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Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 05:46:28 PM

Nice try but we don't celebrate mediocrity here. I saw you celebrating Kai Havertz scoring and celebrating against his former employer, saw you celebrating Ode holding up camera after scoring a goal, saw you celebrating parking the bus against Manchester city in your most crucial game of the season ( go and read Rodric statement on that).

I was not celebrating Kai scoring, I was taunting you who had talked down on him all season. Besides all fans cheer when their players score, that is part of the game

I did not celebrate Martin holding up a camera, it was just a wholesome moment. I rather criticized pundits who had an issue with such a beautiful moment with a long serving staff at the club

I did not celebrate a draw at Etihad, I took a decent point which was a good result at the time. Rodri whinges every-time a club does not play the way they do. He did it after the Madrid match too. There are different ways to play football, you support Chelsea that is renowned for packing the bus over the years, you should even be the last person talking about style of play, especially not to Arsenal that has always played a beautiful brand of football.

Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 05:46:28 PM

I'm curious to see what they show to the incoming players - the invincible trophy?

You do realize we have won MORE THAN DOUBLE the EPL trophies Chelsea has.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 24, 2024, 12:40:25 PM

Better tell me, are the quotes for relegation from the Premier League for Chelsea and City nonsense or do they really make sense?

Have you considered TV rights and the money the English FA would lose if City and Chelsea were relegated? They would be in the same level with the French league. Relegation is never an option; this isn't the Italian league. We are talking about the world's most corrupt football association here

Quote from: un_rank on May 24, 2024, 02:59:08 PM

You have been celebrating a league cup final for the past 2 months.

Nice try but we don't celebrate mediocrity here. I saw you celebrating Kai Havertz scoring and celebrating against his former employer, saw you celebrating Ode holding up camera after scoring a goal, saw you celebrating parking the bus against Manchester city in your most crucial game of the season ( go and read Rodric statement on that).

Quote from: cryptofrka on May 24, 2024, 01:29:21 PM

There are onky 4 trophies to fight for, but only a few teams that are targeting them all at the beginning of the season. This Arsenal is one of those teams.
FA cup home loss to LFC, League Cup loss to WH, CL loss to a weak Bayern team after almost getting knocked out by Porto?

What gave you the platform to go far in the league is 10 games less than LFC and City. And that can be described as an average season at best.

It must be quite difficult being an Arsenal fan; other from 13 FA Cups and countless Emirates preseason cups, they basically have nothing to brag about. I'm curious to see what they show to the incoming players - the invincible trophy?

Arteta is already on £700m, one or two more transfer windows and he will hit the £1b bottle jobs status Grin

@buwaytress - Manchester United should focus on fixing their leaking stadium and getting new gym equipments. Very old fashioned club.

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I say bring back the fan fights! I would actually merit Igeh and un_rank constantly if I were a source. Sometimes this place gets a bit too vanilla for there to be any meaningful rivalry.

With that said, how are the Manure fans doing in the closet? You now know how it feels like to be plumbing the depths of mediocrity, which in itself is not too bad, but the spectacular amounts of money you're paying to do that plus debts incurred while your owners reap dividends, must really grind your gears.

Quote from: KTChampions on May 24, 2024, 12:40:25 PM

City - 26
Chelsea - 21

For comparison: the ratio of Liverpool and Arsenal is quoted as 1000 to 1. I don’t really believe in justice and in the fact that a cheating club will be expelled from the Premier League, probably it’s just bookmakers trying to get money from simpletons?

This is nonsense. Even if they get expelled (they won't) that's not the same as relegation. I'd love to have a beer with the guy who bets on City/Chelsea relegation...

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Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 12:14:51 PM

Elite clubs do not celebrate reaching the quarterfinals. We (Chelsea ) are the English team with the most CL semifinal appearances (eight), but you will never see our supporters or players discuss it.

You have been celebrating a league cup final for the past 2 months.

Quote from: KTChampions on May 24, 2024, 12:40:25 PM

Wow, fan fights Grin

It is just honest banter, sports' no fun without it Wink

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Arsenal under Wenger was one of the best led clubs in the world. Invincibles were done in different time, no matter the draws it is a great achievement.
How they remained challengers is for the history books, they overachieved basically in every season.

This Arsenal spends a lot and has an elite team which they don't need to sell off. Arsenal should be in position where they fight on all 4 fronts and pushing City to the last day of the PL season isn't that great.
Shows that the team is strong and is making progress, but at the end of the day it doesn't give anything but a sour taste in your mouth - ask any LFC fan and we'll tell you that.

There are onky 4 trophies to fight for, but only a few teams that are targeting them all at the beginning of the season. This Arsenal is one of those teams.
FA cup home loss to LFC, League Cup loss to WH, CL loss to a weak Bayern team after almost getting knocked out by Porto?

What gave you the platform to go far in the league is 10 games less than LFC and City. And that can be described as an average season at best.

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Wow, fan fights Grin

Better tell me, are the quotes for relegation from the Premier League for Chelsea and City nonsense or do they really make sense?

City - 26
Chelsea - 21

For comparison: the ratio of Liverpool and Arsenal is quoted as 1000 to 1. I don’t really believe in justice and in the fact that a cheating club will be expelled from the Premier League, probably it’s just bookmakers trying to get money from simpletons?

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 24, 2024, 05:56:14 AM

Like you said a chat for another day but I don’t think they would have beaten peak Pep or Klopp teams. Arteta’s current Arsenal would give them a game.

100+ years and the club biggest achievement is being the worst invincible side in Europe top 5 league. They can't even chat to Atalanta fans at the moment. A discussion for another day. Grin

They didn't even survive the Chelsea -Mourinho era Grin

Quote from: un_rank on May 24, 2024, 07:24:28 AM

That is so wrong. A league cup/3rd place finish is not better than a champions league quarter final finish and a 2nd place finish in the league.

Elite clubs do not celebrate reaching the quarterfinals. We (Chelsea ) are the English team with the most CL semifinal appearances (eight), but you will never see our supporters or players discuss it.The day you start winning major trophies, you'll realise that being knocked out and not winning a trophy is a failure.

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You get very easily riled up about what Arsenal fans do and think. We actually do not brag about the invincible season, you actually talk about it more here than I do.

Everybody knows this except you....

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Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 04:40:51 AM

Lol You had more wins this season(28) than during your invincible hey Mary days(26) Grin

; do you understand how horrible that sounds?

You are all over the place today. An invincible season is not perfection, it can always be bettered, and as a Club we hit our second highest point tally last season, of course that can better going unbeaten on the score board.
During Chelsea's unbeaten run at home record you won 62 and drew 84, that is approximately more draws to matches than we had when we went 49 games unbeaten, but you know what, it does not make it any less impressive. That is what records are, doing something no one has ever done before or since.

Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 04:40:51 AM

Liverpool finished 3rd and won the league cup- A better season than you finishing second with nothing. Football is about trophies; nobody cares about your position. (Elite club mindset, you know)

That is so wrong. A league cup/3rd place finish is not better than a champions league quarter final finish and a 2nd place finish in the league.

Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 04:40:51 AM

Only Arsenal feels the Invincible Trophy is bigger than the Champions League Trophy.. A discussion for another day.

You get very easily riled up about what Arsenal fans do and think. We actually do not brag about the invincible season, you actually talk about it more here than I do.

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Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 04:40:51 AM

I'm not limited to English football; have you ever seen Juventus or Celtics fans post their invincible trophies and brag like Arsenal fans do every season? Only Arsenal feels the Invincible Trophy is bigger than the Champions League Trophy.. A discussion for another day.

Arsenal drew 12 games that season, ended up on 90 points. Man City and Liverpool regularly got over 90 points over the last 6-7 years and have done better in the CL than that Arsenal squad ever did.

Like you said a chat for another day but I don’t think they would have beaten peak Pep or Klopp teams. Arteta’s current Arsenal would give them a game.

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Quote from: un_rank on May 24, 2024, 03:54:10 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 03:48:39 AM

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It is ironic how in the same paragraph you try to downplay an incredible invincible season that only a handful of teams have done and then try to overate getting to and losing finals and in the same paragraph still try to downplay finishing second in the biggest competition in the land. Focus on getting a manager and settling your financial situation.

Lol You had more wins this season(28) than during your invincible hey Mary days(26) Grin

; do you understand how horrible that sounds?

Liverpool finished 3rd and won the league cup- A better season than you finishing second with nothing. Football is about trophies; nobody cares about your position. (Elite club mindset, you know)

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Also those teams talk about their achievements, you just do not know what goes on outside the English game.

I'm not limited to English football; have you ever seen Juventus or Celtics fans post their invincible trophies and brag like Arsenal fans do every season? Only Arsenal feels the Invincible Trophy is bigger than the Champions League Trophy.. A discussion for another day.

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Quote from: Igebotz on May 24, 2024, 03:48:39 AM

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It is ironic how in the same paragraph you try to downplay an incredible invincible season that only a handful of teams have done and then try to overate getting to and losing finals and in the same paragraph still try to downplay finishing second in the biggest competition in the land. Focus on getting a manager and settling your financial situation.

Also those teams talk about their achievements, you just do not know what goes on outside the English game.

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Quote from: un_rank on May 24, 2024, 03:30:21 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on May 23, 2024, 04:22:03 PM

I feel sorry for Arsenal fans as they might never witness anything.

I witnessed Arsenal invincible days and our defensive masterclass leading up to out Champions league final. It has been downhill from there with so much potential and optimism which has not materialized into domination. But the years of zero trophies are behind us and it is once again looking like our best years are ahead.

We still have more premier league trophies than Chelsea Grin

. Plus your best days look to be behind.

Your biggest achievement is what Juventus, Celtics and Bayer fans don't brag about and you had the worse invincible among these teams ( bunch of draws). Imagine calling 1EPL title and a CL final glory days hahahah No it isn't bro Grin

Chelsea two mid seasons - 3 domestic finals

Arsenal two best seasons - zero finals

Your club is allergy to trophies bro. Finishing 2nd is not a flex.

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Quote from: Igebotz on May 23, 2024, 04:22:03 PM

I feel sorry for Arsenal fans as they might never witness anything.

I witnessed Arsenal invincible days and our defensive masterclass leading up to out Champions league final. It has been downhill from there with so much potential and optimism which has not materialized into domination. But the years of zero trophies are behind us and it is once again looking like our best years are ahead.

We still have more premier league trophies than Chelsea Grin

. Plus your best days look to be behind.

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 23, 2024, 11:30:15 AM

I'm feeling vibes of falling out of love with football too. Maybe it's just this season. Still watch Liverpool whenever I can, but been going through zombie-like sessions lately when watching other teams.

We did not expect Liverpool to be in top 4 at the beginning of the season but then we thought [I thought] we might win the league title. In the 3rd quarter of the season we were even leading the point table. Even we were able to draw the match against inform City. And then some poor performance. Draw against Utd, losing against Everton, and then more two draw matches, I felt like we lost everything that we could have.

Good thing is we are going to Champions League.

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 23, 2024, 11:30:15 AM

I started supporting Liverpool properly just after the Owen UEFA Cup win, so I had to go through about 15 years of shit, it's a cycle. You'll appreciate the glory days when they arrive, if you live long enough. As long as City fall, state-sponsored clubs are a big yawn, sorry Citeh.

I've witnessed Chelsea Glory days now I'm just gotta prepare for the dark days but it's kinda weird to move from Hero to zero it's always the other way round. I feel sorry for Arsenal fans as they might never witness anything.

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 23, 2024, 02:14:40 PM

The trouble with lots of places is that it just devalues all the other slots. Whilst it's nice for people to win something or get their money back I'd rather reward the absolute top players than just have half the pool win something. It's also a pain to send out lots of places, not to mention fees eat into the pot even more.

If we cough out $6k for first place, what's stopping us from coughing out $5k and spreading the remaining $1k among the 11th to 20th positions? This way, half of the pool can recoup their buy-in fees and prepare for the next season, however if we accept 50 players and award only 10, a small fraction of the remaining 40 may lose interest in the long run.

I enjoy how the BSFL operates; no matter how poorly you performed, there is always something; no one plays for nothing. This way, the interest remains high.

This is good suggestion while we are having 50 plus members and prize for the top 20 surely increase the interest and also from here we can expect increase of members which will be helpful for the pool and prize.

Here we can do this easily if we have members less than 50 then prize will be for the top 10 and if we are having 50 plus then for the 20 and after this if we have 75 then we can go for the 25 prizes slots which could be more interesting hopefully OP will think about this for the coming season.

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 23, 2024, 11:30:15 AM

I started supporting Liverpool properly just after the Owen UEFA Cup win, so I had to go through about 15 years of shit, it's a cycle. You'll appreciate the glory days when they arrive, if you live long enough. As long as City fall, state-sponsored clubs are a big yawn, sorry Citeh.

I've witnessed Chelsea Glory days now I'm just gotta prepare for the dark days but it's kinda weird to move from Hero to zero it's always the other way round. I feel sorry for Arsenal fans as they might never witness anything.

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 23, 2024, 02:14:40 PM

The trouble with lots of places is that it just devalues all the other slots. Whilst it's nice for people to win something or get their money back I'd rather reward the absolute top players than just have half the pool win something. It's also a pain to send out lots of places, not to mention fees eat into the pot even more.

If we cough out $6k for first place, what's stopping us from coughing out $5k and spreading the remaining $1k among the 11th to 20th positions? This way, half of the pool can recoup their buy-in fees and prepare for the next season, however if we accept 50 players and award only 10, a small fraction of the remaining 40 may lose interest in the long run.

I enjoy how the BSFL operates; no matter how poorly you performed, there is always something; no one plays for nothing. This way, the interest remains high.

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Does anyone know of any companies that might be willing to sponsor the Euro pool? jeremypwr said sportsbet will sponsor next years PL but not the Euros but would be nice to try find someone else to spice up the pot a little.

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I'm for the higher fee. It's nothing, really, guys, if indeed we are Bitcoin users and gamblers, even in my home economy, $70 is what a casual gambler would be paying betting one game every matchweek per season. What would a $35 difference be over the course of a year?

I'm fine to pay high fees if only we're going to have more reward spots like 1-20th as past season; after all, I lose more than $100 on Chelsea every weekend. I'm not going to win anyway; I'm just here for the fun and banter.

The trouble with lots of places is that it just devalues all the other slots. Whilst it's nice for people to win something or get their money back I'd rather reward the absolute top players than just have half the pool win something. It's also a pain to send out lots of places, not to mention fees eat into the pot even more.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on May 23, 2024, 11:48:11 AM

~ But if we do winner takes all, I'm afraid 70% of people will stop playing after the group stage.

It is very likely that someone will be so lucky that at the group stage they will have a big advantage over others (or even worse for those lagging behind - there will be several clear leaders at once, and accordingly there is little chance that they will all suddenly fail) and then there will be no point pay rebuy again for those who are eliminated. I am 99.9% sure that in any case, 50% of the participants will drop out after the group stage.

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 23, 2024, 11:30:15 AM

You hit it on the head. I do miss a winner takes all format. Bragging rights are so much sweeter that way too. I think we'll have a pool no matter the outcome, looking forward!

I like them as well, not in Superbru though. Too much luck-based for me, not really fun as well, I play that one only for the prizes.
I'll still play even if that's the chosen format, it's Euros - you have to play them all. But if we do winner takes all, I'm afraid 70% of people will stop playing after the group stage.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 22, 2024, 03:50:57 PM

I am always up for that. Sponsor money makes it very favorable but there is some extra magic in those pools where we have only buyins and winner-takes-all format. I win less but I feel extra good every time I land one of those Grin

You hit it on the head. I do miss a winner takes all format. Bragging rights are so much sweeter that way too. I think we'll have a pool no matter the outcome, looking forward!

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Igehbotz Poch is out. Happy?

We've been waiting for this news since September of last year, but after what we achieved in the second half of the season, how attacking we were, and what he accomplished after a bad spell, I was willing to give him another season, but we have idiots as owners, and it's stupid not to allow your manager to be involved in players recruitment.

We lost Tuchel under similar scenarios, and these losers are still doing the same thing today. I was starting to dream again, but looking at the shortlisted names made me laugh. I lived it, loved it, goodbye to the beautiful game. I will be watching India and Pakistan cricket next season.

I'm feeling vibes of falling out of love with football too. Maybe it's just this season. Still watch Liverpool whenever I can, but been going through zombie-like sessions lately when watching other teams.

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I'm a United fan, we're in for a rough few years Cheesy

We're both going on the Pre-Klopp Liverpool and pre-Arteta Arsenal era. Manchester United mistake was letting go De Gea for a pass merchant who can't catch a fly. Gonna take Chelsea and Manutd a long time to compete again. I've seen the light.

I started supporting Liverpool properly just after the Owen UEFA Cup win, so I had to go through about 15 years of shit, it's a cycle. You'll appreciate the glory days when they arrive, if you live long enough. As long as City fall, state-sponsored clubs are a big yawn, sorry Citeh.

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