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Quote from: Igebotz on March 22, 2023, 12:47:05 PM

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

I see what you’re saying but what managerial qualifications did Guardiola have to get the Barcelona job? He went on to create and manage one of the greatest teams of all time.

I guess when a big job comes calling, old players with little experience will just take it. I guess they think the opportunity may not come again.

Gerrard was really poor at Villa, he deserved to lose his job. I don’t blame him for taking it initially though.

For Gerrard this was a bad decision to go to such a weak club. He needed a bigger club so he could try and achive something bigger . With Villa it wasnt possible and now he will need to find a new club and after getting sacked it will take some time to find a good club that will take him.

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Quote from: Igebotz on March 22, 2023, 12:47:05 PM

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

I see what you’re saying but what managerial qualifications did Guardiola have to get the Barcelona job? He went on to create and manage one of the greatest teams of all time.

I guess when a big job comes calling, old players with little experience will just take it. I guess they think the opportunity may not come again.

Gerrard was really poor at Villa, he deserved to lose his job. I don’t blame him for taking it initially though.

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Man i repeat he work for Rangers for nearly 4 years and coach them for 200 games, but for you he left Rangers so quickly?. I dont undestand your point of view in terms of duration, Rangers cant give to him anything else.

And also he made all the correct steps, he prepare himself 4 years in Rangers, and after that he went to a mid class team not to a bigger one. Maybe he is not so good as a manager but he prepare himself very well and patiently.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 22, 2023, 09:40:22 AM

I dont think Gerrard left too early Scotland, he had nearby to 200 games, and that league cant give more to learn to him, its more like a train league plus one hard game from time to time against Celtic, and a few good in Europe.

About Kompany, starts really good but lets see with bigger teams, its not easy to work with high egos of the stars.

I guess.. But still think he went to the EPL too early. So did guys like Lampard. Lol. I thought Arteta was gonna follow but it seems like he learned a thing or two about club management from Guardiola. I guess he'll be earmarked to be next Man City manager..? Depending on what comes out of the whole cheating thing that is. I'd rather see him stay and win stuff with the Gunners tbh.

As for Kompany... True true. I'd be following his progress nevertheless.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 22, 2023, 09:40:22 AM

I dont think Gerrard left too early Scotland, he had nearby to 200 games, and that league cant give more to learn to him, its more like a train league plus one hard game from time to time against Celtic, and a few good in Europe.

About Kompany, starts really good but lets see with bigger teams, its not easy to work with high egos of the stars.

Managing a championship club is the same as managing a top tie club in Scotland; Kompany is doing a good job, with no hype and a complete tactical job. Steven Gerrard left Rangers so quickly; it's common among English coaches; a few good games and the English media will start linking them to top tie jobs, putting pressure on an English team to hire them. Gerrard should have stayed in Scotland because he was not ready to move to a top-tier club at the time. He was having a fantastic season there with no pressure, just go out and win games.

Managing a player and motivating players are two aspects of management that Gerrard lacks.

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I dont think Gerrard left too early Scotland, he had nearby to 200 games, and that league cant give more to learn to him, its more like a train league plus one hard game from time to time against Celtic, and a few good in Europe.

About Kompany, starts really good but lets see with bigger teams, its not easy to work with high egos of the stars.

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Yeah, I don't recall there ever being as tight a table as this season, from bottom to middle anyway, and it's been pretty much that way all season. I remember when Vieira and Gerrard arrived and most people thought it'd be a breath of fresh air to see such different ideas coming in. Was never meant to be, in the end.

Kompany next to come, and I hear a lot of chants for his name as Pep's successor but I don't think that would end well either.

People always think being a great player means you will become a great manager and it’s usually always not the case. Some of the greatest managers have been very average players. Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp. I guess you have Ancelotti and Pep who played at a high level.

Gerrard and Vieira will get another chance, I actually think sacking Vieira was harsh. Gerrard was doing badly at Villa so maybe deserved it.

Gerrard left Scotland too early imho or went in the EPL too early. He should've went around and gained more experience from the different leagues in Europe. He could've gone to France, Italy, Germany then England. And funny you mention Guardiola... During the last couple of years or so of his senior career as a player, he was already setting himself up to become a manager one day. Check the last two clubs he played with. He specifically chose those clubs because he wanted to learn from the managers of those clubs.

Vincent Kompany is turning out to be a decent manager with Burnley. Let's see what he could do when they're in the EPL next season.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on March 21, 2023, 06:34:30 AM

People always think being a great player means you will become a great manager and it’s usually always not the case. Some of the greatest managers have been very average players. Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp. I guess you have Ancelotti and Pep who played at a high level.

Gerrard and Vieira will get another chance, I actually think sacking Vieira was harsh. Gerrard was doing badly at Villa so maybe deserved it.

Yeah, I still think Gerrard needs more experience. Would love him to steer the ship, but only because he seemed such a fit spiritually (I remember even when King Kenny didn't do well on his return he still brought back a lot of cheer and was, well, he was responsible for bringing in Suarez, Hendo... I'll pretend he never brought Carroll in haha).

Quote from: darxiaomi on March 21, 2023, 09:58:22 AM

Yes and this its because, the greatest players have the habilitie to communicate better his born idea to his foot, but that doesnt mean them have better ideas than a average player who maybe have better ideas but he cant communicate good between his brain and his foot (im talking about neuroplasticity).

So when they become managers the good player lost all his advantadge because now its only pure knowledge and ideas, no more skills.
And the average player always have to made more tactical or learn more about correct position etc, to tape the fault of skills. So when he retire he can bring all that to the new players.

I dont know if im clear in my explanation but, if you play football at some level you can understand me.

I couldn't agree more. But there is also another ingredient and that's mentality. Xavi and Arteta had loads, they brought belief back to the squad, while aligning that with the club's values.

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So I guess those with 0 points means they didnt put any predictions this round hence I got the wooden spoon

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh Grin

. No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.

Yeah I noticed and at this rate Im pretty close on giving up as well. The only reason that Im still playing is atleast to land that golden cap once, I wouldnt want to go down without having a decent moneyback yet on my registration fee Roll Eyes

Quote from: darxiaomi on March 21, 2023, 09:58:22 AM

I dont know if im clear in my explanation but, if you play football at some level you can understand me.

Its pretty clear for me. Its pretty much like talent and hardwork, some players gotta work for it so they know how to work on some skills and what kind of drill needed for that while the talented players probably wont know the drill on how to implement that skills onto another player because it just come to them because they are talented

P.S : I guess I made it more confusing with my explanation lol

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Quote from: buwaytress on March 21, 2023, 05:50:48 AM

Yeah, I don't recall there ever being as tight a table as this season, from bottom to middle anyway, and it's been pretty much that way all season. I remember when Vieira and Gerrard arrived and most people thought it'd be a breath of fresh air to see such different ideas coming in. Was never meant to be, in the end.

Kompany next to come, and I hear a lot of chants for his name as Pep's successor but I don't think that would end well either.

People always think being a great player means you will become a great manager and it’s usually always not the case. Some of the greatest managers have been very average players. Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp. I guess you have Ancelotti and Pep who played at a high level.

Gerrard and Vieira will get another chance, I actually think sacking Vieira was harsh. Gerrard was doing badly at Villa so maybe deserved it.

Yes and this its because, the greatest players have the habilitie to communicate better his born idea to his foot, but that doesnt mean them have better ideas than a average player who maybe have better ideas but he cant communicate good between his brain and his foot (im talking about neuroplasticity).

So when they become managers the good player lost all his advantadge because now its only pure knowledge and ideas, no more skills.
And the average player always have to made more tactical or learn more about correct position etc, to tape the fault of skills. So when he retire he can bring all that to the new players.

I dont know if im clear in my explanation but, if you play football at some level you can understand me.

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Quote from: buwaytress on March 21, 2023, 05:50:48 AM

Yeah, I don't recall there ever being as tight a table as this season, from bottom to middle anyway, and it's been pretty much that way all season. I remember when Vieira and Gerrard arrived and most people thought it'd be a breath of fresh air to see such different ideas coming in. Was never meant to be, in the end.

Kompany next to come, and I hear a lot of chants for his name as Pep's successor but I don't think that would end well either.

People always think being a great player means you will become a great manager and it’s usually always not the case. Some of the greatest managers have been very average players. Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp. I guess you have Ancelotti and Pep who played at a high level.

Gerrard and Vieira will get another chance, I actually think sacking Vieira was harsh. Gerrard was doing badly at Villa so maybe deserved it.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 20, 2023, 09:50:49 AM

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh Grin

. No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.

I don't think we have had crazy results except a couple of weeks but this year most of the games have come as predicted and most probably these type of results do not favor those who go for bold draws or backing the underdogs,I remember you backing Brighton against Arsenal last pool or that before the last Grin

.That must be the reason you are so down as if you have put always the favorites,a route that I have tried this year you would probably have better results but since there are 22 places in prize spots,you have time to recover,who knows if the true crazy results start coming these last weeks of the tournament,after all this is Premier League.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 17, 2023, 09:55:03 AM

Yes he was doing good thinking in Crystal Palace parameters, but well seems like they have some fear of relegation? They are 12, and you might think, well they are safe, but clearly not, they are only 3 points away from the last position of relegation.

And for the second thing, YES again, really important the slam point and i think can be hard to adquire.

Yeah, I don't recall there ever being as tight a table as this season, from bottom to middle anyway, and it's been pretty much that way all season. I remember when Vieira and Gerrard arrived and most people thought it'd be a breath of fresh air to see such different ideas coming in. Was never meant to be, in the end.

Kompany next to come, and I hear a lot of chants for his name as Pep's successor but I don't think that would end well either.

Oh, and fitting that the only slam point won this week was FMbetbru, the Yellow Cap winner.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 20, 2023, 09:50:49 AM

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh Grin

. No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.

Everything is happening in these season.

City used to win constantly, so does Liverpool, Utd were unpredictable for me. Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham, Leicester have huge difference in performance comparing to the last few season. The point table for PM tells everything. So this season is not an easy season for PL lovers. We are the same.

This season seems out of hand. May be there is a hope to stay in top 20 but I don't expect anything from it right now.

I used to think CL matches are unpredictable but that's where I feel comfortable these days LOL

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I thought I had the worst among those of us who are posting regular basis but looking at you gives me some confidence LOL

Ending this round with 1 point from Arsenal

. I guess its better than 0 point and I guess this is my first wooden spoon this season(?) cant recall if I ever got any other during this season

So I guess those with 0 points means they didnt put any predictions this round hence I got the wooden spoon

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh Grin

. No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.

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Also, other teams were postponed, which reduced the number of points we earned. I fully admit that the next round will be significantly more challenging because everyone on the top are competing for the best spot. Hoping everyone luck.

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It's been a bad round so far for many. Why wouldn't it be? Three draw out of six match so far. I don't think many people prefer to go with a draw.

I don't mind draws and I generally pick quite a few of them but problem in this GW was that they were all quite unexpected results. I had 1:1 on Brentford - Leicester and then changed it last minute to 2:1 so missed 3 points there. Never would have got Chelsea draw just when they started to look a bit better or Wolves losing at home while conceding 4 goals.

I rarely go for draw. I feel like 90 minutes is a long time to decide a team to stay ahead, I know it's a weird feeling, it's like we don't see draw matches LOL
In many occasions I had bitter feeling that you had in Brentford match. I lost count of them. When I make a pick, I don't change it before the match starts anymore. Thing is, you have no idea what you are about to change will become right or it was already a correct outcome.

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I thought I had the worst among those of us who are posting regular basis but looking at you gives me some confidence LOL

Ending this round with 1 point from Arsenal

. I guess its better than 0 point and I guess this is my first wooden spoon this season(?) cant recall if I ever got any other during this season

So I guess those with 0 points means they didnt put any predictions this round hence I got the wooden spoon

This round result was not good for anyone overall. Let's forget it. The one who got the yellow cap he is extremely lucky.

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I thought I had the worst among those of us who are posting regular basis but looking at you gives me some confidence LOL

Ending this round with 1 point from Arsenal

. I guess its better than 0 point and I guess this is my first wooden spoon this season(?) cant recall if I ever got any other during this season

So I guess those with 0 points means they didnt put any predictions this round hence I got the wooden spoon

Quote from: Igebotz on March 19, 2023, 10:45:45 AM

Give up! We Chelsea fans are already used to the fact that Potter is not going to be fired anytime soon.

Wait he wont? dang, I thought he is a goner for sure. Probably they are going to keep him there unless if Chelsea ended up being humiliated by Real Madrid in UCL

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Quote from: cryptofrka on March 19, 2023, 12:11:40 PM

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Don't fault the transfer, blame the manager; the players we got are world-class youngsters sought after by the majority of European clubs. Potter is pitiful and has no idea when to use/drop them. To balance the books, there will be 3-5 departures next season.

The problem with a team of world-class youngsters is that they play like children and not like men.
Arsenal had teams of children more talented than what Boehly bought you in the last 10 years or so and they got nowhere with them - for a team to work you need experience as well.

I actually don't even feel that this Chelsea team is filled with such extraordinary talent - it's probably the worst money ever spent in football.

Potter is partially to blame for sure - but he's got a team nobody can work with.

Lampard qualified for the Champions League with a team of average 21 (aged) players, and Tuchel won the Champions League with the same young stars, so there is no excuse for Potter not to get results with the 50-young stars..

You can't criticize the transfer when 97% of the incoming players are on the bench. Mudryk had a good game against Leicester city, scoring (VAR ruled out) and assisting, and all he got in return was a 90-minute bench warming stint against Everton.

Maduake played well in his first three games but was benched for the next four. Our two strikers, Fofana and Auba, have been completely ejected from the team for no apparent reason.

Gallagher, Pulisic, and Cheek aren't in the plan for next year, so I'm not sure why they're getting more playing time than Mudryk and Maduake and aren't being dropped like Mount.

If the team is underperforming, blame the coach; it is their responsibility to lead the team to victory.

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Quote from: Igebotz on March 19, 2023, 10:45:45 AM

Don't fault the transfer, blame the manager; the players we got are world-class youngsters sought after by the majority of European clubs. Potter is pitiful and has no idea when to use/drop them. To balance the books, there will be 3-5 departures next season.

The problem with a team of world-class youngsters is that they play like children and not like men.
Arsenal had teams of children more talented than what Boehly bought you in the last 10 years or so and they got nowhere with them - for a team to work you need experience as well.

I actually don't even feel that this Chelsea team is filled with such extraordinary talent - it's probably the worst money ever spent in football.

Potter is partially to blame for sure - but he's got a team nobody can work with.

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