Topic: 🔥Sportbook and Casino: BITSLER > $12,500 Daily Wagering contest < - page 32. (Read 322425 times)

but you need to show proof for us to believe you, currently it's just your word against the casino and that won't go anywhere


start showing proof, if you were stolen


having high withdrawl fees is not a scam, if you have agreed to use the site even in this condition then you can only settle for this high withdrawal fee and if you don't like it then look for another casino

Hello

I just want to warn people about bitsler and there giant scam,

I really dont know were to start but let start with there scammy casino. First they claim its provable fair its not. If you want proof look your self or just play i little on the site. I am diamond member and i can promise you that its a scam and many many people will agree with me.

Massive withdrawl fees 40$ for bitcoin withdrawal 16 for eth and other crazy amount they charge tons and for something that costs 90% less . They do this to make more money after they just have stolen from you.



There sports are a joke they have tons of technical problems in which they have rule that states if you loose due to a technicalproblem its your fault not the casinos. Its mostly a rule that says they can scam you and blame technical problems every time. I contacted the chat and they said its not a scam because its in there rules lol.

And the last is the tons of fake reviews they try to post on sites its obvuis they are posted at same time because of there crazy6 number of bad review they have to try to make ones  to clear out bad ones but even with all fake outs there feedback score on review sites is below 3 stars. They also report bad reviews as fake and more,

List goes on and on check out the tons of other bad reviews and scam complaints

This is what I am talking about, must check - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18390001

Btw these tips are from 2017 but again, 1 bitcoin was always amazing number and very symbolic one too.

I have one question to Bitsler. I didn't know until GamblingBro's post but why do you guys ask for personal details to play Evolution's live casino and to play slots? I have testes on multiple websites, both crypto and non crypto and no one was asking me to fill personal details in order to use these services, so, what's wrong with you? Hope this will be fixed soon, you are really the only one who asks for these details in order to gamble.

Maybe that's where the problem lies actually. I myself play at bitsler multiple times a week but the bonuses you are talking about are not public it seems because I don't know how one can reach Baryom so it must be invitational or something.

They have a super cool XP contest indeed which also counts sports bet so that is amazing, I agree. Drops & Wins and those tournaments are mostly done by the provider itself and I think I saw a similar promotion on many other casinos.

It's quite surprising they ask for details because if I am not mistaken, they have the same license provider as stake and stake never asked for details to play the slot games.

I think he is talking about the early goal promotion of sports betting. Those promotions are only available for pre-match bets. Currently Bitsler running early goal payout promotion on EPL & UCL football matches. @EKoston, I would like to know that what kind of offer you want to see in live sports? BTW, you have to ask it to their support. Because their team members rarely visit here.

What do you mean by pre-offer on bitsler?
What do you expect more for bistler will offer later? Sportsbetting on bitsler still considered new, they were focusing about other games like dice, boom, and etc.

@dezoel Bitsler has a KYC policy in place however they haven’t specified any limit, and merely stated that they can ask for KYC at any given time which means anyone can be subjected to KYC if they suspect that person irrespective of their withdrawal limit.

Also I feel that this a safe strategy because had they disclosed a particular withdrawal limit without KYC then scammers would have used it to their advantage, hence it’s safe to say that Bitsler is applying KYC rules according to the required law.


Source:

https://help.bitsler.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012737574-User-Agreement

Bitsler has much bigger limit (or maybe no limit?) than Binance. Binance requires you to do full KYC if you are using or withdrawing a few thousand dollars, this place as far as I know did it for over 13k+ dollars for one person I know, it was 13k+ but under 14k, so that means if nothing else, this place allows bigger withdraws than Binance. Maybe they would ask it if it was like half a million dollars, because every place should ask that, it is like a perfect money laundering scheme if you end up allowing that.

Any drug lord or whatever would come in here, put in 500k, gamble once, and withdraw to another account and if asked would say "I gambled and won" to a clean account without trouble at all. We all say we hate KYC (me included, I hate it) but at certain levels it starts to make sense, especially in huge amounts like that, this place doesn't do it for small amounts, that is for sure.

It reminds me of BINANCE, they also don't have KYC for restricted withdrawals. You need to do KYC to avail full features.
I haven't tried Bitsler yet but I am sure if they have license then without KYC you can have restricted features ? Let me know if its like that or other way around.

That is literally the reason why there are gambling requirements in places. I understand it could be dropping, like let's say there is something that you get when you wager 100k, and it is a monthly thing. I would understand if you reach 100k gambled in a month and got it and keep getting it each month you gamble 10k. That type of lowering requirement would be fine, but not like it would go down to 5k after that and 1k after that, no it is 100k first and 10k forever after that. Only thing that I would understand for lesser requirement would be that. Aside from that, zero is definitely not acceptable. It would definitely be unfair to active ones.

Also, if they ask for kyc then there is too much difficult for a lot of gambler to proof as many country does not allow to use any gambling sites. As a result we have to use VPN in this case while we provide kyc then it will be one country and the using country will be different.

Well there's nothing to discuss this as the word active itself makes a gambler deserves to the bonuses what a casino to give to their gamblers, and its so unfair for active gamblers that inactive will receive that to and hence they win a huge amount on the game. And also as you said other gambler who's inactive in the platform would understand on why they didn't receive the bonus since activity really matter on any casino where we go.

That's why I said it was ‘reasonable’. Inactive gamblers shouldn't receive the bonus all the time. Big or small depositor doesn't matter. If a gambler stay active, regular place bets and makes a good wager then he/she should receive the bonuses. I have good wager in Bitsler but I was inactive since last few months. And I'm not dissatisfied as I haven't received the bonus.

Doesn't matter if you are a "real gambler" or not, if you are given free money then you will gamble with it. Do you really think that if you went to Jeff Bezos, and say that you are giving him 1 million dollars for free, only to be used in a gambling situation, and offer him red or black, would he say no? I mean if he was busy then maybe yeah . Dude worths maybe like 200 billion, but you get the point. In the end if you are given free money, you will gamble with it, doesn't mean that you will abuse it, but you may just use it until you lose it.

Hence, why I gave the example from someone who would have some chance to win a huge amount and then lose it all, not a rich guy normally, a poor person that deposited very little, got lucky and won a lot, and either withdrawn or kept gambling and lost. Would that guy still get free money even though he doesn't gamble?

I think the fact that Baryom give aways some bitcoins to top players, VIP program, XP Contests, BTSLR Challange, Drops & Wins, Hourly Lottery, Billion Bets Event, bitsler forum promos/contests are just great and doesn't deserve 2. I haven't seen so many promotions with such a high rewards on many websites.

They require you to enter all the personal details to have access to the slot games. I would not call that approach 'pretty anonymous'.
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Apologize, yeah, you are right in this case. I didn't really know if Bitsler was asking for personal information in order to play slots, I couldn't even imagine that. I contacted their support and the answer was that they ask it because of providers regulations. I asked them that Sportsbet.io Fortunejack and other websites don't ask for any... But.. the answer was - We can't really get over our license's rules and provider's regulation.

I just want to ask I see that I'm not allowed to play table games unless I submitted personal information, may I ask if there would be a second verification after that? i also just want to know if i don't need to verify my account when withdrawing? anyway even though i can't play casino games the provably games you have is good already.

Real gambler doesn't rely on the free bonuses. Almost 90% of real gambler place bets with the bonus/free money without making instant withdrawal. They don't claim the bonus amount for farming. Only abuser do something like that.

The wagering requirements were $1000. It wasn't anything big, but there are lots of crypto casino now. It's not possible for the gamblers to stay active on each casino all the time. I didn't make any bet on Bitsler in the last month, while I wagered more than few hundred thousand dollars in some other casino. However, it was reasonable for Bitsler to add the wagering requirement on this month. Because they had given the bonus without any condition in the first two months.

I still believe that they needed to do this because in the case of someone who once had a huge win by luck and gambled a lot, and lost it then they would not have any money left to gamble and would claim this forever without gambling at all. Just because you gambled once upon a time doesn't mean that you get to gamble for free forever, you need to keep gambling in order to win something.

I believe that is $100 and it is not even a huge amount, even I gamble that much and I am not even a big gambler, I just gamble consistently with small amounts instead of gamble once in a while with big amounts. If I can reach 100 bucks per month then I am sure any proper gambler would reach that too. At the end of the day gambling is for fun and if you are going to get stressed in order to reach a certain level then you should forget about it, but if you are having fun then 100 bucks shouldn't be a problem.

The promotions section has received two points from me, not zero. I am not interested in what happened in the past I have made my deposit, played there, and operating with the current facts. The chest rewards are bad because they are being credited with different coins. You cannot exchange them or withdraw if the amount is low.

They require you to enter all the personal details to have access to the slot games. I would not call that approach 'pretty anonymous'.

I want to thank you for really putting a lot of effort to provide very detailed review, thanks again!

Withdrawal
At past, you had three options of withdraw:
1. Low - 0.0002 btc
2. Medium - 0.0004 btc
3. High - 0.0006 btc

On high priority, the withdraw and confirmation was almost instant. Seems, now they left only two option and I agree with you, today these fees are very high. I would love if they offer us lowered withdraw fees and more advanced withdraw options where users will be able to set custom satoshi/bytes fee.

Promotions
Their promotions are really amazing, I can't really understand why you think it deserves 0 out of 5. They have a lot of promotions, chest rewards where you can get good reward if you are lucky. Also, I can say that at past Baryom was paying himself 1 bitcoin and sometimes more to top players, yeah, he was giving them 1 bitcoin for free as an appreciation for being a loyal customer.

KYC and anonymity
Bitsler is really one of the great casino that doesn't ask for KYC documents unless there is very, very bad situation. And you can stay pretty anonymous with them but maybe because of email, 4/5 in anonimity is still okay.

Still, I think Bitsler really deserves 5/5.