helped you, but if you just tip the guards for no reason, it doesn't look good.

We know that the guards are very helpful, especially at the mall, because this is where we ask where the place is when we can't see it or we get lost. They are the ones who give us directions, I often ask the guard for directions because they already memorize the malls. I don't often give tips to the guards, but I don't lose my gratitude to them after they help me, the others are okay with them that you appreciate what they did for you.

My personal policy when it comes to jobs in which I do not normally give a tip has always been to give a tip to those that go out of their way to help me, so if a security guard helped me with something they did not had to, I will give them a tip, however giving a tip just because they are doing their job does not seem right to me, as if I were to apply that criteria then I will need to give a tip to every single person that was working and that I met along the way.

I have the same principle. People who are nice and helpful to me deserves a tip from me. It really depends upon a situation whether we give a tip or not though helping is good but the thing is I need the one who really deserves a tip security or not it does not matter but of course as long as I have something to give I share it.

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In my country it is not a customary to tip everywhere. It is common to leave tips in restaurants where waitresses bring menus and orders. But when you are in a restaurant and order from a menu written in the wall, but waitress bring you your food, we dont tip them, as we already have paid at cash desk.

For a country where tipping isnt a tradition, I find it difficult to tell when it is ok to tip or when it is not. Waitress (employee) gives you menu, bring your food - you tip him/her. Your order at McDonalds, employee brings you plate with order - we dont tip him/her.

Tipping a security at the mall. What for? He is doing his job firstly. Secondly, security guy wont understand the reason for a tip. He would have though that I want to bribe him and do later something illegal, like stealing.

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Quote from: Dailyscript on December 27, 2023, 02:13:56 AM

I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

Being appreciative of those who work as security guards is a good habit to have because it will encourage them while they are performing their duties. You will notice that the majority of them seem happy to be working; this is not because they are happy with their salaries; rather, they are happy that their families are doing well and they thank God for allowing them to perform security guard work so they can provide for their families. As life goes on, everyone must do what will put food on the table. In my opinion, people don't like stress, and if they have another opportunity outside of security, they will leave the security job.

Although working in security is extremely dangerous and something that no one would want to do, some people enjoy it because they don't fear anything and always think that they can handle things. As an example, some people would rather be in the army than work in a wealthy company because they always feel like heroes and that's where they belong. To be honest, I really admire those who work in security because it's not an easy job.

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Yes, it's worth giving a tip to someone who helps someone else. However, they don't expect anything in return because that's their job. But we just want to repay them by giving them tips even though the amount of money is not too big compared to their salary.

It will certainly make them happy to receive tips from customers or someone because they have been helped. It is a form of gratitude from other people to them. And the office or company where he works doesn't have a problem with it. It was a gift from the customer.

After all, we would be happy to see their sincere smiles. And it is a symbiotic mutualism where we respect and care for each other. But it depends on each person. Some may think that tipping is not appropriate because it is their job. Well, that's fine too.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on January 02, 2024, 01:17:48 PM

I don't have any issue with anyone tipping others for services rendered. If you're satisfied with their services, tip them. However if you aren't satisfied with them, don't tip anyone. I tip waiters/waitresses when I perceive they could do with the extra penny, especially if they gave me superb services. Other than that, I keep my change or I completely avoid returning to that joint next time.

when you are tipping low income worker, you are literally giving them food so they can survive, its honestly a good thing and the thing that keeps microeconomic going on these waiters and waitresses also other blue collar workers deserve the tip but sometime as you know the restaurant behind it are also doing some shady thing like they don't want to pay the waiter/waitress their deserving salary because they think those waitress/waitress can live off the tip they received i consider this as curelty, because the tip is different than the salary, you know when a restaurant is giving work to people they should pay the deserving salary not instead keeping it just because the people that work for them got some tips and they also want that share of money to their pocket.
i always consider tipping to be essential to respect other people because we can appreciate their good services and treatment that way.

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Tips might be some means to encourage goood practices in a work pace but, it’s based on the person getting the top either ways. In one way, you could easily divert there attention to be ultimately focused on the tip and you would find a set of staff being nice for no just reason and even deviate from the main job at hand.
Perhaps having a general tip box would be a way to go but, I don’t really like the idea of having to patronize the security unit. It’s supposed to be a focal point in an organization and tips might very much shift their focus. Perhaps you could tip them through the management of need be.

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Maybe in other regions, yes.

But in here, we don't do that. Sure, they do some pretty good stuff to ensure your safety and comfy so you have the best experience in the mall. But, the need to tip is a bad practice on some cases and even prohibited in some regions. Instead, I'd think it's better to raise the salary for securities for how valuable their works are. Just like somebody said, if it starts then the securities would do the job better if there is a tip.
Respect their job and don't annoy them is probably a great idea, I've seen people disrespect them for doing a right job. The tips won't fix that.

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Quote from: Dailyscript on December 27, 2023, 02:13:56 AM

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping?

You mean the doorman or actual security guards? I have never had a security guard thank me for shopping at the mall. To be frank, I don’t usually tip security guards mainly because the ones in my area feel entitled and beg a lot and sometimes it can embarrassing for customers like myself. They get paid for doing their job, I don’t understand why they should expect tips from customers when you do not provide any additional service to the customer. I know for sure the management do not condone the act.

There are people I can tip because I appreciate their services like a waitress, doorman, valet or a bathroom attendant. Tipping security guards at malls is not my thing.

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In my observation, as many place I have gone to me don't see people tipping a security man, the only time I see people tipping a security.
man is when the security man is a friend to that person, brother or course mate. However, tipping a security man is not a bad idea. It is out of human sympathy and not a criterion. And also, security should not expect much from customers, because they are doing their job, and they are being paid for it. If the work does not provide enough money for them, then they should leave it and find a better paying job and don't expect everyone that comes to the mall or shop to tip them.

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