Topic: Sometimes tips the securities at the mall or local shops - page 3. (Read 555 times)

they dont risk lives for customers. they risk losing their jobs if they dont deter thiefs from stealing a businesses property.
its upto the business to compensate their employees

just read the signs in shopping mall car parks.


if there is a thief in a shopping mall that grabs a customers wallet or purse.. the victim has no recourse to sue the shopping mall for lack of security.. again its customers own risk.

security are these days not even responsible to get hands on with a thief they are just trained to take notes, make records and reports of observations and pass it onto the police. EG take picture of thiefs, what they are wearing and what direction they went

its not a customers responsibility to then pay the security guards wages directly. its the employers job to pay the security guard

I agree with you.  Security personnel are risking their lives to provide services for us.  Their work is really commendable.  Because they are there, we can travel safely in the mall, on the road, in the bank. They risk their lives and provide security to our lives.  We can do this little bit for them.  A few money tips will make them very happy I believe.  Their happiness can be the reason for our happiness.  We should respect them.  Think how dangerous our public life would be without security guards

i believe it is not the usual norm that we give tips to security guards. but when you talk about waiters/waitresses, we really give them tips like it is a must after we finished eating. so it is not because  we don't give tips to guards but it is not common tradition that we grow up with.

i also don't know any country or area where they give tips to security guards. never heard such. so it is not surprising that we haven't seen such gesture from the public.

instead of tips, i guess, we can show respect to their profession by -
> being polite / not arrogant to them upon entering their premises
> greet them with a smile / happy face
> saying thank you whenever they open the door for you

for me, they are more than happy already when you show those gestures to them. sometimes, it is not the money that is important but how you treat people

    I'm so certain that a huge percentage of us fail in this aspect of giving tips to securities. I don't know why. It isn't some kind of abomination whatsoever. For me I'd say it's just a little motivation for them to keep doing well at what they do. We need to at least put ourselves in some people's shoes before knowing exactly where it pinches.
   Some of us we'd walk into a mall, the security may put up a welcoming smile and we'd just reply their gesture with a straight face and the same way we'd walk out. Some of these guys are earning way below what will even be befitting enough for themselves and their families, some would even go as far as begging for these tips while some will stay hoping that we'd be touched in us to tip them. There's no harm in it. Yes, we may not have enough, but considering the efforts and dedication they're putting to work and just because of the littlest love we have in us, we just ought to try to practice it. We're not their employees, we've got our own headache but the little love and care will be highly appreciated by these people and definitely can pave ways for blessings too. No one knows.

I don't actually like the idea of tipping since this could be the start of discrimination on some places since those workers looking after for tips might not give a proper service to those people who they think will not give them a tip. Then treat good those rich looking costumer since they think to get more better top from them.

That's why its better than nothing so that workers could treat anyone the same. I understand that they do a lot of efforts but its up to their management on how they threat their workers since if they give the right salary and benefits to them for sure they will not ask for more and create some pressure in their work place.

Also for OP we know how security guards work their assigned jobs so maybe they should forget about that so they will not get stressed and just do their job so that they can perform well to their job and their boss will be more happier to the performance they are showing.

They're actually doing their jobs. I don't think it's an obligation to tip security workers, neither does it make you a better person. If you want to do it, do it, if you don't want to then don't.
The only thing a customer owes a security guard is respect. Just treat them like humans that they are, as equals and part of the ways we can treat them with respect is by advocating that their employers treat them with respect and also pay them fairly.

Tipping a security guard is not mandatory, a kind gesture but not mandatory and it in no way make you a better person.
By your logic we should be tipping security personnels as well. The project lives and properties and maintain order. But it's their job. All we have to do is respect them and let them do their jobs.

What do you think, OP? Are security guards similar to waiters, hairdressers, or couriers? Did you know that these people occupy different places in the service hierarchy? The fact that you like the service in the store is not at all the same as what the security guards do. Will you tip a fireman, a policeman, and finally a military man who fights and protects your country?
Doesn't this seem too humiliating for such professions? Are you ready to give them that little thing that you don’t need?

That's true because jobs have been prepared with various salary specifications before they are accepted and tipping them is not an obligation for visitors. I have heard of workers being given tips by visitors and when they are found out it will result in them being called in to be questioned about the tips they received, do we want to see workers getting into trouble accepting tips from people even though the tips given are sincere?

The culture of tipping others is sometimes inappropriate in some areas because they are discouraged from accepting tips by the companies they work for. Although there are also workers who ignore this rule and accept tips if given by visitors and it goes back to the principle of each person giving it.

these days there is no such thing as security in supermarkets..
there are customer-recognition CCTV that follow customers around a store and can see people add products to a shopping cart. and the self checkouts then also communicate with the systems.. ensuring all items are offloaded from the cart, scanned and then counted into bags.. and then you have the "store greeter" who then interrogates peoples shopping carts and their receipts to see if the number of items match how many are listed on a receipt

its not the job of the public to side-subsidise the greeter that check peoples carts. its the businesses job to pay these greeter a fair wage upfront.

customers should not need to pay for goods and then pay a tip to the greeter who interrogates their shopping cart, preventing the customer from leaving the supermarket until the greeter is happily compensated

the way supermarkets operate is by using greeters to do security checks means they dont have to pay proper security rated pay. and instead pay a elderly near pension age greeter the minimum wage and class them as just customer service rather then security.

That’s your opinion and it’s well received. Tipping is purely optional and should never be mandated. If you feel the service received is good and worthy of appreciation, then by all means, go ahead and tip. Giving tips is an optional gesture of being thankful from the customer for an excellent service provided.

I’d like to think that security being a priority in any organization or business, would pay their security staff a decent amount. Asides that, no employee should have to rely on tips to augment what they get paid.

Security guards are the same as us, just ordinary people who find thieves carrying firearms. while he was only equipped with a club. Yes, he was also running around chaotically... because if he fought him he would die silly. Because he knows, he is not a police officer equipped with a firearm and bulletproof vest. so that if he was shot, he would die on the spot because the bullet went straight through his body. Their duties are indeed very difficult, but only a few security guards actually work according to their responsibilities, oaths and promises.

However, because currently many robbers or thieves use firearms, in my opinion it is appropriate that security guards should be given similar equipment, namely firearms and bulletproof vests. Because they were also confused about having to fight a robber who was carrying a gun, the security guard hit the robber with a bat, before the security guard hit him with a bat... but the bullet had already strayed into his body.
And related to giving money, if you are good enough then just give them according to your ability...

I am a giver and I really love to see when people give, I am not against the idea of tipping as well but you see all those lovely smiles and kind words they say? They are paid for it. Because you cannot continue frowning your face at customers. If you do so, you’ll make them uncomfortable and they may not feel pleased to come back. So I do believe it is part of their job and this is known as “customer service”. Nonetheless, I think it is still okay to tip them. I generally like tipping people who are polite, respectful, caring, etc. For instance you nearly fell and the person rushes to help you and starts asking if you’re okay. That’s a personality outside the job, that deserves something.

What is called security, wherever they are, they must carry out their duties as well as possible. Be it in malls, restaurants, offices, or in residential areas. Even though they have the risk of being exposed to crime, that is their duty.

But in my personal opinion, the security guards who work in malls, perhaps the biggest challenge is not the thieves or criminals who want to rob the entire mall. However, regarding service, you must remain a friendly and smiling person even when you are tired. Because currently it's a matter of security, CCTV is on every corner. So criminals will not dare to rob at the mall.

And giving tips to security guards is indeed a good thing and there is nothing wrong with it. Because they have indeed provided their service well.

I agree with what you said, there is nothing wrong if you give them a tip if they have helped you but if you give a tip for no reason it doesn't look good. Yah, it's our choice to give a tip but we should put it in the right place. But for me it's not ideal that you always tip the guards, it's okay to thank them if they helped you, they will appreciate your thank you because they saw that you appreciated the help they did for you.

Giving tips is a good practice, of course. However, there are still factors that we need to consider before doing so. For example, are their employees or the management they are working under allowing them to accept tips? We have to remember that some management has a policy regarding their employees accepting any kind of compensation from clients or customers outside their actual bills. We need to be mindful about this as instead of providing help we might even cause them to have problems in their work. Another factor is if it is financially okay for us, what I mean by this is if our financial capacity or status allows us to do so then go ahead. However, we should still keep in mind that giving tips is not mandatory and should just be done when you have the means to do so.

i would find it suspicious if people will give them money in public actually. so it's best if they equally divide what's in the tip box.

it's also the guards that people ask sometimes when they need directions on where to find the store. it's not easy guarding a mall with hundreds of people inside who could just open some stuff that will be deemed unsaleable after it. yes, they also deserve to receive tips, maybe if they do have a tip box mall goers will put some into their box.

Some companies and places do not allow their security people or workers to receive tips because of the effect it can have on their work culture. With the promise of an extra tip for a worker who provides a service in a place, they can be forced to do and offer services to you more their job description, just to claim the promised tip from you. Security personnel's and workers in a place are paid salaries, it is not compulsory to tip them. If you must, do it because you want to, not under any form of pressure.

the security agent at every location they are assigned to carry out their duty perform task that endanger their lives just so the masses can engages in a peaceful activity. Once you see them, you just comfortably go around the mall with confidence because you know if for any reason anything goes wrong, you have someone to come to your rescue.

It's very necessary for occasionally express our gratitude to the services they render even with the little pay they receive at the end of every months
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And some of then still manage to put out a smiling face even after they've not been paid for a long time.

I guess this popular statement by my local police force sums it all up, "the security officers are your friends, and so treat them like one and don't be mean towards them.

I agree with what you said that we should really appreciate them, but I don't think giving them a tip is a good idea. Not everyone who goes to malls is rich, they are just like security guards who work hard so that they can buy things for their loved ones, but if you feel free to give them a tip, that's your choice. Maybe it's optional for us if we give them a tip especially if they really helped us.

Everyone deserves to be paid to the extent that they can live normally and not depend on tips. When it comes to security guards, I don't think it would be wise to tip them, because imagine someone giving such a tip, and then going to steal something in the store in the hope that the security guard will turn his head the other way. In any case, I think it's a bad idea.

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Here where I live (EU) security guards have the authority to not only detain someone they suspect of having stolen something, but also to take him to a special room and search him until the police arrive. What I have a problem with is that if someone steals goods worth less than approximately EUR 300, the state does not act according to its official duty and does not sue that person, but the possibility of a lawsuit is transferred to the store owner. This is called a minor deed.


I would not agree that such a way of thinking exists only in the US, because even in the EU waiters always expect a tip, but more and more delivery people are not happy if you don't at least leave them some change. It seems that more and more people think that they are not paid enough and expect some kind of compensation directly from clients, and I sometimes like to reward someone who has done something above my expectations, but I think that such things should be optional, not any type of obligation.