⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 141.

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 19, 2021, 06:11:59 PM

It probably depends on how seriously big clubs are looking into this tournament. When there was 2 legs, I remember that Barca or Real often played draw or even lost to 2nd or 3rd division teams because they simply let their B teams player to play. But on second leg with more main team players they scored 5-6 goals and easy went to next round.
But now we have quite a lot La Liga teams already eliminated in early rounds. On Thursday Barca will face 3rd division team Cornella, who already kicked out Atletico. So, probably it won't be easy Cheesy

Yep, it was only during semi or finals that the A team came out to play, there really was a time when Barca B or Real B could even probably play in Segunda and win it (which is why there are many rules regarding such possibilities).

Anyway, UCL beckons next month so let's see if Messi gets the rest from his 2 game ban (reduced now from 4). He must still be fuming about it Wink

LTU_btc

legendary

Activity: 3262

Merit: 1376

Slava Ukraini!

Quote from: slaman29 on January 19, 2021, 11:39:43 AM

I always found the risk even bigger with 2 legs like in CL. Some teams think they can do better on the second leg, or some just throw away games. It's the single leg that rewards people who want to win it, one win and one upset is all you need.

But like you said, the temptation is, at 80 mins or even 70 mins, if you can't score, why not defend and go to penalties right?

It probably depends on how seriously big clubs are looking into this tournament. When there was 2 legs, I remember that Barca or Real often played draw or even lost to 2nd or 3rd division teams because they simply let their B teams player to play. But on second leg with more main team players they scored 5-6 goals and easy went to next round.
But now we have quite a lot La Liga teams already eliminated in early rounds. On Thursday Barca will face 3rd division team Cornella, who already kicked out Atletico. So, probably it won't be easy Cheesy

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 16, 2021, 05:57:38 PM

Quote from: slaman29 on January 16, 2021, 08:10:52 AM

No La Liga today but I've picked a parlay including most of La Liga contenders, and Elche to lose for over 33x with Sportsbet boost. Any picks for upsets from our resident Spanish experts? Since I'm bottom of Superbru I admit now I have no knowledge of the games this season:) Good luck in Copa del Rey!

Since they changed Copa del Rey format and there is no second leg games anymore, betting on it become quite risky. Like we saw today when few games with obvious favorites went to extra time on penalties. If we talk about Sunday games, I see good value in Espanyol win, they look really solid in Segunda, while Osasuna is on the bottom on La Liga. Also, I think Gijon can make an upset against Betis. Gijon is solid team this season, while Betis is so inconsistent.
By the way, don't forget about Supercopa final. Good chance for Barca to end title drought. But I think game is gonna be very tough, wouldn't be surprised that it will go to the penalties.

I always found the risk even bigger with 2 legs like in CL. Some teams think they can do better on the second leg, or some just throw away games. It's the single leg that rewards people who want to win it, one win and one upset is all you need.

But like you said, the temptation is, at 80 mins or even 70 mins, if you can't score, why not defend and go to penalties right?

LTU_btc

legendary

Activity: 3262

Merit: 1376

Slava Ukraini!

Quote from: slaman29 on January 16, 2021, 08:10:52 AM

No La Liga today but I've picked a parlay including most of La Liga contenders, and Elche to lose for over 33x with Sportsbet boost. Any picks for upsets from our resident Spanish experts? Since I'm bottom of Superbru I admit now I have no knowledge of the games this season:) Good luck in Copa del Rey!

Since they changed Copa del Rey format and there is no second leg games anymore, betting on it become quite risky. Like we saw today when few games with obvious favorites went to extra time on penalties. If we talk about Sunday games, I see good value in Espanyol win, they look really solid in Segunda, while Osasuna is on the bottom on La Liga. Also, I think Gijon can make an upset against Betis. Gijon is solid team this season, while Betis is so inconsistent.
By the way, don't forget about Supercopa final. Good chance for Barca to end title drought. But I think game is gonna be very tough, wouldn't be surprised that it will go to the penalties.

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

No La Liga today but I've picked a parlay including most of La Liga contenders, and Elche to lose for over 33x with Sportsbet boost. Any picks for upsets from our resident Spanish experts? Since I'm bottom of Superbru I admit now I have no knowledge of the games this season:) Good luck in Copa del Rey!

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

Quote from: Harkorede on January 12, 2021, 07:41:09 PM

Two games played tonight and all I could gather was 3 points, Atletico are making a really strong statement at the top of the table with their convincing win against Sevilla, If they should win their remain 2 games in hand, that'd be 10 points lead over 2nd placed Real Madrid, even though things are likely to change during the second half of the season, when they're will be much more simultaneous games from other competitions, I still regard Atletico as team that'd be very hard to overthrow at the top of the table this season.

If I could say that for every round, I'd be much much higher in the table than where I am now!

But yeah, good win for Atletico, I honestly have never felt happier in many years to have a rival team be top with a good healthy lead. I did bet the opposite way, but I think I have to bite my own tongue for criticizing Simeone's style of play earlier in the season (I still think he cannot go back to that defensive mode if he wants to maintain the lead).

Harkorede

copper member

Activity: 2044

Merit: 793

Two games played tonight and all I could gather was 3 points, Atletico are making a really strong statement at the top of the table with their convincing win against Sevilla, If they should win their remain 2 games in hand, that'd be 10 points lead over 2nd placed Real Madrid, even though things are likely to change during the second half of the season, when they're will be much more simultaneous games from other competitions, I still regard Atletico as team that'd be very hard to overthrow at the top of the table this season.

webtricks

legendary

Activity: 1918

Merit: 1759

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 11, 2021, 03:25:11 PM

@webtricks, despite few good recent games, I don't think that Barca is back to title race. We are still so far away from Atletico, potentially they are up by 13 points and they are looking so stable and consistent so far.
About bench, I would like to see Puig playing more, but I doubt that it will happen. Koeman simply don't like him. And Braithwaite, sorry, but I can't see him as super-sub.

Every Barca fan would love to see more of Puig. He had bright 20 minutes vs Granada and was able to create couple of big chances. I think Koeman is over-using Pedri. He's good but still young. Manager should probably rest him more often, we don't want another injury like Fati. From what I have seen, Puig and Pedri are 1:1 likely substitute in Koeman's system. Since, Coutinho is injured, Koeman should use both of them inter-changeably and give them equal minutes.

I agree about Braithwaite, he's certainly not a Barca level striker and has bad first touch. But still has good attacking prowess and awareness in the penalty box because of which he is able to get goals sometimes. With Griezmann, Messi and Dembele finally getting their top-form and connecting wonderfully, it won't be bad to give some minutes to Braithwaite in latter part of second half and rest them regularly. After all, Braithwaite is our only striker, at least till summers.

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 11, 2021, 03:25:11 PM

I agree that Barca have good chance to win Supercopa. We will face Real Socoedad in semifinal and aren't looking good at all recently.
Real weren't very impressive in recent weeks and it won't be easy to get through Athletic.

I want to see El Clasico Final (I guess most of us want) and Barca smashing Real in final!

casperBGD

legendary

Activity: 2156

Merit: 1151

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

Quote from: Trofo on January 11, 2021, 10:49:05 AM

~snip

My favorite team this season is actually Villareal, since they are playing some world class football. I just hope they will manage to convert those good games into some kind of result. Champoins League spot is probably the best they can hope for.

yeah, CL spot and that from the fourth spot, since first three are probably already taken, and it is an expected group of teams, just Atletico at top, and Real second, I expected it opposite, with Barca on third, and fourth spot is open for competition, with Sevilla as main competitor and now Villareal, Sociedad, others are already down
with all that, I do not expect CL for Villareal, Sevilla is maybe not better at the moment, but certainly more experienced team, and their stable up momentum will go over Villareal in the end

nevertheless, must say that I am not following this La Liga season that much, Valencia is really down, and that is making hard momentum to watch others, usually they are in that fourth position fight, and now Europa League, although far away, would be the best they can do, while one can hope for 2018/2019 season, when we started almost the same (with double-digit number of draws), and end-up fourth in the end, despite 16 draws in the season (that would not draw that many points in previous 2-point win competitions, but in 3-point win, it is a miracle to end-up fourth)

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 11, 2021, 03:25:11 PM

@webtricks, despite few good recent games, I don't think that Barca is back to title race. We are still so far away from Atletico, potentially they are up by 13 points and they are looking so stable and consistent so far.
About bench, I would like to see Puig playing more, but I doubt that it will happen. Koeman simply don't like him. And Braithwaite, sorry, but I can't see him as super-sub.
I agree that Barca have good chance to win Supercopa. We will face Real Socoedad in semifinal and aren't looking good at all recently.
Real weren't very impressive in recent weeks and it won't be easy to get through Athletic.

I would rather Barca wins UCL, play Copa as much as possible but don't commit too much. Same as with La Liga, focus on rebuilding and finding a way for the team to click with the right motivation, attitude and structure, but not force every game to try and win it.

UCL is a better competition to target. It'll give Messi his final love he deserves and give all the youth like Fati a chance to glimpse a better future:)

LTU_btc

legendary

Activity: 3262

Merit: 1376

Slava Ukraini!

@webtricks, despite few good recent games, I don't think that Barca is back to title race. We are still so far away from Atletico, potentially they are up by 13 points and they are looking so stable and consistent so far.
About bench, I would like to see Puig playing more, but I doubt that it will happen. Koeman simply don't like him. And Braithwaite, sorry, but I can't see him as super-sub.
I agree that Barca have good chance to win Supercopa. We will face Real Socoedad in semifinal and aren't looking good at all recently.
Real weren't very impressive in recent weeks and it won't be easy to get through Athletic.

Trofo

legendary

Activity: 2758

Merit: 2789

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

Quote from: webtricks on January 11, 2021, 09:36:16 AM

Whom are you guys rooting for to win Supercopa this year? My money is on Barcelona! Especially considering Messi's outstanding revival in 2021 (man! he can still score those free-kicks! Cheesy

).

I am rooting for Barcelona, not gonna root for park the bus Atletico and wait for Suarez to score a goal for sure. Really can't stand watching Atletico Madrid, they are defending even when playing against lower division teams. In my imaginary world, winner of the La Liga should be able to actually play football.

My favorite team this season is actually Villareal, since they are playing some world class football. I just hope they will manage to convert those good games into some kind of result. Champoins League spot is probably the best they can hope for.

webtricks

legendary

Activity: 1918

Merit: 1759

And suddenly out of nowhere Barcelona once again looking contender for the title! 3/3 on the road, away from home, quite impressive I must say! Granada and Athletic are tough competitors (especially in away games) but Barca dominated both so finally it's looking like Koeman had found his working solution for the Starting XI.

Bench is looking strong too. Puig, Pjanic and Braithwaite can play a handy role as super-subs in upcoming games. Barca now surely has greater chances of winning against PSG than it was looking when draws were finalized, if not 50/50 then surely 40/60.

Winning LaLiga is still very-very tough job, considering Atletico has humongous lead over the rest but half of the season is still left. If anyone remembers then it was against Atletico in last Supercopa de Espana when Barcelona lost, fired Valverde and started fading away. Can the upcoming Supercopa acts like ashes for Barcelona and let the club rise again like Pheonix? Winning the title will certainly help changing the trajectory of Barcelona's performance for rest of the season.

Whom are you guys rooting for to win Supercopa this year? My money is on Barcelona! Especially considering Messi's outstanding revival in 2021 (man! he can still score those free-kicks! Cheesy

).

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

Quote from: Trofo on January 10, 2021, 05:18:48 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on January 10, 2021, 05:03:12 AM

How many of us lost money on Real Madrid? My betbuilder for Barca actually didn't hit too, because it had a BTTS option that didn't hit haha. When I don't trust Barca, they pay me back:P

I lost so much money on Real yesterday that I am embarrassed to admit. Why can't they get a soft VAR penalty when I need it to cash in? They even scored 2 goals but both have been clear offsides. No way somebody in VAR room could have adjusted the lines to make it stand, they even tried it for first goal

The pitch was quite bad and it was clear Real had trouble playing their game on it. Zidane said something on the line that game should have been postponed due to conditions. I am sure nobody would go that far in Premier League but you don't see snow in Madrid very often so I understand the statement.

No worries. I probably don't bet as much as you, I'm a very small gambler. But if I ever look back on my bets and total up the amounts I lose on my own team, I probably would get ashamed of myself. Especially now with BTC so pricey, my whole family would probably get so pissed with me heh.

Absolutely agree about the snow though. But now I see all the FAs in Europe just won't cancel anything because there's no space to move anything anywhere. Probably pressure from the home team too who saw this as the best chance for them to get the draw.

Too bad none of us saw how it would cause problems.

Trofo

legendary

Activity: 2758

Merit: 2789

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

Quote from: slaman29 on January 10, 2021, 05:03:12 AM

How many of us lost money on Real Madrid? My betbuilder for Barca actually didn't hit too, because it had a BTTS option that didn't hit haha. When I don't trust Barca, they pay me back:P

I lost so much money on Real yesterday that I am embarrassed to admit. Why can't they get a soft VAR penalty when I need it to cash in? They even scored 2 goals but both have been clear offsides. No way somebody in VAR room could have adjusted the lines to make it stand, they even tried it for first goal

The pitch was quite bad and it was clear Real had trouble playing their game on it. Zidane said something on the line that game should have been postponed due to conditions. I am sure nobody would go that far in Premier League but you don't see snow in Madrid very often so I understand the statement.

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

Very good job to webtricks for getting the only exact score of the round so far. Still stuck in second-bottom place but at least I'm back in top half of other pools I'm in, so I know this pool is actually pretty good average for global standings;)

How many of us lost money on Real Madrid? My betbuilder for Barca actually didn't hit too, because it had a BTTS option that didn't hit haha. When I don't trust Barca, they pay me back:P

Trofo

legendary

Activity: 2758

Merit: 2789

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

Quote from: buwaytress on January 09, 2021, 10:54:13 AM

BTW, totally missed watching the Sevilla-Sociedad match, was surprised to see Sociedad score so many, then saw one was an own goal haha. But 2-2 in 14 minutes? Crazy season indeed.

That was totally unexpected for me. I expected Sevilla to win but this game had under written all over it. Both teams are very good in defense and I am really sorry I did not watch the begging of this game. Must have been some crazy shit happening. I even had that game as under 2.5 on my ticket but since I don't like playing unders I replaced it for Bayer Leverkusen to win. Unfortunately my ticket was doomed regardless of the choice

buwaytress

legendary

Activity: 3010

Merit: 3724

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

^ Don't worry, just a blip. Celta should secure Europa League if nothing else. Maybe even a brilliant cup run. I'm actually more interested to see also who comes up to La Liga next season. Segunda betting has been semi-profitable.

BTW, totally missed watching the Sevilla-Sociedad match, was surprised to see Sociedad score so many, then saw one was an own goal haha. But 2-2 in 14 minutes? Crazy season indeed.

slaman29

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1226

Livecasino, 20% cashback, no fuss payouts.

Nicely done! I did pick Villareal but I still need Atletico and Barca to win to book my ticket, so that could be tough (yes, I know, Barca again I cannot help it sorry).

Celta Vigo losing so badly, and makes you wonder if they've been relying on Iago for too much now. Sad to see such teams almost but never make it:)

Trofo

legendary

Activity: 2758

Merit: 2789

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

Quote from: LTU_btc on January 08, 2021, 07:44:24 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on January 08, 2021, 05:09:15 PM

Starting the week off with a wrong foot, I had Celta Vigo to win 2 - 1 in the pool, but Villarreal continued their win today by a huge 4 goals victory against Celta who were the home team, at worse my prediction would have been a draw.

It's something unexpected, especially such high score. I had draw on this game, but if I would know that Aspas won't play, I would had taken Villarreal to win 2:1. Next time it would be good to check squad list before making predictions.
There is some good games on Saturday. Good chance to get a lot of points, or fail completely.

I expected Villareal to win this easy but not 4:0. Celta missed a lot of players. Here is my qoute from yesterday in another topic in order to not repeat myself.

Quote from: Trofo on January 08, 2021, 06:24:13 AM

I just made my ticket and went with Villareal. Wanted to write a few sentences about that game in our pool thread but now I am writing it here instead. Celta game against Real was very costly for them, they lost Nolito and Aspas to injuries and Tapia to cards. Vilareal is playing very good football all season and they just missed a proper striker to convert all those chances, now Bacca is fit again and Celta without few key players. This one has Villareal win written all over, at least for me.

That was the last game I needed for a nice win and I was really happy Villareal made it clear from beginning how this will end. Otherwise I am always thinking about cashing out or defending my ticket.

Topic: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 141. (Read 32618 times)