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It was a horrible goal to concede. We usually stand really deep when defending such situations - and it quite often ends up with chances for the other teams.

We did enough to win yesterday - the group looks easy enough but now we can't afford any more mistakes. Turkey was horrible in recent teams but has a football tradition and needs to be taken seriously.
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trofo what happened? you guys were in control and i switch off TV only to come back to see and equalizer!!!! whose fault was it?  Huh


They were in total control but couldn't get another, It was only right they didn't get to win the game, 8 freaking shots on goal, I'm sure you'd have given up hope, If they were already 3 goals, but I like how heart breaking, it turned out to be Grin


Harkorede  you got away with this one yet again, I'm just fucking unlucky- i will catch you tomorrow.

Maybe, I'm lucky, maybe I'm not... One thing is, I think I'm your nemesis, Now catch me, If you can ☺️
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That last-minute goal from Wales was so unfortunate and the Norway question would've been my only point for today if it wasn't voided.

I'm likely back to the relegation zone since my fourth loss will be on the way after the last question later today and advance congrats to mitchr4 for the well-fought win.  Wink
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Another 101 reasons why I will never put my money on UEFA qualifiers and national league games: nothing is guaranteed, players do not make the team when needed, weaker teams cooking at death end, and managers making the wrong decisions = in one sentence "its fucking UNPREDICTABLE HELL".


In this case 1000% agree with you man, i really hate the internationals breaks for that, its so much unpredictable plus for example when you think a team its in a good fit from window to window of matches they can go from hell to sky and viceversa.

Handicap? take away that shit in this games, for example look today Romania only 2-0 against Andorra, or Norway making a really good game against Spain but in only two minutes pass from a 1-0 to a liar 3-0.

Croatia dominating the whole game and in the end the win drip trought their fingers.
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it's all right. I think it was fair that it was voided 😁

Omg what happened to Croatia? They were in full control the whole time then suddenly wales scored in 90+3 min!!

@arallmuus 90+3 min has become your curse this round 😂😂

So there goes my chance to win and the best case scenario would be another draw for me. Denmark scored another goal on 90+3' that cost me a point and now Wales did the same to me so yeah Im pretty unlucky  Smiley

Now I need either Malta, Luxembourg and San Marino to score a single draw to get me the last point. Well this could have been worse for me if the Italy vs England question wasnt voided then you would have won by now !
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Another 101 reasons why I will never put my money on UEFA qualifiers and national league games: nothing is guaranteed, players do not make the team when needed, weaker teams cooking at death end, and managers making the wrong decisions = in one sentence "its fucking UNPREDICTABLE HELL".

Harkorede  you got away with this one yet again, I'm just fucking unlucky- i will catch you tomorrow.

 
trofo what happened? you guys were in control and i switch off TV only to come back to see and equalizer!!!! whose fault was it?  Huh

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Where are the Croatia fans? whats happening in the camp? are they going to cause another Denmark upset  Grin
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English FA has Italy at 58% possession, so do Sky Sports, ESPN, Transfermarkt - all of them extremely reputable. Rewatching the game both of us feel that Italy did dominate possession - but cannot be sure.

Damn that means flashscore's stats are bullshit all these times? Anyway kudos to you guys to make this decision, I dont even know that it is possible to have different statistics from what is shown on site like flashscore and such. Some guys really pay attention to this, I would have only wait till my answers being graded on the sheet lol

@slissy : I think I got lucky with this question getting voided, you got Italy to win on the possession so that would have been extra point for you  Smiley

it's all right. I think it was fair that it was voided 😁

Omg what happened to Croatia? They were in full control the whole time then suddenly wales scored in 90+3 min!!

@arallmuus 90+3 min has become your curse this round 😂😂

Right I know what a collapse Grin Grin
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English FA has Italy at 58% possession, so do Sky Sports, ESPN, Transfermarkt - all of them extremely reputable. Rewatching the game both of us feel that Italy did dominate possession - but cannot be sure.

Damn that means flashscore's stats are bullshit all these times? Anyway kudos to you guys to make this decision, I dont even know that it is possible to have different statistics from what is shown on site like flashscore and such. Some guys really pay attention to this, I would have only wait till my answers being graded on the sheet lol

@slissy : I think I got lucky with this question getting voided, you got Italy to win on the possession so that would have been extra point for you  Smiley

it's all right. I think it was fair that it was voided 😁

Omg what happened to Croatia? They were in full control the whole time then suddenly wales scored in 90+3 min!!

@arallmuus 90+3 min has become your curse this round 😂😂
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Wow! Both of you really rewatched the entire game just to see which team had more possession? I don't think that anyone here expected this from you but it just shows how much effort you put into making this competition great and just for everyone participating. Great job guys!
Well!  Technically they applied the var to that question.  Smiley

I think the commited in this case, shows how serious this league is, and how much work there is to make it possible, so maybe we're on the easier side of the process.



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It would be great to avoid these mistakes in the future by providing questions for the competition in the required format, so I suggest if it is possible to provide backup questions that will be counted in case there is an invalid game. What do you think?

It isn't really a mistake, more of a misunderstanding of a sentence. Still - we'll make sure to avoid such things.
We feel it's better to give some context with the question - especially when something interesting is happening. We will continue to do that, we'll just do it better Grin


Ah, misunderstandings happen to the best of us. But it's great to hear that you're taking steps to avoid them in the future! And providing context with your questions is always a good idea, especially if there's something interesting going on Angry
The worst round I've had in the competition was when I only got one correct answer, so congratulations to Joker. This usually happens when I just rely on guesswork without doing even a quick search. Grin
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English FA has Italy at 58% possession, so do Sky Sports, ESPN, Transfermarkt - all of them extremely reputable. Rewatching the game both of us feel that Italy did dominate possession - but cannot be sure.

Damn that means flashscore's stats are bullshit all these times? Anyway kudos to you guys to make this decision, I dont even know that it is possible to have different statistics from what is shown on site like flashscore and such. Some guys really pay attention to this, I would have only wait till my answers being graded on the sheet lol

@slissy : I think I got lucky with this question getting voided, you got Italy to win on the possession so that would have been extra point for you  Smiley
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I'd personally love to see it. However, it will depend on the participants consensus.
So far only a few logos have been created, and in formats that cannot be implemented.
Maybe you could add additional question in next round and ask everyone if they want to add custom logos for everyone.
This could be something simply generated, made by designer or made by participant itself.
I know few designers in forum and maybe they will be interested to help us, this is one more way of promoting BSFL Smiley

What did you expect when facing one of the luckiest bastards in the competition? Grin I know that I'll probably regret saying this but I just can't help myself Smiley I'm leading 3-2 with 3 answers remaining that we answered differently. So there is still chance for you to beat me.
Luck can change easily, but I think something changed in the table from last time I checked maybe because Italy England match  Grin






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Announcement regarding Question 4

Fellas, it is simply impossible to make a good decision regarding the possession statistics question.

We already said who's statistics we'll be using (UEFA official) - but the problem is that in this case it is obviously incorrect. It seems that at some point they simply stopped counting passes and calculating possession properly.
It is really not something we could have foreseen, but it is something that we need to address at this point.

English FA has Italy at 58% possession, so do Sky Sports, ESPN, Transfermarkt - all of them extremely reputable. Rewatching the game both of us feel that Italy did dominate possession - but cannot be sure.

We feel it is best that we void the question - whatever we decide will cause harm to somebody but voiding it completely will bring the least harm possible.
The logic behind this decision is that we cannot use data from UEFA - and that's the source we announced we'll use - making all other sources invalid.

We are sorry for those influenced by this decision - but this one was really out of our hands.

If we are not going to stick with the official website stats and other well known sources then this could be a problem for the rest of the UEFA games.

We will be using UEFA - hoping that they don't make such mistakes in the future.
What we will do is avoid the possession questions for a while - everything else can be verified by rewatching the game.

Wow! Both of you really rewatched the entire game just to see which team had more possession? I don't think that anyone here expected this from you but it just shows how much effort you put into making this competition great and just for everyone participating. Great job guys!
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Announcement regarding Question 4

Fellas, it is simply impossible to make a good decision regarding the possession statistics question.

We already said who's statistics we'll be using (UEFA official) - but the problem is that in this case it is obviously incorrect. It seems that at some point they simply stopped counting passes and calculating possession properly.
It is really not something we could have foreseen, but it is something that we need to address at this point.

English FA has Italy at 58% possession, so do Sky Sports, ESPN, Transfermarkt - all of them extremely reputable. Rewatching the game both of us feel that Italy did dominate possession - but cannot be sure.

We feel it is best that we void the question - whatever we decide will cause harm to somebody but voiding it completely will bring the least harm possible.
The logic behind this decision is that we cannot use data from UEFA - and that's the source we announced we'll use - making all other sources invalid.

We are sorry for those influenced by this decision - but this one was really out of our hands.

If we are not going to stick with the official website stats and other well known sources then this could be a problem for the rest of the UEFA games.

We will be using UEFA - hoping that they don't make such mistakes in the future.
What we will do is avoid the possession questions for a while - everything else can be verified by rewatching the game.
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Hi to all, i dont know why the data collect from UEFA and other pages in this game was so wrong and only corresponds for the first half you can check easily by the ammount of passes.

The ammount of passes are very similar whit the first half one from the other pages of stats. (Sofascore, Google)

A normal game have between 700-1200 passes and this game between two TOP national teams has only 450? ITs obviusly wrong. Its like a game ends 5-0 and  in shoot on Target we have 1 shoot on target and no owngoals, this its clearly wrong.

Im not the guy who always checked this but when i come to the thread, and you (igehh) shared the link with the stats of UEFA and see it, i said to myself wait a minute this its impossible, if i see the game (because i bet in it, in live) and also say to myself i put England to win possesion lets check how the question was, and when i recheck with sofascore and Google see they have a more real percentage.

Anyways realy thanks to Trofo and Cryptofrka to take this so seriously and recheck all also to take the time to re-watch the game that was so much. And im not gonna blame anyone for the decission you finally took no matter what decission is, because its a shit situation what happen ,and its 1 in a million one this happen.

For all of those who thinks this its impossible i have one history to you, a lot of years ago it happen to me a game have 8 corners and the stats collected only 7 i rewatch the game and cut and send the video to the page showing they were 8 corners, and they finally give me the money.

And igehh its not problem i also like the spicy play hahaha so i check it where division you are to make a derby, but i see you are in first division, i hope to rank up and play against you, you are not so chicken to go to second division ok?

Spoiler: The history ended with me not achieving the promotion XD.
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Anyway to avoid any 'confusion' like this in the future, probably we should settle on using specific website for the statistics of the questions? Probably settle on two trustworthy site like flashscore and livescore

We settled for the Uefa's one - which should be the most trustworthy.
We're now checking if they potentially made some mistakes.

The current result doesn't favor me, but since it's a UEFA competition their results should be the final and the most legitimate one to consider, It's just like the FPL issue we had a few weeks back with a Solly March goal, if we had organized the fantasy manually, we pro ably would have had to change the result, right ? but it's still the FPL decision that mattered, so incase of irregularities like this, you should stick to the organizers of the event.
I don't agree with this since this isn't really a situation open to interpretation. If the difference between UEFA and everybody else was 1% or maybe 2% we would of course take UEFA one as legit and there would be no discussion. 10% difference is way too much and somebody made a mistake, we will never accept consciously plain wrong result just because somebody wrote it. Common sense must prevail.

Other from the sofascore, what other sources had different stats? The 10% is only on sofascore; this is an open investigation, it would be easier if you provided your source so that we could also look at it. I've looked at the Top 20 google rated scores websites and they are all the same, and the well-known ones that we are all familiar with match up nicely with the one on the UEFA website.

Those who placed bets on bookmakers that England will have the most possession (51) have already won since 24hrs ago.

If we are not going to stick with the official website stats and other well known sources then this could be a problem for the rest of the UEFA games.

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Where are the Croatia fans? whats happening in the camp? are they going to cause another Denmark upset  Grin
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I'm getting the feeling that this place is being very tight with everyone.
Almost all of us are getting it right and failing the same number of times. We are very much tied or winning by a minimal difference. The last questions of the rounds will be decisive, but for many, the final result will probably be a tie, if both choose the same things.

This week dedicated to selections, things are more balanced. We will see the final result between everyone, but I would say that we will have a lot of draws.
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CLS63 you won this one. Final question goes to me it's still 2-1. What a miserable outcome, but I'm glad I lost to you thanks to KdB being the non-factor. I know we still got that England game to decide, but I believe the best outcome is a draw for me, you did pick Italy anyway!

Dutch, my bad for believing in them. Gakpo and others missing is no excuse for Oranjes.

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Can't believe Netherlands failed to convert from the spot last night which was the only goal most of us were looking for and it was pretty much the last action of the day and Depay couldn't get the job done,am having my doubts in this team if they will proceed..

And looking at this week's spreadsheet and all its red paint, clearly this could be easily one of the toughest ones we have had so far and can't imagine what the future holds now Roll Eyes
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Anyway to avoid any 'confusion' like this in the future, probably we should settle on using specific website for the statistics of the questions? Probably settle on two trustworthy site like flashscore and livescore

We settled for the Uefa's one - which should be the most trustworthy.
We're now checking if they potentially made some mistakes.

The current result doesn't favor me, but since it's a UEFA competition their results should be the final and the most legitimate one to consider, It's just like the FPL issue we had a few weeks back with a Solly March goal, if we had organized the fantasy manually, we pro ably would have had to change the result, right ? but it's still the FPL decision that mattered, so incase of irregularities like this, you should stick to the organizers of the event.
I don't agree with this since this isn't really a situation open to interpretation. If the difference between UEFA and everybody else was 1% or maybe 2% we would of course take UEFA one as legit and there would be no discussion. 10% difference is way too much and somebody made a mistake, we will never accept consciously plain wrong result just because somebody wrote it. Common sense must prevail.

If we had March goal in our question he would have got it awarded after official PL awarded it to him. Problem is Fantasy PL would only take that change into their game if it is made up to 1 hour after the game. Plain stupid if you ask me. We have until the week deadline to settle this situation in most fair way, after that it will be final and I am sure some of you will not be happy which ever way we decide.
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