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Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.


Everyone deserves to be paid to the extent that they can live normally and not depend on tips. When it comes to security guards, I don't think it would be wise to tip them, because imagine someone giving such a tip, and then going to steal something in the store in the hope that the security guard will turn his head the other way. In any case, I think it's a bad idea.



secondly, security guards these days are just a visual deterrent, they are not allowed to get "hands on" even if they know a thief has stolen goods on them. all they can do is observe and report,
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Here where I live (EU) security guards have the authority to not only detain someone they suspect of having stolen something, but also to take him to a special room and search him until the police arrive. What I have a problem with is that if someone steals goods worth less than approximately EUR 300, the state does not act according to its official duty and does not sue that person, but the possibility of a lawsuit is transferred to the store owner. This is called a minor deed.

america is the only country that thinks workers deserve a tip just for doing their job.. when in actual fact workers deserve a fair wage and bonuses from their employer for doing their job
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I would not agree that such a way of thinking exists only in the US, because even in the EU waiters always expect a tip, but more and more delivery people are not happy if you don't at least leave them some change. It seems that more and more people think that they are not paid enough and expect some kind of compensation directly from clients, and I sometimes like to reward someone who has done something above my expectations, but I think that such things should be optional, not any type of obligation.
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The security guards really plays an important role in keeping the establishments and shoppers safety. They are the first line of defense when there are hostilities and armed robbers. They have this life threatening job so let us just be nice to them and tipping is I think more than enough to make their day be called a day. 
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Tipping is heavily depends on the cultural and societal norm of each region. In my country tipping is not always welcomed, some place/company have strict rules that forbid their employee to received tips. I never tip except there is a specific encouragement to tip, or the place/business are providing some features/tip jar for me to give the tip. In term of securities, it's not pretty common to give them tip, except in certain occasion that we need some serious help from them.
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Tipping as a way of appreciating good service is a deeply ingrained cultural norm in many parts of the world. And considering the often low salaries of retail workers, including greeters, a little extra financial appreciation can go a long way.

However, unlike waiters or other service professionals who directly contribute to our experience  mall greeters' roles are generally more passive. Their primary function is to be welcoming and polite, which, while commendable, might not warrant a monetary reward in the same way as active service does.

Furthermore, introducing a tipping culture in environments where it's not traditionally expected can be a slippery slope. It can lead to feelings of obligation or pressure to tip, potentially turning a gesture of appreciation into a burden. Additionally, it can create an uneven playing field, where some greeters might receive more tips than others based on factors beyond their control, like their appearance or perceived friendliness.
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.
One thing you need to know is that if you are able to have a job status, everyone will choose a job that is easy but earns a large salary or even double it. In this world, everyone has their own share it is still fortunate to be able to get a job in the midst of very narrow competition in the world of work the lack of job vacancies does not give him many choices. It is a requirement to support the family no matter i f you have to work to pick up trash because you have responsibilities, you will do whatever it takes.

You can position yourself as a mall guard, maybe the same thought comes to mind. Giving tips will certainly make him very happy because he feels cared for. I'm sure they won't look at the nominal amount you give but will look at the human side where currently this level of caring is increasingly rare to find. Giving doesn't have to be rich, keep doing good because our concern for people in need will be very valuable.
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

Actually, it's just optional to the people who give tips to the security only people who appreciate those giving security to the customer, if you have some why not give there's nothing wrong if you appreciate their work, but not only you because even their managers, heads, the supervisor will notice if they are giving their best could be a promotion, additional salary increase, incentives, etc. Those are based on their performance and how they care about their job. I don't think so if this topic related on it this board or off-topic?.
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Yes, their job is to determine from the start and make it safe to enter a mall or shopping place in a city, because when we enter the mall of course there is a security check against the standards provided by the company.

If you feel that your security is helped by security, there's no harm in giving them a tip, because they will never ask visitors, because that is work ethics. Every step or decision he takes provides protection to the people around him.

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When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.
I'm not the type to judge people by giving tips because they work according to the standards given like that and if they refuse then they may not be accepted. The culture of giving tips to others is not getting any better even though most people see them as deserved. Jobs like that require service and they must be friendly to all visitors without having to choose. Without giving tips, they will definitely help everyone and that is their responsibility at work.

Apart from that it is up to each person whether they want to give tips or not, but for me the culture of giving tips to other people is not good because it will give them a different level of care when they work. Respecting other people doesn't mean giving a tip because there are many other ways we can do it.
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I guess you can tip who you want, if you feel you’ve had good service somewhere throw them a tip. It’s not normal practise to tip a security guard but I’m sure it’s done so go for it. It’s definitely not an easy job, some days could be really bad, I don’t know what their pay is like but tip them if you want.
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.



for me, they deserve to be given any tip as a token of appreciation, here in our country, everyone knows how little the salary of security guards is, often they are still under agency which means, there are deductions from their salary and they do not get the full negotiated salary. so if there are people who give them a small amount or a gift, that is a big deal to them and for sure they will appreciate it a lot, especially since we know that they are one of the people who will protect us, their lives are at stake in their work as well as soldiers and police.
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Not a good idea to tip them directly, so that they can fully focus on their jobs and don't always expect tips from customers or don't turn into beggars when they are not tipped. Tips from customers could be handed to their managers for safe keeping and given to them occasionally or when they recieve their salaries/wages/allowances. There could be sign in the mall that reads: "if you want to tip any of the security personnel please do that in the tipping section outside the mall."

By the way, tipping directly could encourage bribery. If someone for example steals something from a mall that allows directly tipping security people, the thief could use money to blind them or to make them overlook the crime.
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Since the security guards in shop mall accepted the job based on the pay and responsibilities of the job, I don't think that they are not happy with the job, and this is why they are working to give their best to the job.

If everyone that comes into the mall tips them, don't you think that they will be making more money than some of those customers shopping in the mall, because if you shop in a mall doesn't mean that you are rich.

Secondly, the security guards might get use to tipping and they will abuse it by asking people to always tip them because they have been spoilt with tipping and this will distract them from carrying out their duties effectly. You can tip them if you want but it is something of choice and not compulsory.
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secondly, security guards these days are just a visual deterrent, they are not allowed to get "hands on" even if they know a thief has stolen goods on them. all they can do is observe and report
Yeah that's correct, I think security guards and shop keepers are similar, both of them are vulnerable. After all it's the police job to catch the thief.

Unfortunately security guards or shop keepers aren't receive fairly wage, some business owner also force them to recover the loss since they can't resist the thieves to stole their products. That's why some of them choose to fight the thieves.
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But I see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.
These days technology does much of the security jobs. There are CCTV cameras and censors in almost all major shops or malls. Security personnel might not be inside the mall because they are in the security room watching the store through the CCTV screens. Since most of them are not permitted to have firearms in my country, they are not expected to confront armed robbers. They should take cover like other staff or shoppers in case of such violent attacks.

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When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and I have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

They are trained to be nice to customers so they are just doing their jobs. They might lose their job if they are not respectful or friendly to the customers. These workers are underpaid mostly in developing nations where the minimum wage laws are not enforced. In developed nations, they are well paid based on the stipulated remuneration benchmark for such jobs. Giving them tips is optional because the economic situation is also affecting everyone adversely.
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I agree that we should really appreciate and deeply value our employees that make sure we are safe and protected however there is this running joke in my country wherein a guard at the mall never actually checks our bags they just do the bare minimum

Of course it is different if it were in other places such as the bank you can expect that they are much more strict another example is in the airport security guards should be well respected but i can argue that the kind of work they do differs depending on the place they are stationed in

Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

That is true they can be considered as heroes with how many security guards get involved with such criminals they go after them with bravery
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

tipping is usually only for businesses too cheap to value their employee's (EG waitresses)
if a business cares about its employees they should fairly pay their staff. let their wage be the appreciation of the job that they do

secondly, security guards these days are just a visual deterrent, they are not allowed to get "hands on" even if they know a thief has stolen goods on them. all they can do is observe and report

in the olden days if a security guard could get hands on and they manage to save a company money be removing the thief and bringing the stolen goods back to the business, the business would give them a bonus

but now the security cant do much, its becomes less of a risk of harm and less of a compensatory nature

dont fear being a security guard, because in most cases your life wont come into contact with any violent person. its no longer your job to subdue a thief. you simply try to find a thief and call the cops, whilst you stand at a safe distance and observe
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america is the only country that thinks workers deserve a tip just for doing their job.. when in actual fact workers deserve a fair wage and bonuses from their employer for doing their job
if a employer wants their employees to risk their life as part of employment conditions the employer should pay for the extra service they want

its not the customers duty to pay a tip. if a box of devices are stolen. its not the customers problem the customer just grabs another box off the shelf. the customer should not be paying a tip for stuff the customer does not receive.
a theif stealing goods has nothing to do with the customers
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

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