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I do not understand what they mean when they say that this law does not affect sponsorship of betting abroad and also has anyone else seen this? I speak of this:

Quote from: https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/la-liga-betting-shirt-sponsors-2020-21-season

Barcelona’s official betting partnership with 1XBet is a global deal.

from what I knew here on the forum this site 1XBet is a scam, they also have agreements with banks in my country and Mpesa in my country, but they are scam, it is very strange that they have agreements with an important team and banks in my country

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If that is the case then they should ban sports betting, it's like they are killing this industry, sports thrive on sponsorship without it the team is at the mercy of gate sales the government should also take care of this industry because they are compliant and they are paying their taxes and many will be affected by their actions it has many jobs and industries attach to them.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on September 05, 2021, 04:58:32 PM

The government's action shows that they do care about their youth.
It may not be effective route, but it may help in lessening the temptation as they are not seeing those ads.
I hope their government will release their data after this implementation, if they are indeed at least reducing the figures related to gambling.
And if the numbers are significant, they can always endorse it to other countries as well.
If the positive outweighs the negative, they may be doing right in this new protocol.

I do not think that this decision will significantly reduce the recognition of gambling brands among young people because young people have not watched state television for a long time and on the Internet after the entry into force of this law this kind of gambling advertising will be even more besides soccer clubs in other countries will continue to advertise bookmakers and gambling. In my opinion this is another law that will not be able to protect children from unwanted information.

I really like your opinion and do believe it or not the fact is like that.
considering that today's young people very rarely watch television and indeed what is being watched is not only La Liga even though they are in Spain.
I think this will indeed have an effect caused by the ban, but the effect is very small and will not have a major impact on the prohibition of gambling there, in fact this will add to the problem that the government must face, namely the dissatisfaction of several teams in La Liga who are indeed still have sponsorship contracts with gambling sites.
other than that I don't think there will be more, but for sure there will be some people who will stop gambling due to this set of rules but don't forget that gambling like this is like that one person will stop but there will be some new people who will start gambling.

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Quote from: paxmao on September 01, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/la-liga-betting-shirt-sponsors-2020-21-season

The new law has knocked down strongly all the preferred advertising options for betting business. They cannot, for example, be on a teams shirt nor celebrities from sports are allowed to promote betting houses or platforms. Also, the adds in TV can only be run late at night. Needless to say that is a torpedo on the finances of several teams and may affect their ability to recruit and maintain the right players.

Teams directly affected:

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Alavés (Betway), Cádiz (Dafabet), Granada (Winamax), Levante (Betway), Real Betis (Betway), Sevilla (MarathonBet) and Valencia (Bwin).

That might be a nice move to ban the advertising on different platforms but at the same time I do think that you have to ask yourself one question ⁉️ how will the people advertise now!?? How will the gambling companies get through !? They might need some different options and they might not be safe. They could have regulated it for sure which might have been way better. Regulations are always way better than banning and at the same time advertising is a part of businesses, if the Spanish government agrees to not take any revenue from the gambling companies then they might be doing good with the whole thing but the point is, they would still take the revenue and forget about the whole thing.

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Quote from: michellee on September 06, 2021, 12:10:59 AM

I am sure there will be positive and negative from those regulations for both gamblers or people. We all know that it will not stop gamblers from gambling and coming to their favourite gambling sites. The lockdown process in many countries makes people confuse and sad because they can not make money from their job and with the growth of the gambling business, that attract some people try their luck by playing many gambling games.

I believe this will end soon, no matter we are still in lockdown until the next year because sooner or later, the health company will use the right method to prevent the spreading of the virus. When that can happen, people will be happy because they can go out without worrying about anything, but they still need to protect their health from the other virus.

yes, of course it will be like that because every action there must be positive and negative things and the response you get there must be pros and cons depending on everyone who responds. as well as here and I'm sure the Spanish people will understand this even though it is still at risk of getting rejected from some parties but all the rules set by the government are standard and will be difficult to change so like it or not the gamblers there have to accept this.
maybe it will be like that because now there is less and less news about this and sooner or later this pandemic will end soon because health workers from each country always work hard in tackling this and now vaccines have been promoted in every country with the hope that people who in the vaccine, the immune system can be stronger so that it is not effective against the virus that is rampant now.

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If that is the case then they should ban sports betting, it's like they are killing this industry, sports thrive on sponsorship without it the team is at the mercy of gate sales the government should also take care of this industry because they are compliant and they are paying their taxes and many will be affected by their actions it has many jobs and industries attach to them.

No, I do not think so because sports betting will be still available, but the casino will not show the activity because the government can track them down easily. A gambling industry can still run without a problem because the gambler will use the other way to place their bet. And if the gamblers can not do that in their country, they will use the online way which will help them place the bets.

In this case, I find it increasingly difficult to find the point of the problem that what is the benefit of the government from limiting advertising to all aspects that have provided a large tax revenue to the government in Spain? They only hinder the flow of the entry of large funding channels, but also allow the sport not to wear a sponsor? The Spanish government shouldn't make half-and-half regulations if it wants to eliminate gambling, isn't it more complete to legalize gambling than to limit advertising regulations that are only intended for a few related institutions.

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Huge money is going to lose on this new law that's being implemented in Spain. We know that there are too many sports fans there and as well as sports bettors.

Yes it will have a huge impact to casinos, the same goes to influencers because they cant promote a platform that can also give them profit for doing it.

This law might be their solution to prevent their people especially the minors to engage themselves on such activity. However we know if there's a will, there's a way thus if a person is interested to gamble regardless if there's an advertisement around or not, its not hard to find a gambling site that can satisfy yourself.

I stand behind this strict law in Spain. Yes, people will find a way to gamble but at least the government must try and dry out the possible ways where minors are exposed to gambling advertisements. A lot of clubs and teams might be affected but I really appreciate this step as a whole and should bring net positive.

I am not aware of the problem status, whether it's illegal or not but this step should cut down some addiction problems and more importantly, the minors who are exposed to gambling at early age.

The government's action shows that they do care about their youth.
It may not be effective route, but it may help in lessening the temptation as they are not seeing those ads.
I hope their government will release their data after this implementation, if they are indeed at least reducing the figures related to gambling.
And if the numbers are significant, they can always endorse it to other countries as well.
If the positive outweighs the negative, they may be doing right in this new protocol.

I do not think that this decision will significantly reduce the recognition of gambling brands among young people because young people have not watched state television for a long time and on the Internet after the entry into force of this law this kind of gambling advertising will be even more besides soccer clubs in other countries will continue to advertise bookmakers and gambling. In my opinion this is another law that will not be able to protect children from unwanted information.

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Quote from: judeafante on September 06, 2021, 03:12:52 AM

If that is the case then they should ban sports betting, it's like they are killing this industry, sports thrive on sponsorship without it the team is at the mercy of gate sales the government should also take care of this industry because they are compliant and they are paying their taxes and many will be affected by their actions it has many jobs and industries attach to them.

No, I do not think so because sports betting will be still available, but the casino will not show the activity because the government can track them down easily. A gambling industry can still run without a problem because the gambler will use the other way to place their bet. And if the gamblers can not do that in their country, they will use the online way which will help them place the bets.

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Quote from: Poker Player on September 04, 2021, 11:37:06 PM

Hey man, seriously? I'm in favor of the gambling industry but to say that there is nothing wrong with gambling seems too exaggerated for me.

Well, tell me one thing that doesn't have any problems with it. Big industries produce a lot of waste but that doesn't mean you stop the industries. I think the focus should be on controlling gambling addicts instead of banning gambling itself or its ads.

Quote from: Poker Player on September 04, 2021, 11:37:06 PM

Of course there are bad things in the gaming world. We have the problem of addictions, which in my opinion usually come more from a previous problem of the person than from the game itself, but gambling is not like eating vegetables, where we can say that there is nothing wrong with it.

There is even addiction for some people watching movies, doesn't mean we shall ban movie theatres.

Quote from: Poker Player on September 04, 2021, 11:37:06 PM

there is the problem of minors, which has already been mentioned. So no, the gambling industry is not as harmless as the cultivation of organic vegetables.

Tighten up the laws regarding minors gambling. Enforce rules if a casino is found to breach the rules, their license shall be revoked and serious punishment shall be served.

Talking of organic vegetables, even there's a risk of some oxytocin injected into them.

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Quote from: agg2702 on September 05, 2021, 01:36:14 PM

Quote from: michellee on September 04, 2021, 11:34:48 PM

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Quote from: michellee on September 04, 2021, 08:16:21 AM

The advertisements or promotions from the gambling company will reduce because of that but that does not mean the young generation can not see the ads because sometimes, they do not sleep at pass midnight. I think the governments are trying to reduce the number of gamblers because they think in this pandemic, while people stay at home and watch many things, people will also see the ads about gambling, which makes them place their bets on sports. Maybe the La Liga teams need to find the other sponsors companies that want to join with them not to lose their income from the advertisements.

Actually, with the rules set, I think it will add new problems, especially for teams that have sponsors in La Liga.
but the possibility of reducing gambling problems in their country is quite small in terms of success because now it is not only television media and it is true that the pandemic is one of the roots of the problem here because with this virus, the economy is getting worse and more and more people are in the world. in the house in the long run, and I think they gamble not without reason because they think this is an instant way to make money even though this is not entirely true.

Every decision will have a side effect, whether we already calculate or knows it or not, because if those rules are still be applied, the new problems will come out as you said. It is difficult to solve gambling problems because if one people stop gambling, the other people will start gambling. If people know the real danger of playing gambling in the long term, they can think twice about that and not try to engage in gambling games.

People themselves need money to survive in this pandemic and they see gambling can be one of many ways to make money. But they do not think more about the danger for their life. Hopefully, the banning of betting ads could help reduce gambling problems, especially reducing gambling addiction.

it's like dying one grows a thousand

and indeed this happens in terms of gambling, and believe it or not it is a fact, because one gambler stops but on the other hand 2 to 3 people just start gambling. and problems like this will never end.
but it's true of course the government in Spain has started planning and realizing this and of course a ban like this will have an impact, even though it can't be predicted whether it will be significant or not.
and about this it is true because the effects of the lockdown have hampered all of their livelihoods whether at work or in running a business and governments in all countries are worried about the virus that continues to attack brutally with more and more variants so that inevitably a lockdown must be carried out, because the government is worried that its citizens will die from the virus but on the other hand the government has not thought that the effect of the lockdown will make their citizens die of hunger.

I am sure there will be positive and negative from those regulations for both gamblers or people. We all know that it will not stop gamblers from gambling and coming to their favourite gambling sites. The lockdown process in many countries makes people confuse and sad because they can not make money from their job and with the growth of the gambling business, that attract some people try their luck by playing many gambling games.

I believe this will end soon, no matter we are still in lockdown until the next year because sooner or later, the health company will use the right method to prevent the spreading of the virus. When that can happen, people will be happy because they can go out without worrying about anything, but they still need to protect their health from the other virus.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on September 05, 2021, 04:58:32 PM

The government's action shows that they do care about their youth.
It may not be effective route, but it may help in lessening the temptation as they are not seeing those ads.
I hope their government will release their data after this implementation, if they are indeed at least reducing the figures related to gambling.
And if the numbers are significant, they can always endorse it to other countries as well.
If the positive outweighs the negative, they may be doing right in this new protocol.

That should be the main reason why they have a need and immediate implementation of the law, it may look unreasonable but if they can show the data that it is indeed the case then the team can understand the situation and they may have to look for other ways to effectively advertise, but the sponsorship will now be gone and they have to look for ways to have revenues other than sponsorship, it's a harsh law but the government is looking for long term solution to youth addiction to gambling

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Quote from: lienfaye on September 05, 2021, 06:49:04 AM

Quote from: tabas on September 05, 2021, 04:25:09 AM

Huge money is going to lose on this new law that's being implemented in Spain. We know that there are too many sports fans there and as well as sports bettors.

Yes it will have a huge impact to casinos, the same goes to influencers because they cant promote a platform that can also give them profit for doing it.

This law might be their solution to prevent their people especially the minors to engage themselves on such activity. However we know if there's a will, there's a way thus if a person is interested to gamble regardless if there's an advertisement around or not, its not hard to find a gambling site that can satisfy yourself.

Yes, it's another source of income for those influencers, teams, and those who will be largely affected by this new law.
I guess you're right that it's also part of helping their people to be protected from any gambling exposure. But they don't have to go that deep as there will be a lot of those people that will be affected by it.

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Quote from: coin-investor on September 05, 2021, 04:50:09 PM

The decision is harsh but they will not come out with a decision to implement such a strict law without the backing of the data, there could be a big rise in gambling among youth sectors and they want to restrict seeing those ads coming from betting sites to protect the young sector, but they should have a dialog in the first place so they will get the part of the concern parties and come out with a much better plan and not banning all these kind of ads.

That's right. The decision is made by the result of their brainstorming. They won't implement it if no prior studies have been made for even at least a year. It was also being consulted by a much higher person or individual. I also don' see any complaints from legislators so it means the vote is a majority.

Since it's already there, the government should monitor its impact on it. Reconsider their decision if there's something not good is happening like too much financial loss, unemployment, service-related issues, and many more.

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Quote from: doomloop on September 05, 2021, 03:55:40 PM

Quote from: lienfaye on September 05, 2021, 06:49:04 AM

Quote from: tabas on September 05, 2021, 04:25:09 AM

Huge money is going to lose on this new law that's being implemented in Spain. We know that there are too many sports fans there and as well as sports bettors.

Yes it will have a huge impact to casinos, the same goes to influencers because they cant promote a platform that can also give them profit for doing it.

This law might be their solution to prevent their people especially the minors to engage themselves on such activity. However we know if there's a will, there's a way thus if a person is interested to gamble regardless if there's an advertisement around or not, its not hard to find a gambling site that can satisfy yourself.

I stand behind this strict law in Spain. Yes, people will find a way to gamble but at least the government must try and dry out the possible ways where minors are exposed to gambling advertisements. A lot of clubs and teams might be affected but I really appreciate this step as a whole and should bring net positive.

I am not aware of the problem status, whether it's illegal or not but this step should cut down some addiction problems and more importantly, the minors who are exposed to gambling at early age.

The government's action shows that they do care about their youth.
It may not be effective route, but it may help in lessening the temptation as they are not seeing those ads.
I hope their government will release their data after this implementation, if they are indeed at least reducing the figures related to gambling.
And if the numbers are significant, they can always endorse it to other countries as well.
If the positive outweighs the negative, they may be doing right in this new protocol.

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Quote from: paxmao on September 01, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

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Spanish football keeps getting shitty with each passing day. At this point, I don't really see anything more that's interesting about Spanish football. That decision was an outright harsh one coming from the authorities. I wonder how these that are directly affected with this ban will fare with the lack of sponsorship from these gambling platforms/companies that choose to partner with them before the ban. It's very much unfortunate. At this rate, Viewership in Spanish will shrink to the bare minimum.

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The decision is harsh but they will not come out with a decision to implement such a strict law without the backing of the data, there could be a big rise in gambling among youth sectors and they want to restrict seeing those ads coming from betting sites to protect the young sector, but they should have a dialog in the first place so they will get the part of the concern parties and come out with a much better plan and not banning all these kind of ads.

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Quote from: lienfaye on September 05, 2021, 06:49:04 AM

Quote from: tabas on September 05, 2021, 04:25:09 AM

Huge money is going to lose on this new law that's being implemented in Spain. We know that there are too many sports fans there and as well as sports bettors.

Yes it will have a huge impact to casinos, the same goes to influencers because they cant promote a platform that can also give them profit for doing it.

This law might be their solution to prevent their people especially the minors to engage themselves on such activity. However we know if there's a will, there's a way thus if a person is interested to gamble regardless if there's an advertisement around or not, its not hard to find a gambling site that can satisfy yourself.

I stand behind this strict law in Spain. Yes, people will find a way to gamble but at least the government must try and dry out the possible ways where minors are exposed to gambling advertisements. A lot of clubs and teams might be affected but I really appreciate this step as a whole and should bring net positive.

I am not aware of the problem status, whether it's illegal or not but this step should cut down some addiction problems and more importantly, the minors who are exposed to gambling at early age.

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Quote from: madnessteat on September 05, 2021, 11:43:13 AM

In my country, advertising of alcoholic beverages on TV is banned, but that hasn't stopped many alcoholic companies from producing non-alcoholic beer and advertising it under the same brand name. It is quite possible that in this situation, too, they will come up with a workaround that will satisfy the needs of both sports clubs and bookmakers.

Of course because there is always a gap to do that in my country too and even because cigarettes are only for adults in my country cigarette advertisements were only done at night a few years ago, but for now cigarette advertisements can be seen on television at during the day but with different advertisements such as showing adrenaline or showing being a tough man but still behind him there is a cigarette brand being advertised.
and this will not rule out such a possibility because every rule must always have loopholes that certain people take advantage of.

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Quote from: paxmao on September 01, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/la-liga-betting-shirt-sponsors-2020-21-season

The new law has knocked down strongly all the preferred advertising options for betting business. They cannot, for example, be on a teams shirt nor celebrities from sports are allowed to promote betting houses or platforms. Also, the adds in TV can only be run late at night. Needless to say that is a torpedo on the finances of several teams and may affect their ability to recruit and maintain the right players.

Teams directly affected:

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Alavés (Betway), Cádiz (Dafabet), Granada (Winamax), Levante (Betway), Real Betis (Betway), Sevilla (MarathonBet) and Valencia (Bwin).

We're likely to see this more and more with other countries around the world, it is surprising that they have been able to get away with it for so long. Gambling can be very destructive and throwing it in front of tens of millions of people around the world every day is bound to cause a few of them problems. Football should pride itself on being a skilled and athletic game, it has little need to associate with these companies that suck peoples money away with little returned. In much the same way as cigarette and alcohol based advertising was restricted in the past, it is going to be stopped in every rational country who wants to help troubled gamblers. Maybe football clubs should be more wise with their budgets in future, than throwing constantly increasing amounts to acquire players.

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Quote from: Silberman on September 05, 2021, 10:49:41 AM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on September 03, 2021, 10:03:16 AM

This is absolutely obnoxious. I am sick and tired of seeing countries making backwards progress. There is nothing wrong with gambling and this should be something that is left up to the people to decide on, not an overlord. I guess I am just tired of countries making backwards moves and seemingly many of them of late.

While I do not like it either this is the kind of government most people want and deserve, as soon as they run into a problem they run to the government asking for a solution to their problems not realizing that whatever solution the government can come up makes things way worse, as yourself I do not think this is the correct path, we must give as much freedom as possible to the people, it is true some will make mistakes because of that freedom but this is not a reason to restrict the freedom of the 99% which can gamble responsibly.

The solution is that online gambling can be accessed without having to accept restrictions, maybe crypto betting would be much better than trying to accept the ad promotion limits that have been warned for your celebrities and other sports that are already regulated. Some Spanish governments, if traced, are also gambling out of sight and there it has become commonplace. It's just that some groups make a lot of complaints about how advertising users are hurting their revenue.

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