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I'm wondering if Leicester will also get new-manager boost and win, but is it silly to think Nottingham Forest might get something out of crazy Leeds? Steady favourites at home despite only beating Saints and Bournemouth there in the last 7 months...

Tomorrow we will face the Blues away, and I don't think I will bet on this match. We will see if Liverpool can achieve a victory against Chelsea, which itself has not achieved the desired results this season.

I'm dumb, so it's a natural yes for me to the question: will I bet on this match. Had stayed away all week because I felt odds weren't good enough. Chelsea will probably spring a proper lineup now they don't have Potter overthinking things...
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The top three are starting to open the gap with the others slowly. The competition level for the 1st place in the pool is still very high. After my horrible performance last year it makes me happy to see myself in upper places. I hope I don't fall back to much lower places.

Even though the teams parting their ways with their technical directors usually get better results in their first times I think Liverpool will beat Chelsea away today. If Liverpool don't manage to win this match as well then their chance for top 4 ends completely.

Yes , but in this round the gap was close, fortebet really catch us in the top, and the fight for first spot is really tight between me and mitchr, and now fortebet also.

Yesterday we (me and mitchr) went with a really bold prediction, Everton to win.

The only i can see its this season its really hard to predict any match. Today games for example.
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I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm the only Chelsea fan among millions who believes those signings were all Potter's idea.

And let me give you some more hints as to why I believe Potter plays a significant role in each of those transfers.

Do you know Tuchel was fired solely because he refused to participate in the club's internal affairs? He stated openly in one of his last pre-match press conferences that his only job is to manage the players on the field - Todd Boehly wanted him to help appoint DOF and set up a recruitment team, which he refused, so the new owners had to look for someone (Potter) who ticked those boxes

You're not a fan and you think you have more insider than someone who has been a fan for 33 years? C'mon mate. Why are you attacking me.


This is far from being an attack, and if that's what you think this is, then my sincere apologies, I've just never see you put any form of blame whatsoever on Todd Boehly, but from your explanation too, it just doesn't make any sense to sack a coach over that, and when exactly did it become a coach's job to appoint director of football, from what I learnt as to why Tuchel got sacked, it was due to issues with the board and backroom staff, and he was said to have already lost his dressing respect too, no club owner have kept Tuchel under that circumstance, but sacking a coach just because he wouldn't get involve in the club's politics is pure nonsense and being a fan for 33 years doesn't mean much if you can't differentiate facts from opinions, for you to have implied this was an attack, and I'll stand by my opinion that Potter might not have been the best choice out there for Chelsea and it was indeed a mistake to have gone for him, but It's all on Boehly if you ask me, any other coach would have struggle as well, maybe not this much.
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Don't blame the owner for spending the way he did; blame the coach for bringing in players he planned to leave on the bench; not a single one of them is a starter or getting a run of games; mudrik, Madueke, Fofana, and Bashilale have spent more time on the bench than they have on the field since they arrived. If they weren't part of his plan, why did he go through so much trouble to get them in the first place? These players are world-class, and if Liverpool fans are willing to give misfiring Darwin two seasons to adjust to the league, then these players who arrived two months ago may also require some time to adjust. The entire players appears unmotivated, and I'm hoping that the new guy can instill some confidence in the team.


It's totally amusing that you're the only person, at least the only Chelsea fan at that who believes that those signings were actually Graham Potters' call to make or he did requested for those signings, Those signings to begin with and the way the occurred obviously showed that they were literally of Todd Boehly's making. I really just don't know if you're only just being naive, or you're just so ignorant of the facts, as a means of blind loyalty to your club.

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm the only Chelsea fan among millions who believes those signings were all Potter's idea.

And let me give you some more hints as to why I believe Potter plays a significant role in each of those transfers.

Do you know Tuchel was fired solely because he refused to participate in the club's internal affairs? He stated openly in one of his last pre-match press conferences that his only job is to manage the players on the field - Todd Boehly wanted him to help appoint DOF and set up a recruitment team, which he refused, so the new owners had to look for someone (Potter) who ticked those boxes

You're not a fan and you think you have more insider than someone who has been a fan for 33 years? C'mon mate. Why are you attacking me.
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The top three are starting to open the gap with the others slowly. The competition level for the 1st place in the pool is still very high. After my horrible performance last year it makes me happy to see myself in upper places. I hope I don't fall back to much lower places.

Even though the teams parting their ways with their technical directors usually get better results in their first times I think Liverpool will beat Chelsea away today. If Liverpool don't manage to win this match as well then their chance for top 4 ends completely.
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What a crazy goal for Everton, amazing shoot by Keane i just see the last 15 minutes of the game and man!, that was no expected, more seeing Lloris like a statue.

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another good finish by Everton, taking point in last minute, similar to Chelsea away match
hopefully, it is going to add to avoiding relegation in the end

Tottenham is story for themselves, missing on CL fight

six matches to go in this round, though that I will be better, but shirt and hoodie are gone
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It's totally amusing that you're the only person, at least the only Chelsea fan at that who believes that those signings were actually Graham Potters' call to make or he did requested for those signings, Those signings to begin with and the way the occurred obviously showed that they were literally of Todd Boehly's making. I really just don't know if you're only just being naive, or you're just so ignorant of the facts, as a means of blind loyalty to your club.

I agree they weren't Potter's transfers, but Potter should have done way better with the team he had.
It isn't easy managing 40 first team players and the new coach will have the same issue as Potter.

Still - they had 3 league wins in 13 games since January. It's simply not good enough for a team of such calibre - no matter the circumstances.
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Don't blame the owner for spending the way he did; blame the coach for bringing in players he planned to leave on the bench; not a single one of them is a starter or getting a run of games; mudrik, Madueke, Fofana, and Bashilale have spent more time on the bench than they have on the field since they arrived. If they weren't part of his plan, why did he go through so much trouble to get them in the first place? These players are world-class, and if Liverpool fans are willing to give misfiring Darwin two seasons to adjust to the league, then these players who arrived two months ago may also require some time to adjust. The entire players appears unmotivated, and I'm hoping that the new guy can instill some confidence in the team.


It's totally amusing that you're the only person, at least the only Chelsea fan at that who believes that those signings were actually Graham Potters' call to make or he did requested for those signings, Those signings to begin with and the way the occurred obviously showed that they were literally of Todd Boehly's making. I really just don't know if you're only just being naive, or you're just so ignorant of the facts, as a means of blind loyalty to your club.
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What a crazy goal for Everton, amazing shoot by Keane i just see the last 15 minutes of the game and man!, that was no expected, more seeing Lloris like a statue.

But asides of that goal, Totenham..... again, again? And im refering about being with 1 more player than the rival and being dominated by a team with 10 players.
This happen against Southhampon and now again, and we are talking about a shit teams in comparison with Totenham.

I was going for a 1-0 to Everton and it was close and far at the same point.

Well tomorrow the round continues with two more matches. Lets see if i can recover.

The only sad part for me its i think im out for the fight of shirts.



About Chelsea, they keep making movements without reason.

"there is no good wind for those who have no port"

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I have always been of the opinion that Graham Potter wasn't in my opinion worthy to coach Chelsea and the club was way too big for him, just like Pochettino managing a team like PSG, however, I still don't think by any means that Graham Potter is a terrible coach, he only just chose to manage the wrong club or maybe even the right the club but at the wrong time.

He wasn’t worthy of the job but he was in an awkward position. Boehly was just buying players like on FIFA. Tyere has been no real master plan, It’s just been spend an obscene amount of money on very average players. Kimd of like throwing loads of horse crap up a wall and hoping some of it sticks. So far their big spending spree looks like a big waste of a lot of money.

Don't blame the owner for spending the way he did; blame the coach for bringing in players he planned to leave on the bench; not a single one of them is a starter or getting a run of games; mudrik, Madueke, Fofana, and Bashilale have spent more time on the bench than they have on the field since they arrived. If they weren't part of his plan, why did he go through so much trouble to get them in the first place? These players are world-class, and if Liverpool fans are willing to give misfiring Darwin two seasons to adjust to the league, then these players who arrived two months ago may also require some time to adjust. The entire players appears unmotivated, and I'm hoping that the new guy can instill some confidence in the team.

Chelsea are oke of the worst teams for sacking managers quickly, Potter never really stood a chance did he. The Chelsea job is a poisoned chalice, Potter is better off not managing them. His career won’t be too badly dakaged because everybody gets sacked at Chelsea.

Hiring Potter was a huge mistake in the first place, and whoever recommended him should be fired as well. Potter is clearly on the same level as Lampard and Gerrad, he left Brighton, and the team is doing much better than when he was there. Give him two seasons and nothing would go right; it was the best decision for the club and the players.

Cutting losses for a better option was the best decision, Chelsea is never a mid-table team, we only needed 4 points to move to 8th place since December and we couldn't do it.
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I agree @LFC_Bitcoin Hendo is past his years but he/Milner are giving way more on the pitch then say, Fabinho, who seems to be giving up running. Even Gakpo was doing more midfield work than Fab when we were chasing back. Also, I still think we're suffering from last season having no break and wringing our players dry. That's not defending how bad they've been, just I think the club didn't act smart to replenish the team with fresh legs etc.

El Shitico is the most accurate assessment of tomorrow's game. Problem is, no more Potter and Rodgers and Conte to help people forget how bad Liverpool is.

It is true that Liverpool in its current form is not satisfying its fans and supporters. I believe that Liverpool needs new players after all the disruptions it has suffered this season, especially in midfield and a striker. Therefore, we will need to see that this summer.

Tomorrow we will face the Blues away, and I don't think I will bet on this match. We will see if Liverpool can achieve a victory against Chelsea, which itself has not achieved the desired results this season.

At the moment, we have a match between Tottenham and Everton, and there are only two minutes left in the first half, and the result does not serve either club. I hope that Tottenham can score in the second half and achieve the expected result of 2-0.

I think Liverpool can beat Chelsea especially after Chelsea management firing Potter at a very delicate part of this season.The first to benefit from such move it will surely be Liverpool which is going to win that game.I doubt that firing Potter was the right move to make at such time,right before a very important all in encounter which they have against Real Madrid in Champions and which is the only choice for Chelsea to compete in Europe next season too,but that is highly unlikely for them to qualify further.

On the game of tonight,Everton strange enough is pressuring a lot and Tottenham which has a golden opportunity to solidify their run to be in the top 4 are missing out,I hope this changes in the second half.
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I agree @LFC_Bitcoin Hendo is past his years but he/Milner are giving way more on the pitch then say, Fabinho, who seems to be giving up running. Even Gakpo was doing more midfield work than Fab when we were chasing back. Also, I still think we're suffering from last season having no break and wringing our players dry. That's not defending how bad they've been, just I think the club didn't act smart to replenish the team with fresh legs etc.

El Shitico is the most accurate assessment of tomorrow's game. Problem is, no more Potter and Rodgers and Conte to help people forget how bad Liverpool is.

It is true that Liverpool in its current form is not satisfying its fans and supporters. I believe that Liverpool needs new players after all the disruptions it has suffered this season, especially in midfield and a striker. Therefore, we will need to see that this summer.

Tomorrow we will face the Blues away, and I don't think I will bet on this match. We will see if Liverpool can achieve a victory against Chelsea, which itself has not achieved the desired results this season.

At the moment, we have a match between Tottenham and Everton, and there are only two minutes left in the first half, and the result does not serve either club. I hope that Tottenham can score in the second half and achieve the expected result of 2-0.
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I've always knew you're just a blatant spammer, that supports Liverpool.

I do hope you're enjoying the game man, there's nothing more suiting than knowing, I'm going to get a win over you in the question about the match, more so with Liverpool on the losing end after a supposedly great goal to take the lead Tongue Tongue Tongue

Haha fairplay Harko, I think even objectively, I notice I probably talk Liverpool a bit too much on forum, even when it's not football or England, I have to find a way to bring them into the conversation. Believe me, I have backspaced and edited posts more over the years heh heh

So with Rodgers and Potter out, this season has made a new record: most managers fired in a single season. Klopp even said he knows everyone is asking why he's still here, "last man standing" he admits.

I agree @LFC_Bitcoin Hendo is past his years but he/Milner are giving way more on the pitch then say, Fabinho, who seems to be giving up running. Even Gakpo was doing more midfield work than Fab when we were chasing back. Also, I still think we're suffering from last season having no break and wringing our players dry. That's not defending how bad they've been, just I think the club didn't act smart to replenish the team with fresh legs etc.

El Shitico is the most accurate assessment of tomorrow's game. Problem is, no more Potter and Rodgers and Conte to help people forget how bad Liverpool is.
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Yeah we are a joke, mate. Has a club ever fallen off the cliff as badly as we have, we have gone from arguably the best team in world football in 2020 to a mid table Premier League club in 2023.

Two and a half years, has that level of decline ever happened before?

In the future we are going to be used as the perfect example what you don't do when you reach the top. You are supposed to recruit top players whilst you’re on top because once you start to regress it’s so much harder to get back to the top.

Would Henderson get into any other top 6 team, let alone captain  them? Klopp has been too loyal to old, declining players. The midfield needs major surgery in the summer, if we don’t Klopp will be out of a job by Christmas.

We have picked up 12 points out of a possible 42 away from home this season which is less than Southampton and Leicester City.

Eight away defeats in the Premier League is our most since 2014-15 when Brendan Rodgers’ reign fell off the rails.

We are on course for our worst ever PL season.

Ironically it’s Chelsea away next……

I feel that Klopp doesn't really have a choice. We're being outspent by half the teams in the league - I'm sure he doesn't want to play Milner and Hendo in the middle but what can he do?
When we had a crisis in midfield the best they could do was Arthur who won't play a single minute even though we had 5 midfielders injured.

If we want to stay at the top, we need to act like the teams that aim for the top - meaning that we need 2 or 3 successive transfer windows with 150 mil+ net spent. We need 2 midfielders and a CB in the summer for sure - and that costs up to 200 million euros. Will we get them? My guess is we won't, unless we sell a few players as well.

Who can we sell? Well, nobody this season. So buckle up, it's gonna be a shitty summer yet again.
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I have always been of the opinion that Graham Potter wasn't in my opinion worthy to coach Chelsea and the club was way too big for him, just like Pochettino managing a team like PSG, however, I still don't think by any means that Graham Potter is a terrible coach, he only just chose to manage the wrong club or maybe even the right the club but at the wrong time.

He wasn’t worthy of the job but he was in an awkward position. Boehly was just buying players like on FIFA. Tyere has been no real master plan, It’s just been spend an obscene amount of money on very average players. Kimd of like throwing loads of horse crap up a wall and hoping some of it sticks. So far their big spending spree looks like a big waste of a lot of money.

Chelsea are oke of the worst teams for sacking managers quickly, Potter never really stood a chance did he. The Chelsea job is a poisoned chalice, Potter is better off not managing them. His career won’t be too badly dakaged because everybody gets sacked at Chelsea.

Chelsea have been a joke all season, probably worse than my team LFC because of the money spent. Having said that, Tuesday night is battle of the flops of the season, Chelsea vs LFC, aka El Shitico.
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So no one here in the pool talking about the really bad results of Manchester United (which is the last time I bet on those f*ckers) as they screwed all of my tickets tonight,I had them to win,I had them win or draw as I thought that would be the worst it could happen to them and I also had them both teams to score and none of these bets came true.Their recent form has made them not be so comfortable in the top 4 as Tottenham most probably will surpass them tomorrow as I am sure they will win against Everton in tomorrow night game.Things are becoming complicated for them yet no one says a thing about Ten Haag but everybody speaks about Potter,aren't they doing the same results in the last 3 games?

I have avoided betting on United for a long time for one simple reason: look at their game schedule. After the World Cup, this is the worst game schedule of any team. It is impossible to ensure stable results when you are exhausted.
By the way, because of this result, the most affected of all ... Liverpool!  Grin If earlier they had to get around Tottenham and finish off Newcastle, now Newcastle seems to have become a little further, but the fact that United lost points did not change anything.
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So no one here in the pool talking about the really bad results of Manchester United (which is the last time I bet on those f*ckers) as they screwed all of my tickets tonight,I had them to win,I had them win or draw as I thought that would be the worst it could happen to them and I also had them both teams to score and none of these bets came true.Their recent form has made them not be so comfortable in the top 4 as Tottenham most probably will surpass them tomorrow as I am sure they will win against Everton in tomorrow night game.Things are becoming complicated for them yet no one says a thing about Ten Haag but everybody speaks about Potter,aren't they doing the same results in the last 3 games?
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This is the same club that won the Champions League two years ago, and you think Potter isn't a problem? Come on, man.

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We are sure he is not getting sack anytime soon and we are mentally ready for championship next season.


First Tuchel was the cancer, despite winning the champions league just two years ago, and reached 5 finals, If I remember correctly.

I have always been of the opinion that Graham Potter wasn't in my opinion worthy to coach Chelsea and the club was way too big for him, just like Pochettino managing a team like PSG, however, I still don't think by any means that Graham Potter is a terrible coach, he only just chose to manage the wrong club or maybe even the right the club but at the wrong time.
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Is this Potter main mistake, of course I will say that this is really his fault in building a squad in a better direction.  There has been no progress at all on the revamp they made in the transfer window. Spending £ 282 million I think it was quite useless this season because Chelsea failed in every way in every game. Next season Chelsea is not in the champions league or europa league, a bad thing for them this season.

Nagelsmaan will be a big favorite if Chelsea send a letter of dismissal for Potter. Something has to change for chelsea because we are already overwhelmed to make memes for them. Come on, Tood Boehly, make a wise decision like Bayern Munich did.

Do you think Bayern made a wise decision? Hmmm... will see.
As for Potter, I haven't checked but it looks like his "accomplishments" as head coach are record breaking in a negative way (of course, if you do not take into account teams from the survival zone that change their coach). I don't know if he will be sacked after the games against Real Madrid (if Chelsea loses) but if Chelsea show weak-willed football then the management will not have much choice.
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Is this Potter main mistake, of course I will say that this is really his fault in building a squad in a better direction.  There has been no progress at all on the revamp they made in the transfer window. Spending £ 282 million I think it was quite useless this season because Chelsea failed in every way in every game. Next season Chelsea is not in the champions league or europa league, a bad thing for them this season.

Nagelsmaan will be a big favorite if Chelsea send a letter of dismissal for Potter. Something has to change for chelsea because we are already overwhelmed to make memes for them. Come on, Tood Boehly, make a wise decision like Bayern Munich did.

I doubt it would change anything even if they fire him and sign Nagelsmaan as the time left for this season simply does not permit it for any new coach to bring some improvements and that is why Chelsea management is keeping Potter as they believe in a long term project despite results not going their way.I am sure that they will come back in the following games,they just need to find the balance as I don't think 282 million pounds are useless in any way for any team and the coach just needs some time to instill his view in the players and for it to come to life in the field.I know it looks really gloomy right now but I am confident they will come back and next season they will be a really strong team and contenders to the title.
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