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Quote from: mv1986 on November 18, 2023, 06:16:13 AM

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Does cricket not go back and forth with whose turn it is? It is one team first and then the other? Or why was Australia such an overwhelming favorite when to someone who has no idea about the sport this looks like South Africa is way ahead?

teams chose in the beginning are they want to bat (other team throws, similar to baseball), on a coin toss, usually team that win coin toss, chose to bat
and South Africa was first to bat, and collect points, there is 50 rounds, and 6 throws in every round
first 8 rounds were as miserable as possible for South Africa (getting 10 points, which is 1,25 points per round), and it was known that they will lose at that point
afterwards they improved and reached 212 points (which is also low, 4,2 points per round), but they didn't had enough players to bat 50 rounds (you can see that they finished at 48.5, so 12 throws less than maximum)

Australia had easy target to reach 212, and they made it
from your pictures, on 130 Australia has 6,19 points per round (way more than 4,2 points that South Africa finished with) - 130/21 - so absolute favorites, and on second picture they have 5,35 points per round (not that much more, but it is close to end, and they needed 32 points from 17 rounds remaining (less than 2 points per round, which is as easy as it gets))
and they finished with 47.2 rounds, so didn't even need all 50 to win

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Quote from: Trofo on November 18, 2023, 05:55:14 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on November 18, 2023, 05:36:35 AM

Although we do have one very nice tax law concerning cryptos and that is if you hold your crypto > 12 months, whatever the gain is that you make afterwards when you sell is 0% tax.

Now we are going a bit of topic but hopefully nobody will mind. We have same law in Croatia, it is just 2 years and not 1. Only problem with that law is that it only helps you if you have somewhat clean transaction history. You need to be able to show that you are selling same BTC you bought 2 years ago, not so easy for most of us. For me that only works for small part of my portfolio, where I have BTC I bought in local company with receipt and everything and I left it on that same wallet all the time. Everything else is still sort of grey area and I am not sure how it would get handled.

Yes, I can feel that pain as the clean transaction history really is a thing if you are doing some little trading here, HODLing there, betting there, using a DEX, then a CEX, then a swap service etc... Very complicated and there is no software tool that could every cleanly grasp it. It is all excel-sheet work if it gets that complex.

Yes back to topic! Wink

So I made some screenshots because I figured I have no idea how cricket works. I only have them in German but those who understand cricket will also understand my screenshots (in contrast to me).

At the bottom of each screenshot are the odds who is going to win, or I think is more of a voting of people using that tool. The screenshots are in chronological order and as you can imagine, when I saw the result on the first screenshot, it says 212 - 130/3, making Australia a 94% favorite.

Does cricket not go back and forth with whose turn it is? It is one team first and then the other? Or why was Australia such an overwhelming favorite when to someone who has no idea about the sport this looks like South Africa is way ahead?

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 18, 2023, 05:36:35 AM

Although we do have one very nice tax law concerning cryptos and that is if you hold your crypto > 12 months, whatever the gain is that you make afterwards when you sell is 0% tax.

Now we are going a bit of topic but hopefully nobody will mind. We have same law in Croatia, it is just 2 years and not 1. Only problem with that law is that it only helps you if you have somewhat clean transaction history. You need to be able to show that you are selling same BTC you bought 2 years ago, not so easy for most of us. For me that only works for small part of my portfolio, where I have BTC I bought in local company with receipt and everything and I left it on that same wallet all the time. Everything else is still sort of grey area and I am not sure how it would get handled.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 18, 2023, 05:23:42 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on November 18, 2023, 05:20:01 AM

Since when has that been established in Croatia?

That first 5% from every stake was here as long as I remember so at least 20-25 years. This was manageable since our bookies generally have a bit higher odds then usual to offset that. That extra tax on winnings came a bit later, not sure when but maybe 10years ago? That was the time when I started to look for other options. Problem is it is not allowed to use sites like bet365 here and you can be in problems if you pay out large winnings. Crypto bookies were my saviors

Interesting and bet365 is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the growing market in Germany. But don't get me wrong here, I had the prejudice that Croatia maybe one of those countries where there is lax regulation and probably more welcoming towards gambling, but I don't really know why I thought that. Probably because I am used to very strict rules in many things in Germany and then think that is must be less strict elsewhere.

Although we do have one very nice tax law concerning cryptos and that is if you hold your crypto > 12 months, whatever the gain is that you make afterwards when you sell is 0% tax.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 18, 2023, 05:20:01 AM

Since when has that been established in Croatia?

That first 5% from every stake was here as long as I remember so at least 20-25 years. This was manageable since our bookies generally have a bit higher odds then usual to offset that. That extra tax on winnings came a bit later, not sure when but maybe 10years ago? That was the time when I started to look for other options. Problem is it is not allowed to use sites like bet365 here and you can be in problems if you pay out large winnings. Crypto bookies were my saviors

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Quote from: Trofo on November 18, 2023, 04:54:49 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 03:19:21 PM

Any good free tennis streaming platform? My source only stream selected fixtures.

I am watching on my local bookie supersport.hr. I don't think it will help you though since I believe they are geo fixed, if you want to go trough the hassle and install VPN that has Croatia and you manage to register. Let me know and I will happily sponsor your account with few EUR. You need to have balance to be able to watch the games but you don't have to bet on any of them. They are our best bookie but I stopped using them due to high taxes on winnings in Croatia. No way to beat the bookie when they take 5% of every stake and extra 10% of every win. And that is only for smallest amounts up 100EUR, after that it gets to 15-30%.

This is crazy:

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No way to beat the bookie when they take 5% of every stake and extra 10% of every win. And that is only for smallest amounts up 100EUR, after that it gets to 15-30%.

No need to mention that in terms of taxes Germany can suck really hard, but betting on sports or other gambling activities does not entail any taxes, except for the so called "Gambling tax", which is 5.3% and supposed to be paid by the gambling provider. In Germany the bookies sometimes deduct that 5.3% immediately from your stakes. Some use it as a promo that the pay it and don't deduct it from the players.

But 5% of every stake and then 15-30% for winnings in excess of 100 EUR is nuts.

This is a German article, but an official one from some major tax support association in Germany and it says that 9.4 billion EUR were generated in revenue in 2021 and I wonder if that high revenue is also the reason why they keep the tax low to not shy away the industry. Since when has that been established in Croatia?

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 03:19:21 PM

Any good free tennis streaming platform? My source only stream selected fixtures.

I am watching on my local bookie supersport.hr. I don't think it will help you though since I believe they are geo fixed, if you want to go trough the hassle and install VPN that has Croatia and you manage to register. Let me know and I will happily sponsor your account with few EUR. You need to have balance to be able to watch the games but you don't have to bet on any of them. They are our best bookie but I stopped using them due to high taxes on winnings in Croatia. No way to beat the bookie when they take 5% of every stake and extra 10% of every win. And that is only for smallest amounts up 100EUR, after that it gets to 15-30%.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 17, 2023, 04:31:32 AM

Lost this round way too early, guess time to sack the manager to try to get better results before league concludes.

Congratulations @goodpunt, never thought Bulgaria and Uraguay would make this round an easy win for you..honestly feel scammed by that Argentina performance Cry

Thanks just got lucky...or maybe not!? I know it's against the rules but I was time travelling Cheesy

Best of luck for your next games.

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Quote from: buwaytress on November 17, 2023, 06:09:47 PM

Boo Poland, you coulda at least won and not given slackovic a point. Looks like it's down to Lukalu, eh slackovic?

/snip

Didn't I tell you all that this game smells like a draw to me? Usually I don't like betting on a draw, but from the experience playing the LaLiga pool sometimes it just makes sense to go for a draw. I have won a lot of points in the LaLiga pool by going with a draw.

I hope Lukaku won't dissapont. I would have went with Lukaku not to score but Belgium is playing against Azerbaijan so he should score. My only concern is that Lukaku won't play because Belgium already secured the 2nd place. I didn't think of it while I was submitting my answers.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 04:32:12 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on November 17, 2023, 04:20:37 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 04:16:38 PM

Man why are you still subscribing to DSTV? I boycotted that scam company early this year.

They're f**king irritants, but the stupid goverment have placed us in a position to keep getting exploited by every stupid company including telecommunications and data providers, now my premium subscription is over N30,000 that's ~ the minimum wage of the country per month!

Minimum wage= 1 month subscription= bloody hell.

Why are they offering PAUW ( pay as you watch) to other west African countries but not in Nigeria. Man you're still enriching this evil agenda. Boycott now!!!!

If the Poland game ends in draw then I'm headed to another potential draw round Sad

I understand it's a messed up situation, but I'm not enriching them in my opinion because the cost of running their business here too is actually very absurd, bar the lack of basic amenities like eletricity, security and the country's economy is also ruining their businesses that's why some of these companies have resulted into charging their consumers in USD instead of the local legal tender, and if you don't pay for these service with television cables networks, you'll pay almost twice as much to internet service providers if you're a heavy sport follower llike myself, can we possibly boycott the use of petrol because of the absurd price it cost in the country ? and it's not getting any better sadly, you cannot even get a clear Nativional TV station without this cable providers.

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Poland couldn't win their match, I could careless, I have no bet on them, neither do they impact my fixture.

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Quote from: Slissy on November 17, 2023, 05:34:57 PM

I love your bet 😁 Unfortunately, things went wrong because Medvedev lost.
mv1986 Congratulations on 3 points for this round😁

This has been a miserable round for me! not a single right. And I've lost before the weekend starts😂
The only thing that can make this round better is to win a couple of bets so i can forget this round 😁

Thanks @Slissy and yes, this was quite a miserable round for you in terms of results, but let me tell you that I do prefer the BSFL thrill to last until Sunday. Sure it is more comfortable knowing the thing is over and I got the 3 points, but I like checking results over the weekend as it is the time when I got some more time for myself anyway. But since I have been wrong on the Poland - Czech question, I think I am also pretty much out of the competition for the free bet.

Good luck on the next one!

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Boo Poland, you coulda at least won and not given slackovic a point. Looks like it's down to Lukalu, eh slackovic?

Quote from: Trofo on November 17, 2023, 01:05:58 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 12:40:38 PM

I'm pleased we didn't sign Urgate because the guy has no respect and calling De Paul a dick sucker warrants more than a 10-game suspension. The Uruguay national team players has a long history of abuse, disrespect to opponent players.

You played football? I don't know how it is some civilized countries but I hear stuff like that and worse almost on weekly basis

And I am thinking South Americans are even worse. Bear in mind that Argentina squad is one of the "dirtiest" out there. So I don't exactly understand why this incident gets that much coverage. Is dick sucker so much worse than "hijo de puta"? Which is like good day there and said almost every time some decision is questionable.

Yeah, I've definitely been called much worse in football, generally just really nasty the younger I remember. Think over the years plenty of lipreading video shows much worse. Zidane remembers, and he was the one who got a red card for his sending off (and even a statue haha) while the recipient of his head got nothing.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 17, 2023, 01:05:58 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 12:40:38 PM

I'm pleased we didn't sign Urgate because the guy has no respect and calling De Paul a dick sucker warrants more than a 10-game suspension. The Uruguay national team players has a long history of abuse, disrespect to opponent players.

You played football? I don't know how it is some civilized countries but I hear stuff like that and worse almost on weekly basis

And I am thinking South Americans are even worse. Bear in mind that Argentina squad is one of the "dirtiest" out there. So I don't exactly understand why this incident gets that much coverage. Is dick sucker so much worse than "hijo de puta"? Which is like good day there and said almost every time some decision is questionable.

Hahaha i can confirm from Argentina, here we insult so much everytime when we play, and in the ears some players can say a very very nasty things. For example if someone goes really hard on a player is very common to hear "que haces la concha de tu madre como vas a ir asi hijo de de remil puta" what translation is something like ""What are you doing with your mother, how are you going to go like this, son of a thousand bitchs?

I dont want the football to become snowflake and less here but is the way we go.

One thing what is really a shit is for example the finger in the ass made by a chilean player against a Uruguay player a few years back. That yes in unnaceptable.

Asides of that Argentinian and Uruguayn players are very friendly between them, because we are the same, they are our "little rebel province" and they ended up play here in Argentina always and in the world we always share the "mate" (drink), the BBQ etc we have the same traditions. So no problem.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 17, 2023, 07:50:54 AM

The setup for the last two questions that will decide the match between me and Slissy is actually quite awesome for a hedge, as I just noticed.

There are four games, which is the two qualifiers for Wales and Croatia and I picked "no" for both winning their matches, and I said Alcaraz over Zverev. Since the latter only works out for Slissy when both Medvedev and Zverev win their games, I am in a comfortable position to hedge at very high odds:

I am not really going big here, but turning 12 bucks into 100 bucks is still cool. Total odds are around 8.5. @Slissy, you can only win if my bet slip hits 4/4. Otherwise I am taking home the 3 points. It's interesting how valuable it can be to take the lead after the first three or four questions by just 1 point as it opens up these hedging opportunities at pretty low cost.

I love your bet 😁 Unfortunately, things went wrong because Medvedev lost.
mv1986 Congratulations on 3 points for this round😁

This has been a miserable round for me! not a single right. And I've lost before the weekend starts😂
The only thing that can make this round better is to win a couple of bets so i can forget this round 😁

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 17, 2023, 02:38:19 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on November 17, 2023, 02:26:46 PM

For the cricket question, I picked South Africa so you got one point there for picking Australia and as we both have India as the answer and winner of the world cup then that means you won on this question

Really?
What is going to happen if Australia wins in final against India?

It doesnt matter at all because if any of the answer worth 1 point then that means you are 2 points on this question ( India and Australia ) compared to me that only get 1 point on India so your answer should be marked as green against me on this question

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 17, 2023, 02:26:46 PM

For the tennis question, Rune lost so Sinner made it to the the semifinal. Everything else was the same for us including the winner so it wont really matter anymore. For today, Poland need to win so the score will be back to 2-2 if they did

And if Djokovic dont win final do I still win this question?
This is confusing.

Same situation with the cricket question, the only difference on both of our answers are Rune and Sinner. Sinner made it to the playoff and Rune didnt so that means you won a point on this question so that should be another green for you once it is graded

Oh well there goes another point for me because Poland failed to win

. Now I need either Wales or Croatia not to win tomorrow. This is my last chance to get a point because the final question between both of us would be on Belgium but there is a chance on this question for both of us to get a draw

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 17, 2023, 04:20:37 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 04:16:38 PM

Man why are you still subscribing to DSTV? I boycotted that scam company early this year.

They're f**king irritants, but the stupid goverment have placed us in a position to keep getting exploited by every stupid company including telecommunications and data providers, now my premium subscription is over N30,000 that's ~ the minimum wage of the country per month!

Minimum wage= 1 month subscription= bloody hell.

Why are they offering PAUW ( pay as you watch) to other west African countries but not in Nigeria. Man you're still enriching this evil agenda. Boycott now!!!!

If the Poland game ends in draw then I'm headed to another potential draw round Sad

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Quote from: slackovic on November 17, 2023, 03:42:14 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on November 17, 2023, 03:39:23 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 03:19:21 PM

Any good free tennis streaming platform? My source only stream selected fixtures.

If you're trying to watch the game between Zverev and Rublev for the sake of your picks, the standings are final already, It's Alcaraz, Medvedev, Sinner and Djokovic. If are just interested in watch the match up for the sake of entertaining yourself then google search will give you some tennis streaming site, the sites often changes, that's why you'd need to check through google every few days, but I'm catching it live on TennisHD channel 214 on DSTv.

/snip

But the question is also about the winner of the tournament, not just who will the semi finalists be. For me I don't care because I already got that point. But it's also the only point I got so I'm keeping my eyes on Poland-Czech game.

I would have been keeping tabs on that game too, but there aren't just any much difference between my answers and that of jeremypwr, but he's got the first edge over me, and all I can do now is just hope! or the better still restrategise and cheer my team up ahead of the next though game, although my team are still very much motivated to get a comeback here!

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 04:16:38 PM

Man why are you still subscribing to DSTV? I boycotted that scam company early this year.

They're f**king irritants, but the stupid goverment have placed us in a position to keep getting exploited by every stupid company including telecommunications and data providers, now my premium subscription is over N30,000 that's ~ the minimum wage of the country per month!

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 17, 2023, 03:39:23 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 03:19:21 PM

Any good free tennis streaming platform? My source only stream selected fixtures.

If you're trying to watch the game between Zverev and Rublev for the sake of your picks, the standings are final already, It's Alcaraz, Medvedev, Sinner and Djokovic. If are just interested in watch the match up for the sake of entertaining yourself then google search will give you some tennis streaming site, the sites often changes, that's why you'd need to check through google every few days, but I'm catching it live on TennisHD channel 214 on DSTv.

I was getting tired of international games, and I'm convinced the Sweden game was fixed! I stopped watching Euro qualifiers and since I've been spending more on tennis lately and my source only shows finals or top seeded games. I wanted to watch the Zverev-Rulev game because I left some mBTC on it.

If that is the Semi-Finals stand, then I and my opponent have the same number of semi-finalists. I picked Djokovic to win the trophy, but I have no idea who my opponent chose. (View On mobile).

Man why are you still subscribing to DSTV? I boycotted that scam company early this year.

Czech republic scores!!! 1-1. One more guys.

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 17, 2023, 03:39:23 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 03:19:21 PM

Any good free tennis streaming platform? My source only stream selected fixtures.

If you're trying to watch the game between Zverev and Rublev for the sake of your picks, the standings are final already, It's Alcaraz, Medvedev, Sinner and Djokovic. If are just interested in watch the match up for the sake of entertaining yourself then google search will give you some tennis streaming site, the sites often changes, that's why you'd need to check through google every few days, but I'm catching it live on TennisHD channel 214 on DSTv.

/snip

But the question is also about the winner of the tournament, not just who will the semi finalists be. For me I don't care because I already got that point. But it's also the only point I got so I'm keeping my eyes on Poland-Czech game.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 17, 2023, 03:19:21 PM

Any good free tennis streaming platform? My source only stream selected fixtures.

If you're trying to watch the game between Zverev and Rublev for the sake of your picks, the standings are final already, It's Alcaraz, Medvedev, Sinner and Djokovic. If are just interested in watch the match up for the sake of entertaining yourself then google search will give you some tennis streaming site, the sites often changes, that's why you'd need to check through google every few days, but I'm catching it live on TennisHD channel 214 on DSTv.

It's a draw between myself and jeremypwr, but Brazil and Columbia have put me at a disadvantage with their under 4.5 yellow cards, now I'll be needing Belgium to score more than 2 goals without Lukaku on the scoresheet to get back on level terms for the round.

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