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@cryptofrka Sorry in advance as I am newbie and have no enough information still trying to learn all about this.

Want to ask what is this buy-in fee for Division 1 and 2 with in next season for the Division 3 as well.

I was trying to understand but fail hopefully you will clear all confusion about these thanks in advance.

Hey there, just ask whatever you need.
We define the buy-in fees at the start of each season. So far it was paid by Division 1 and Division 2 participants, but from next season it will have to be paid by Division 3 participants as well.

Considering that you are a new player, you have to start from the lowest Division - which will be Division 4 next Season - and for you there will not be a buy-in fee.

If you want to jump Divisions, we will introduce an option to buy clubs at the end of this season - but you will have to find a player willing to sell.
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@cryptofrka Sorry in advance as I am newbie and have no enough information still trying to learn all about this.

Want to ask what is this buy-in fee for Division 1 and 2 with in next season for the Division 3 as well.

I was trying to understand but fail hopefully you will clear all confusion about these thanks in advance.

The buy-in fee is the participation fee which every player pays to compete for the season, for the current season only Division 1 and 2 paid to participate, the division was free to join/play and that is going to change next season, however I think there will be a new division which will be free to play still.


Elimination rule doesn't seem to strict imo, and I'm sure not a lot of people would feel otherwise, even those who got the hammer. The outcome and how it upsets the standings is what I think it more alarming and concerning especially when the season has almost ended like the current, perhaps you should look into the possibility of letting previous results stand after certain number of rounds have been played.

That would be unfair to those that lost to the guy.
Imagine that you and me are tied for the title, you played against that guy and lost and I'm about to play him in the last round.

I get a free pass and win the title, which is a horrible outcome.

I completely understand, there is no easy that wouldn't affect some people over the other, if the whole result becomes null and avoid they same thing could If had a 1-2 point lead over a player who had lost to the said person, while I did lose against him. I'm only in for taking every potential position in the league with the same importance, so I find it better to alter 12 results for the sake of 3.

I'm sure you guys always review these rules and arrive at some fair ground with these decisions making which I more often than not always agree with.
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@cryptofrka Sorry in advance as I am newbie and have no enough information still trying to learn all about this.

Want to ask what is this buy-in fee for Division 1 and 2 with in next season for the Division 3 as well.

I was trying to understand but fail hopefully you will clear all confusion about these thanks in advance.
legendary
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Elimination rule doesn't seem to strict imo, and I'm sure not a lot of people would feel otherwise, even those who got the hammer. The outcome and how it upsets the standings is what I think it more alarming and concerning especially when the season has almost ended like the current, perhaps you should look into the possibility of letting previous results stand after certain number of rounds have been played.

That would be unfair to those that lost to the guy.
Imagine that you and me are tied for the title, you played against that guy and lost and I'm about to play him in the last round.

I get a free pass and win the title, which is a horrible outcome.

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As said, we don't feel it will still be an issue in Season 6. Div3 will have some prizes for almost all places, so there will be more reason to submit.
It will still happen in Div4 - but whatever we do it will remain a problem in the lowest league that rewards only freebets.
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Therefore we don't really feel that the elimination rule is too strict - but it is a shame when we do lose a player.

Elimination rule doesn't seem to strict imo, and I'm sure not a lot of people would feel otherwise, even those who got the hammer. The outcome and how it upsets the standings is what I think it more alarming and concerning especially when the season has almost ended like the current, perhaps you should look into the possibility of letting previous results stand after certain number of rounds have been played.
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Oh I forgot we are gonna have division 4 next season, I guess this is like nonleague football, where you can compete to be part of the league, or what comparison can we play from here Smiley

So does this mean no more 3A and 3B and just division 3?

Yup, no more Div 3A and Div3B, but a single Division 3 with buy-in fee and better rewards. Div4 will be the real amateur league now - it will be without buyins and will be played for freebets.

We are here to be "punished" or to bet... how many here actually do the process... that is,  they go check the odds and bet, there is a wager issue that needs to be considered in this league somehow, and remove that "nonsense" of eliminating players...

Each division should have the "VAR" of wager for negative points, and that's it, you want to get rid of the negative points, 1000$* of wager for each point... eliminating players should not be the objective... the process is lost, well for those of us who really do it...

What just happened in the division 3A is absolutely inappropriate  Embarrassed

I do agree that elimination is the last step - the 'problem' with BSFL is that it is H2H so it is a problem when people forget to submit.
That means that it is better to have less committed players than a lot but ones that are not really committed.

We are trying to solve this problem season after season, where the rewards are low people will naturally forget or be lazy to do it. As BSFL grows, it will be 'professional' for more and more people - we believe that Division 3 in Season 6 will be a lot more serious than Divisions 3A and 3B are currently.

We tried to find the best solution for things like these, but if you miss 3 out of 15 games you simply can't be a part of a H2H competition - because it ruins the experience for everyone else.

There is also no way people would pay any penalties in lower leagues. Maybe club selling will now make some of them step up a league or two - we will see.

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In competitions like these changes have to be slow - because we cannot change the rules mid-season. In 5 years we haven't really lost a lot of players, and we lost only one (casperBGD) in the leagues that have a buy-in fee. Therefore we don't really feel that the elimination rule is too strict - but it is a shame when we do lose a player.
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The penalties are strict enough as it is, I do not think there is a way to completely eliminate situations like this.

- Jay -

We are here to be "punished" or to bet... how many here actually do the process... that is,  they go check the odds and bet, there is a wager issue that needs to be considered in this league somehow, and remove that "nonsense" of eliminating players...

Each division should have the "VAR" of wager for negative points, and that's it, you want to get rid of the negative points, 1000$* of wager for each point... eliminating players should not be the objective... the process is lost, well for those of us who really do it...

What just happened in the division 3A is absolutely inappropriate  Embarrassed




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Oh I forgot we are gonna have division 4 next season, I guess this is like nonleague football, where you can compete to be part of the league, or what comparison can we play from here Smiley

So does this mean no more 3A and 3B and just division 3?

Come on dittoup, don't let hossein win everything!!
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I was reading the articles Trofo shared. He wrote that I relegated even though I was still in Division 3. I hope it is just a joke. Cheesy Is there going to be a Division 4 next season or are the most unsuccessful players kicked from BSFL? Sad
What arallmuus said but let's make it official if someone still isn't up to speed.

Only players that are kicked from BSFL are those that don't submit on time.

As we are getting more and more players, we are expending the leagues. First we were raising the number of teams in Divisions and now the time came to add another Division.

Division 4 will be what Division 3 was until now and Division 3 will have to pay fee to play but rewards will be better. More like div1 and div2.

Since we have fixed spaces in top 3 division from now on, last 4 teams from div3 are relgated to Div4 where they will be joined by all new players.
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Selby currently leading 4.2 against Guodong so he'll probably win and remain England's only hope for the win.
Selby lost his quarter-final match against the chinese player 6-5.
So, no english player reached the semi-finals of 2024 champion of champions and question number 8 is now settled. I am now leading against Dittoup 3-2.
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I know BTC wasn't at these levels but looking at the prizes in the rear view mirror, that looks very nice  Grin
Crazy amount of money is smiling to someone who wins LMS  Shocked
No need to thank me again for being one of the top sponsors, but I always accept donations  Wink

How is everyone doing in Cup? No big surprises and shocks?
Igebotz juniors are not doing bad I see.
legendary
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I was reading the articles Trofo shared. He wrote that I relegated even though I was still in Division 3. I hope it is just a joke. Cheesy Is there going to be a Division 4 next season

Bottom 4 from division 3A and 3B will start on division 4 next season. 11th place in division 3B has 16 points by now and you have 6 points, so technically with only 2 more games to go, you wont be getting enough point to be safe from the relegation zone

For picture reference of how the promotion / relegation works in each division, its in the OP

or are the most unsuccessful players kicked from BSFL? Sad

Well you are just unlucky this season and plenty of chances to climb back up on the next one  Smiley
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I was reading the articles Trofo shared. He wrote that I relegated even though I was still in Division 3. I hope it is just a joke. Cheesy Is there going to be a Division 4 next season or are the most unsuccessful players kicked from BSFL? Sad
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Damn, bloodbath in snooker. Ronnie lost to Guodong, Wilson to Williams and the most unexpected one - Trump to Robertson.
Selby currently leading 4.2 against Guodong so he'll probably win and remain England's only hope for the win.

In darts it looks a little bit better - but that sport looks like one huge cointoss to me.

England is the most important game for me, currently going just the way I need it. Gonna hedge on BTTS - the odds are now 3.40. Either I win the bet or I am really close to winning my sidebet.
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Nice going on the logo, Harko! And nice haul over four seasons, damn! Fellow OG but doing much better than me now, I hope to retain this ever-dwindling status but you know, even if I relegate, it will be deserved, so can't complain.

Yeah, the numbers were crazy honestly, and frankly they still are! those were really good times when there was at least not looking too far up to see who’s at the top of the table, I hope I get my mojo back real soon, though!

Rivals: BSFL is like the Game of Thrones, "everyone" else is the enemy...

I like the GOT reference here.

To add another reference to BSFL and LMS, "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground."

Yep There is no spotlight when you stay at the middle ground here. You either win the league or relegated from it to get a spotlight.  Smiley

I’m sure we have some teams that would easily depict the household names if BSFL were to be the real show, you sure know that mafia(s) would be the combination of house Targaryen and Lannister, buwaytress would be better as house Baratheon, but they to win the title first to fit the character, Igebotz as house Stark, from being influential to start then falling from grace, now parading themselves as king in the north (div. 3) to savage whatever they could of their ego.

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Nice going on the logo, Harko! And nice haul over four seasons, damn! Fellow OG but doing much better than me now, I hope to retain this ever-dwindling status but you know, even if I relegate, it will be deserved, so can't complain.

The rest of you, get them going too, we want to see clubs going head to head with their crests -- and it's good to have that profile with history too. I just saw mine was only updated to S04 start, I'll edit it a little after the end of S05 to admit to how shit I've become.
legendary
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Rivals: BSFL is like the Game of Thrones, "everyone" else is the enemy...

I like the GOT reference here.

To add another reference to BSFL and LMS, "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground."

Yep There is no spotlight when you stay at the middle ground here. You either win the league or relegated from it to get a spotlight.  Smiley

Advantage of being in top division, I've not won anything close to the two seasons I spent in division 1 since I left. Bro bagging almost 90mBTC in 4 seasons is crazy number. I'm so jealous.

Actually around 75+mbtc but soon to be 80mbtc when season 5 ends. Pretty good number huh over the span of less than 2 years...
Sportsbet has given alot to the BSFL community
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Like I needed any more ill-luck, that just brought me even closer to relegation making my current fixture more of a must win match than it already was if I am to stand any chance at all of staying up.

That is also the reason why we must have strong penalties to minimise chances of this happening.
The penalties are strict enough as it is, I do not think there is a way to completely eliminate situations like this.

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Lots of work still to do but Muhahahahaha.
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