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Quote from: BALIK on October 28, 2022, 12:00:07 PM

The loss of Pakistan against Zimbabwe has made a terrible mess of the points table. After this loss, both Bangladesh and Netherlands will try to play their strongest game against Pakistan. I am not certain that Pakistan will be able to get full points from both of those matches.

Honestly, I think Pakistan actually might win against the Netherlands. But, I expect a fierce fight from Bangladesh when they play against Pakistan. And it is going to be really sad if any more matches get washed out. ICC really should be thinking about keeping reserve dates for at least world cup matches. And I don't think they will actually be able to qualify for the semi-finals.

Bangladesh really struggled against Netherlands in their first match, and I don't expect them to put up strong resistance against Pakistan. Their batting is in shambles and bowlers have been hammered all around the park by Quinton de Kock and Rilee Rossouw during the last match at Sydney Cricket Ground. Chances are that Pakistan will win their match against Bangladesh by a big margin. They desperately need that, since their NRR is also not very good. And now coming to the Netherlands, I don't have much hope. They have literally zero chances of defeating a team like Pakistan.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 28, 2022, 01:21:28 AM

Quote from: BobK71 on October 28, 2022, 12:50:06 AM

I assume Pakistan can beat Bangladesh and Netherlands. But to beat Africa they will have to improve their standard of play much more and also depend on their luck. If they lose like Zimbabwe, the same thing can happen in the other 3 remaining countries as well. So there will have much difficulties for Pakistan.

If Pakistan can lose to Zimbabwe, then there is a chance that they will lose to Netherlands as well. On top of that, now a lot of matches are getting washed out. So there is always a chance that Pakistan may not get full points from their matches against these two countries (Bangladesh and Netherlands). They need to finish within the top 2, in order to qualify for the semi-finals. That is looking very unlikely now, after they ended up with 0 points from 2 matches (lost both their matches till now, the first one being against India).

The loss of Pakistan against Zimbabwe has made a terrible mess of the points table. After this loss, both Bangladesh and Netherlands will try to play their strongest game against Pakistan. I am not certain that Pakistan will be able to get full points from both of those matches.

Honestly, I think Pakistan actually might win against the Netherlands. But, I expect a fierce fight from Bangladesh when they play against Pakistan. And it is going to be really sad if any more matches get washed out. ICC really should be thinking about keeping reserve dates for at least world cup matches. And I don't think they will actually be able to qualify for the semi-finals.

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Surviving on the funding of major cricket boards! How can a governing cricket body conduct an international event in such a manner, wherein most games are getting abandoned due to the rain. Cold food and delay in shuttle service can be absorbed but not able to play can be frustrating for some teams.

Afghanistan is a team with lot of potential and the ability to win. Unfortunately they have not played most of their game due to the rain. This is frustrating as a palyer and as a team. Literally ICC sucks today more than it did in the past. A big reason for such irresponsible decisions on the venue can be blamed on those who decided on the venue and the dates for organizing a big event like T20 World Cup.

Considering the present situation it can be clearly understood that most matches would either get cancelled or they might get reduced. Nothing like this can be averted for now but as a follower of cricket such scenes could have been avoided.

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Ouch. That's two matches in a row abandoned, so all these points get shared out, suits most teams I guess except maybe clear favourites? Is this a normal occurrence or did Melbourne weather just catch everyone out?

Wonder if there is a physical edge if teams play after more rest.

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Quote from: BobK71 on October 28, 2022, 12:50:06 AM

I assume Pakistan can beat Bangladesh and Netherlands. But to beat Africa they will have to improve their standard of play much more and also depend on their luck. If they lose like Zimbabwe, the same thing can happen in the other 3 remaining countries as well. So there will have much difficulties for Pakistan.

If Pakistan can lose to Zimbabwe, then there is a chance that they will lose to Netherlands as well. On top of that, now a lot of matches are getting washed out. So there is always a chance that Pakistan may not get full points from their matches against these two countries (Bangladesh and Netherlands). They need to finish within the top 2, in order to qualify for the semi-finals. That is looking very unlikely now, after they ended up with 0 points from 2 matches (lost both their matches till now, the first one being against India).

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 28, 2022, 12:49:21 AM

I truly feel sad for deserving teams like Afghanistan since rain keeps hampering their efforts to move forward. It looks like their current match against Ireland could get washed out too. Bad planning as usual by the ICC.

It just not bad but the right word here should be worst planning by ICC. If today's match gets cancelled due to the rain then Ireland would be in a very comfortable position to get into the semifinals. Afghanistan is far better than the Irish team and they need a chance to prove it. The forecast for Melbourne is rain for this week and the next one too. I hope the second match doesn't ends in the same fate as the first one for today.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 27, 2022, 11:06:09 PM

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 27, 2022, 12:16:13 PM

Amazing turnaround for Zimbabwe who many on social media are saying this is revenge for fake Mr Bean that Pakistan gave them several years ago lol but this to me is a perfect example of Pakistan underestimating their opponent, and now they have to pay for it. So many upsets in this World Cup, it makes sense to keep betting on the weaker team!

Pakistan has a weak record against lower ranking teams. We saw that during the recently concluded Asia cup, when they almost lost their match to Afghanistan. Against Zimbabwe they had the upper hand for 90% of the duration. But then Zimbabwe fought back and picked some important wickets to derail their chase. One issue with Pakistan is that they are too dependent on the top order batsmen such as Babar Azam. If the top order batsmen get out cheaply, it puts the team under immense pressure.

After yesterday's shocking defeat it would not be easy for Pakistan to get into semifinals. Apart from winning all their remaining three matches they would need favours from other teams. Which means they would need all the luck to get into semifinals. It is highly unlikely that it would happen. I also feel that it would not be easy for Pakistan to defeat the South African team.

I assume Pakistan can beat Bangladesh and Netherlands. But to beat Africa they will have to improve their standard of play much more and also depend on their luck. If they lose like Zimbabwe, the same thing can happen in the other 3 remaining countries as well. So there will have much difficulties for Pakistan.

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I truly feel sad for deserving teams like Afghanistan since rain keeps hampering their efforts to move forward. It looks like their current match against Ireland could get washed out too. Bad planning as usual by the ICC.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 27, 2022, 11:06:09 PM

After yesterday's shocking defeat it would not be easy for Pakistan to get into semifinals. Apart from winning all their remaining three matches they would need favours from other teams. Which means they would need all the luck to get into semifinals. It is highly unlikely that it would happen. I also feel that it would not be easy for Pakistan to defeat the South African team.

Pakistan are out at this point if you ask me since I don't expect any miracles to save them. Rain is another big factor which should be considered here.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 27, 2022, 10:14:04 PM

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Amazing turnaround for Zimbabwe who many on social media are saying this is revenge for fake Mr Bean that Pakistan gave them several years ago lol but this to me is a perfect example of Pakistan underestimating their opponent, and now they have to pay for it. So many upsets in this World Cup, it makes sense to keep betting on the weaker team!

Pakistan has a weak record against lower ranking teams. We saw that during the recently concluded Asia cup, when they almost lost their match to Afghanistan. Against Zimbabwe they had the upper hand for 90% of the duration. But then Zimbabwe fought back and picked some important wickets to derail their chase. One issue with Pakistan is that they are too dependent on the top order batsmen such as Babar Azam. If the top order batsmen get out cheaply, it puts the team under immense pressure.

After yesterday's shocking defeat it would not be easy for Pakistan to get into semifinals. Apart from winning all their remaining three matches they would need favours from other teams. Which means they would need all the luck to get into semifinals. It is highly unlikely that it would happen. I also feel that it would not be easy for Pakistan to defeat the South African team.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 27, 2022, 12:16:13 PM

Amazing turnaround for Zimbabwe who many on social media are saying this is revenge for fake Mr Bean that Pakistan gave them several years ago lol but this to me is a perfect example of Pakistan underestimating their opponent, and now they have to pay for it. So many upsets in this World Cup, it makes sense to keep betting on the weaker team!

Pakistan has a weak record against lower ranking teams. We saw that during the recently concluded Asia cup, when they almost lost their match to Afghanistan. Against Zimbabwe they had the upper hand for 90% of the duration. But then Zimbabwe fought back and picked some important wickets to derail their chase. One issue with Pakistan is that they are too dependent on the top order batsmen such as Babar Azam. If the top order batsmen get out cheaply, it puts the team under immense pressure.

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Quote from: BobK71 on October 27, 2022, 11:41:09 AM

I never thought that Pakistan would suffer such a defeat. I didn't expect them to perform like this coming to the World Cup. The cricket world will lose faith in them. Some gamblers will start avoiding their team. I can never accept Pakistan losing to Zimbabwe. I myself have faced huge losses. But my pity if Pakistan lost against a strong team maybe the matter could have been taken easily. But it is very difficult to lose when victory is almost knocking on the door.

Just like Soccer world cup cricket world cup is also event of upsets, and we have history of upsets in ODI world cups and now in T-20 world cups as well which is now more interesting and entertaining because here things are changing very quickly and associate countries are working hard on their development which is good for the game and entertainment of fans as well.

There is no doubt we can expect some more upsets in this event because few teams are doing good in last few weeks and their confidence level is also high which is surely positive development for them in this event now tomorrow we have two big matches which are surely going to change this groups teams positions first match is Afghanistan vs Ireland after beating England their confidence level is high, and they can give tough fight even Afghanistan is hot favourite but still this is not going to be easy game for both teams and second match which is going to play between Australia vs England with defending champions and host Australia after losing first game against New Zealand trying to fight back but for me tomorrow they are going to lose against England.

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Quote from: Rigon on October 27, 2022, 03:48:38 AM

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Including today's game, Bangladesh and South Africa have met a total of 8 times, with Bangladesh losing to South Africa each time. Especially in today's match, Bangladesh was defeated by a huge margin of 104 runs. I saw the batting line of South Africa with my own eyes, the way they batted looks like a wicket batting pitch. But when Bangladesh bowled, it was seen that Bangladesh bowled like helpless.
Again, when Bangladesh batted, it seems that Bangladesh is batting on a complete bowling pitch. They are unable to stand in front of the South African bowling. In particular, none other than the one and only Liton Das could collect well. Shakib Al Hasan could not identify the all-rounder. No one bowled better except Mustafizur Rahman. In fact, today's game seems like Bangladesh is learning to bat and bowl on the cricket pitch from another planet.
However, we hope that Bangladesh will come out of this bad situation. We all hope that Bangladesh will play well, give good gifts to the people, and bring fame to the country.

Bangladesh cricket board is now full of politics. Until this Bangladesh cricket board is not free from politics, Bangladesh cricket team will never be able to do anything good. Bangladesh lost by a huge margin to South Africa in this match today. In all the matches that Bangladesh has played against South Africa, Bangladesh has lost to South Africa. South Africa was absolutely perfect in terms of batting and bowling. Due to which Bangladesh was defeated by South Africa today by 104 runs. Bangladesh's total was 101 runs in 16.3 overs with the loss of all wickets.

RSA 205/5 (20)
BAN 101 (16.3)
South Africa won by 104 runs.

The only chance of Bangladesh cricket getting revived is to give the ex-cricketers who were actually capable a chance to be on the selection board and also be the coach of Bangladesh. There are no qualifications for the authority of the Bangladesh cricket board, including Nazrul Hasan Papon, President of the Bangladesh cricket board, to be in the position they are currently in. And that needs to change.

I have heard a lot of people say that Bangladesh needs to make an overhaul of the whole team. But I think Bangladesh needs to do two things first.

They need to make overhaul the personnel running BCB.
Secondly, they need to improve the pipeline of Bangladesh cricketers so that there is always someone ready to play if they need to replace any player.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 27, 2022, 12:16:13 PM

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Amazing turnaround for Zimbabwe who many on social media are saying this is revenge for fake Mr Bean that Pakistan gave them several years ago lol but this to me is a perfect example of Pakistan underestimating their opponent, and now they have to pay for it. So many upsets in this World Cup, it makes sense to keep betting on the weaker team!

The odds are good and in favor of Afghanistan. I also truly believe that Afghanistan should be able to win the match. I know that Ireland got a win against England, but that was pure luck. I think Afghanistan has what it takes to beat Ireland. Of course, unless there is another rain introduction and we end the match with the DLS method.

I really have no idea how Zimbabwe even dared to defend that small total, but they did. They won against Pakistan by one run. I have seen the match, it was really unpredictable towards the end. Anyone could have gotten away with the win. But when the Zimbabwe wicketkeeper missed trying to grab the ball thrown towards him to get the run out on the last ball my heart skipped a beat.

But eventually, he was able to do it. I think Pakistan just played too poorly, especially in the second innings. Pakistan has given away 14 extra runs in this match including 6 wide balls which came back to hurt them pretty badly.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 27, 2022, 12:16:13 PM

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Amazing turnaround for Zimbabwe who many on social media are saying this is revenge for fake Mr Bean that Pakistan gave them several years ago lol but this to me is a perfect example of Pakistan underestimating their opponent, and now they have to pay for it. So many upsets in this World Cup, it makes sense to keep betting on the weaker team!

Was not aware of the the Pakistani Mr Bean, searched online for that and it looks like a good impersonation. The problem Pakistan had coming into this tournament is their middle order and even in this match they failed to perform and it was an unexpected upset as i thought Pakistan would chase down the total.

Two unexpected upsets in the form of Ireland against England and now Pakistan. Expecting further upsets if rain disrupts the match and duckworth lewis method is really confusing as the number of wickets lost is taking as the main aspect in determining the result Undecided

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Pakistan vs Zimbabwe, 24th Match, Super 12 Group 2, This game was held today. Zimbabwe won today's T20 World Cup with Pakistan team. Of course Pakistan as a strong team performed very poorly today which is why they lost the match against Zimbabwe. Although it was too much for Pakistan to win but luckily they could not win. But I am very happy to see this match that all the players of Zimbabwe team performed very well today and gave good game to the audience.

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Amazing turnaround for Zimbabwe who many on social media are saying this is revenge for fake Mr Bean that Pakistan gave them several years ago lol but this to me is a perfect example of Pakistan underestimating their opponent, and now they have to pay for it. So many upsets in this World Cup, it makes sense to keep betting on the weaker team!

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