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Topic: Spondoolies Spam - page 4. (Read 8119 times)

hero member
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December 23, 2014, 11:13:52 AM
#72
i count 11 threads with bitmain in the title! did any1 complained?

There is no where near 11, and if people are asking questions outside of the appropriate areas then report those posts. I would be more than happy to merge anything bitmain into one of the two bitmain threads per product but I'm not an admin so you have to have patience.

are u blind or just acting like a fool?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?

14threads related to bitmain miners atm! and it goes like this:  5 threads started by bitmain and 4 by you!
the rest are from customers with bitmain miner related problems!
btw: any thread with SPTech customers crying like bitmain customers?

Did any1 complain that bitmain has a thread for each of its own miner?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?
and SPTech only 1 for all.....
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
December 22, 2014, 10:59:03 PM
#71
Issue has been resolved, CK has set an appropriate precedent:

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

tldr no one is allowed to flood spam
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
December 22, 2014, 10:58:15 PM
#70
i count 11 threads with bitmain in the title! did any1 complained?

There is no where near 11, and if people are asking questions outside of the appropriate areas then report those posts. I would be more than happy to merge anything bitmain into one of the two bitmain threads per product but I'm not an admin so you have to have patience.
hero member
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December 22, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
#69
there is one simple way of fixing these "omg spamz" problem, each major company has their own sub forum inside the "Hardware" section, and an extra for the "New Companies" and its upto the main company to monitor their subs.

... oh i can see whats going to happen if that ever came in. "i don't like your words, *delete*"

but if people going to have hate over Ckolivas de-cluttering the forums by collating all the reviews, they have a problem, i was surprised it never happened.

Hell, even if the thread owners locked the original post and moved onto the other 2, that would help out the "spamz in ma face" issue
hero member
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December 22, 2014, 09:42:49 PM
#68
i count 11 threads with bitmain in the title! did any1 complained?

i count 4 threads starting with [Guide] Dogie's  by some guy that thinks is the l'ombelico del mondo

yes! you are the spam!
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
December 22, 2014, 07:51:57 PM
#67
If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.

The greater problem is that there isn't a concrete admin policy on the issue. One company was allowed and it appears that the policy is that anyone can do it. But if another company does exactly the same thing but on a larger scale, can we guarantee there would be no admin intervention?

The above Post has been sponsored by Bitmain-Tech.

yes dogie, cheers for that.

Again, says the christmas tree -_- My relationship with bitmain does not extend outside their threads. Can we get back OT though please?
sr. member
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December 22, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
#66
If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.

The greater problem is that there isn't a concrete admin policy on the issue. One company was allowed and it appears that the policy is that anyone can do it. But if another company does exactly the same thing but on a larger scale, can we guarantee there would be no admin intervention?

The above Post has been sponsored by Bitmain-Tech.

yes dogie, cheers for that.
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
December 22, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
#65
If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.

The greater problem is that there isn't a concrete admin policy on the issue. One company was allowed and it appears that the policy is that anyone can do it. But if another company does exactly the same thing but on a larger scale, can we guarantee there would be no admin intervention?
legendary
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December 21, 2014, 02:47:09 PM
#64
If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.

I couldn't agree more. I appreciate the fact that it allows n00bs like me a way of (possibly) earning some starter bitcoins, but sig campaigns are unbecoming to the forum. I would personally sign a petition to have them removed. I was fine with faucets Tongue
legendary
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Hello!
December 21, 2014, 02:24:17 PM
#63
An obvious compromise between having numerous review posts and having manufacture sub-forums is to create a mining review sub-forum.



I agree, a manufacturer subforum would be too much hassle but this is a good idea
sr. member
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December 21, 2014, 12:19:20 PM
#62
An obvious compromise between having numerous review posts and having manufacture sub-forums is to create a mining review sub-forum.



that's a good idea, however I still prefer the idea of manufacturers child boards, simply because it'd be more user-friendly in navigation.
legendary
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December 21, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
#61
An obvious compromise between having numerous review posts and having manufacture sub-forums is to create a mining review sub-forum.

legendary
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December 21, 2014, 11:36:05 AM
#60
I do not see any issues with the give away for some good reviews..it does get old seeing the same old boring stuff in that thread. I really would like to see a manufacture specific sub for each company though. Maybe after a company has released a working product allow them a specific sub? *Disclaimer I was given one of these wonderful miners*
I would be good with Bitmain giving samples - I am ready to review a S4 anytime they wish to ship me one  Tongue
hero member
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December 21, 2014, 10:17:30 AM
#59
I think Spondoolies did somewhat cause the spam by giving away so many of their miners under the condition that a review was to be made for the device. I really don't see it causing that much harm though as each thread is not going to cause that much of a distraction and they will probably quickly die/fade away.

It probably would have been more appropriate for Spondoolies to have the reviews be made in the "main" thread and then they could quote the review in the OP or 2nd/3rd reserved page

Consolidation into a single thread (SPT had a couple to choose from) would have been the smart and right thing to do.

If the other manufactures don't do it then ya it was completely harmless (unless you care about SPT spending money to advertise here and the forum not getting paid for it, which some do and some don't).  If all of a sudden other manufactures start to do it to compete it will detract from the readability of the Hardware forum IMO.

Which is why it needs to be stopped, now. It would be entirely unfair to allow this episode to continue and NOT let a further one by a different manufacturer continue.

There is also the issue that mod's that actively decide what is allowed and not are involved in this (and potentially future) giveaways. SS received a unit from the main giveaway and CK rightly from a cgminer perspective. At what point does it simply become a bribe in order to circumvent otherwise 'accepted' standards? [This is an entirely theoretical question, I'm not suggesting that's what happened here. But seriously, what if every admin was targeted in a giveaway, such that no one wants to actually stop the obvious spam?]

Dogie and the rest ..

While I find dogie's guides not technical enough to read respond to them, they should be consolidated too ..
I don't see a reason for dogie's individual reviews remaining out there as posted and MY review  (if any) should be made part of any other one's thread.


In the screen capture above I actually ran through all the reviews I found and try to understand how steep is the learning curve for all legendary and hero members involved. I "bumped them" so that I can track user interest and response time for each of them.

With the Christmas around the corner, try think of giving something to the community without impersonating the forum staff. If you feel threatened in one way or the other, report my posts. The moderators do a nice job altogether .. and while I did not post too much since I joined in 2012, I read most of the forum members output. We all play by the rules ..
legendary
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December 21, 2014, 04:50:30 AM
#58
If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.
hero member
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December 21, 2014, 03:18:09 AM
#57
He must have some big ass ego! Grin
sr. member
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December 21, 2014, 03:13:51 AM
#56
I got 2 incoming! I feel, a bit like a child waiting for them to arrive! Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

It's as simple as upgrading the forum with subforums for each manufacturer, else is ok i guess!

I have made the proposal for this, some time before the review threads appeared and the consensus from the forum moderators was
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proposal-hardware-manufacturers-should-have-their-own-child-boards-889336


'meh, can't be arsed it's too much bother' or words to those effects.


dogie reckons

/Hardware would be significantly damaged with the introduction of further subforums. Who would decide what companies to add and remove, how would anyone see what was active or newly announced without entering 15 subforums, and even in each subforum there would be content sometimes years old. There simply isn't 25 topics required per company, unless you attempt to break the system like ST did. And ah, if there was subforums, ST wouldn't have spent the money to do that kind of activity in the first place. Back to not needing more than a few topics per company.


so, there you have it. butt-hurt because his own threads have been bumped down.
hero member
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December 20, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
#55
I got 2 incoming! I feel, a bit like a child waiting for them to arrive! Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

It's as simple as upgrading the forum with subforums for each manufacturer, else is ok i guess!
hero member
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December 20, 2014, 11:47:17 PM
#54
It's just the envy in them that is raging! let them cry Grin

Agreed, excellent marketing move, could it be jealousy that it wasn't thought of first by someone else?

P.S.
I am very happy with the SP20 I recently PURCHASED.
hero member
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December 20, 2014, 11:41:15 PM
#53
It's just the envy in them that is raging! let them cry Grin
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