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Topic: [sportsbet.io] Responsible gambling failure, not honouring their own t&c's. - page 3. (Read 1137 times)

sr. member
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Players always are at a disadvantage as these big companies are so not scared by the thought of legal action.

I also imagine legal action against a Curacao company could be pretty tricky

The lawsuit is against the license holder who has more than 20 BTC to lose, and other parties can be sued and they would be scared of it.

When I had my case they paid me $7000 without even going to court! in Curacao!

The system in Curacao is not so broken as many believe, Game Protect actually said it and he was right - but he was also someone who couldn't keep his word and promises to his customers, but the guy was quite knowledgeable - the OP just needs to find someone knowledgeable that would take him through the hoops...
jr. member
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Wouldn't be that hard to detect and know where they are and issue a case against them, especially amidst this pandemic?

They have a license:

https://validator.curacao-egaming.com/validate?domain=sportsbet.io&seal_id=ce1fe30eb692473c751d3737d65bd753108999a1eeb9896d4b649466f328bfbb8a2c126253365800bea988199489b315&stamp=e6586fc3812998301d79616f6d178f06

Obtaining the details from Curacao shouldn't be so difficult and it won't be costly neither.

It's the case itself that would be costly but this is up to both sides to work it out legally.

Players always are at a disadvantage as these big companies are so not scared by the thought of legal action.

I also imagine legal action against a Curacao company could be pretty tricky
sr. member
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Wouldn't be that hard to detect and know where they are and issue a case against them, especially amidst this pandemic?

They have a license:

https://validator.curacao-egaming.com/validate?domain=sportsbet.io&seal_id=ce1fe30eb692473c751d3737d65bd753108999a1eeb9896d4b649466f328bfbb8a2c126253365800bea988199489b315&stamp=e6586fc3812998301d79616f6d178f06

Obtaining the details from Curacao shouldn't be so difficult and it won't be costly neither.

It's the case itself that would be costly but this is up to both sides to work it out legally.
hero member
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My suggestion to you is to NOT use any forums, not use intermediaries - your best bet is to use a solicitor/lawyer and sue SportsBet.io for their negligence.
Only a lawsuit will yield you a result.


But then again what country does sportsbet.io's office and its staff resides? Wouldn't be that hard to detect and know where they are and issue a case against them, especially amidst this pandemic? I think it was applicable to you as you know where the company resides and was near from where you are, but then if it would take flights and the sportbet was afar from PlayerX47, I don't think it would be worth it, NOT UNLESS, the OP holds huge amount of bitcoins that sportsbet.io refuses to pay.
legendary
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You should edit your first post in this thread and make the readers aware you've created a flag.
I've supported the flag because SportsBet.io has several other accusations against them that keep on building up but once again - I'd be surprised if others will support the flag, simply because they will accuse you of being in fault here - but I truly hope I'm being wrong with this.



I have done so thanks for your input

Hello,

can you inbox me you user name and Ill check it out for you

thanks,

Steve.
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Thanks for your response. I appreciate it, I also understand that it is a huge sum of money and posting on a forum is very unlikely to change the outcome. I wanted to raise awareness to the case and also get the opinion of others.

I have also been advised to create a flag against sportsbet.io which I have done so:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2181

Please support the flag, if sportsbet.io come to a reasonable outcome I will of course remove this. I hope there is some support for my case and help from the public to push sportsbet.io to reconsider my case. Thanks

I have added my support to this flag to help your case. I believe you are both in the wrong but I can see it from your side too.

Good luck and I will be following this closely but I do agree with get-paid, you really should be getting a lawyer and not posting this on a public forum. Hopefully it helps.
sr. member
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Thanks for your response. I appreciate it, I also understand that it is a huge sum of money and posting on a forum is very unlikely to change the outcome. I wanted to raise awareness to the case and also get the opinion of others.

I have also been advised to create a flag against sportsbet.io which I have done so:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2181

Please support the flag, if sportsbet.io come to a reasonable outcome I will of course remove this. I hope there is some support for my case and help from the public to push sportsbet.io to reconsider my case. Thanks

You should edit your first post in this thread and make the readers aware you've created a flag.
I've supported the flag because SportsBet.io has several other accusations against them that keep on building up but once again - I'd be surprised if others will support the flag, simply because they will accuse you of being in fault here - but I truly hope I'm being wrong with this.

legendary
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newbie
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Sportsbet is obligated by law to check the identity of the depositors, therefore you have a clear claim.

However, only the Game Protect group is able to possibly get your illegally taken 36 BTC back.
sr. member
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Firstly, sorry about your loss - I'd try to keep it short and sweet.

First and foremost - how to properly SELF EXCLUDE YOURSELF FROM CRYPTO GAMBLING WEBSITES

The trouble with crypto gambling websites is that you cannot really self exclude yourself from a site that lets you sign up again so easily with just a user/email and password ... since the transactions are anonymous then there isn't any proper regulation really!

Your solution? Read this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-there-a-service-that-lets-you-lock-your-bitcoin-for-24-48-hours-etc-5205451

Next time if you have an urge to gamble away your Bitcoin you can lock your Bitcoin away from yourself - this is a proper self exclusion tool - by locking your Bitcoin away from yourself for a specified time you define yourself - you won't have access to that Bitcoin until that time expires - this way for instance if you lock away 10 BTC for 6 months then for the next 6 months you won't be able to spend those 10 BTC even if you want to.

Edit (03-August-2020)

OP,
Were you aware you could even LOCK your funds away for 8% annual interest rate or more?

https://www.binance.com/en/lending/products?type=fixed

Imagine saving 36 BTC in this product, you would earn almost 3 BTC and you could say "Risk Free" without risking your balance. And your funds would be locked - cannot use them - only gaining interest. If you get a large sum again please consider this instead


Now,

Regarding your specific case

I would keep it short and sweet for you as I mentioned.
This is a very large amount.

My suggestion to you is to NOT use any forums, not use intermediaries - your best bet is to use a solicitor/lawyer and sue SportsBet.io for their negligence.
Only a lawsuit will yield you a result.

Am I speaking from experience? Absolutely.
I have used a lawyer in Curacao who sued a website which I cannot name - for something similar (although my case with them was not honoring a self-exclusion on the very same account I had with them) - that led them to pay me $7,000

I tried using SBRForum, AskGamblers, CasinoMeister - nothing worked ... only a lawyer was able to get them to pay me back.

So that's why I wanted to respond immediately to you by telling you - you are dealing with a loss of a big chunk here ... had it been 0.1 BTC I would use the forum likewise but you are talking about 20 BTC (over $220,000) - seriously - get a lawyer and start your case now.

Any other attempt to get this "resolved" - would only cause you to waste time, energy and it would be a futile attempt to resolve a case involving 20 BTC.

As in regards to SportsBet.io's due of care - I have to be honest, I personally don't like SportsBet.io (and many other forum members can testify and tell you I'm not lying when I'm saying it) - however you need to understand your case is not the best one out there because you opened a new account.

Graham Calvert in the UK tried to sue William Hill for something similar - he lost the case, and he also lost his family - I'd suggest to you to firstly lock your Bitcoin away from yourself so you won't lose more (and only this would help you to really self-exclude!) .... Secondly - I am not saying you don't have a case at all ... but a good lawyer might get a settlement/compromise or what's not - you won't get from this forum or elsewhere on the Internet!

Do it whilst this operation is still in business by the way, with the accumulating posts against them I'd be wary so if I were you I wouldn't waste time.

Oh,

I said "short and sweet" but looks like I got a longer post.

Anyway,

Hope it helps - good luck to you!!

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