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Quote from: Trofo on June 09, 2024, 04:24:02 AM

Time is running out for LMS, join if you didn't already, first bunch of questions will drop tomorrow.

Has there been any more explanation on how the games will work? I voted "no" to not knowing enough about the format in the form and I hope I was not the only one.

Whichever way it goes, I will expect to learn more as the tasks come.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 09, 2024, 04:24:02 AM

Time is running out for LMS, join if you didn't already, first bunch of questions will drop tomorrow.

Perfect, I was just thinking to come into the thread and ask when the first questions drop.

Bring it on, guys.

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Quote from: notblox1 on June 08, 2024, 04:39:10 PM

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I'm speaking more long-term. Spain was the best in the world, all of the top clubs were looking for Italian players not so long ago and Croatia was everybody's dark horse with our midfield trio.

Ranking is going up for Croatia after winning against Portugal today Grin

This was juicy odds for Croatia win and I love that nobody is considering them for top places in this EURO, they are the best underdog team ever.
Only 5 days left until the start of EURO 2024, and we are going to see how far they can go in this competition.

We were really good yesterday and I was surprised that our manager let our full backs play as attacking as they were in their clubs. Gvardiol and Stanišić had great seasons and you can see on them how confident they are going forward. I expected that against easier opposition like Albania but if we are brave enough to do it even in stronger games. Maybe there is a chance for another big result.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 08, 2024, 02:34:36 PM

I'm speaking more long-term. Spain was the best in the world, all of the top clubs were looking for Italian players not so long ago and Croatia was everybody's dark horse with our midfield trio.

Ranking is going up for Croatia after winning against Portugal today Grin

This was juicy odds for Croatia win and I love that nobody is considering them for top places in this EURO, they are the best underdog team ever.
Only 5 days left until the start of EURO 2024, and we are going to see how far they can go in this competition.

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Quote from: notblox1 on June 07, 2024, 04:06:30 PM

Downtrend how?

I'm speaking more long-term. Spain was the best in the world, all of the top clubs were looking for Italian players not so long ago and Croatia was everybody's dark horse with our midfield trio.
Spain is now far from the best, Italy has 30 decent players to pick from but no gamechangers and Croatia's midfield trio lacks the legs to repeat the success of the previous tournaments.

They are still really good teams, don't get me wrong. It's just my opinion that both Italy and Spain were a lot stronger 4 years ago.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 07, 2024, 02:59:49 AM

Then again, all these teams are in a downward trajectory.

Downtrend how?
I checked UEFA rankings and Spain is 6th, Croatia is 7th and Italy 8th place in the list, and they all improved from previous ranking places.

Quote from: Trofo on June 07, 2024, 01:23:32 PM

Option to pass from 3rd spot definitely takes away something from "death group". As you say, if Albania ends on 0 points all three of us should pass trough and anything can happen in knockout stages. Real tournament starts after the groups this time. I wonder is some teams with long bench (England, France) will rotate a bit more in groups.

Teams will rotate depending on results in first round, but things dont always go according to plan in big competitions.
Some players are tired from long season in clubs, so I expect to see big surprises in first few rounds.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 07, 2024, 01:23:32 PM

As you say, if Albania ends on 0 points all three of us should pass trough and anything can happen in knockout stages.

True, but if we end up 3rd we might get harder opponents as in that case we will play against winners of the groups E or F, meaning probably Belgium and Portugal. I personally woulnd't mind Belgium but I would like to avoid Portugal as long as possible, given our terrible score vs them.

Then again, ending up 1st would mean we play vs 3rd team from one of the four groups and 2nd would mean we play against the 2nd placed team of group A. So yeah, I hope for one of the top 2 spots in the group.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 07, 2024, 01:08:19 PM

Even favorites score 75-80% of points on average. At a distance of 3 games, the value of the third game is 30% and the possibility that after two rounds the position in the group is already completely determined is very rare.

I do not think it is rare and have not done any actual research on it, so we will leave it at that. It even does not matter if there is "group of death" but I am expecting a very exciting group stage.

Why was there any of the rancor with the dropping of Grealish from the 26' man squad. The forwards available for Southgate are very talented and competition is very tight for a spot. I think he may have just edged Ivan Tooney but it could fall either way with how both were out of resular football for a huge patch of last season.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 07, 2024, 02:59:49 AM

That's why I feel that the 'Group of Death' isn't really that.
You have Albania as the 4th team, and anybody with 3 points should be safe to go through as a 3rd team from the group.

When you see teams like Spain, Italy and Croatia grouped together, it might seem so - but in this format I think all 3 teams are going through.

Then again, all these teams are in a downward trajectory.

Option to pass from 3rd spot definitely takes away something from "death group". As you say, if Albania ends on 0 points all three of us should pass trough and anything can happen in knockout stages. Real tournament starts after the groups this time. I wonder is some teams with long bench (England, France) will rotate a bit more in groups.

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In general, when in almost every group 3 teams move on at once, it is quite difficult to find a group of death or a group where there will be an interesting fight.

It may make the group stages competitive from the beginning to the end. Usually after the first 2 games, teams that will drop have already been decided and the last game will have one or two teams not giving their all. With the knowledge that you can be the best loser teams will keep fighting till the very end of tournament for a shot at qualifying.

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This is an optimistic view of the existing format, but it seems to me that it is incorrect since this is not a round-robin tournament and things are not going at all the way we are used to watching the Champions League.
Even favorites score 75-80% of points on average. At a distance of 3 games, the value of the third game is 30% and the possibility that after two rounds the position in the group is already completely determined is very rare.

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Poor Albania lol. I wonder who's considered the weakest team here, I see 500x odds for 3 teams but surely one of them can be considered the weakest and a big upset if they go through the playoffs?

I personally think Croatia is the favorite of all the '3rd place' teams and that's a STRONG favorite. They may secretly like being 3rd to meet a big seed rightaway after group

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That's why I feel that the 'Group of Death' isn't really that.
You have Albania as the 4th team, and anybody with 3 points should be safe to go through as a 3rd team from the group.

When you see teams like Spain, Italy and Croatia grouped together, it might seem so - but in this format I think all 3 teams are going through.

Then again, all these teams are in a downward trajectory.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 06, 2024, 05:05:35 AM

In general, when in almost every group 3 teams move on at once, it is quite difficult to find a group of death or a group where there will be an interesting fight.

It may make the group stages competitive from the beginning to the end. Usually after the first 2 games, teams that will drop have already been decided and the last game will have one or two teams not giving their all. With the knowledge that you can be the best loser teams will keep fighting till the very end of tournament for a shot at qualifying.

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I'm really looking forward to our friendly vs Portugal. Will be a great last test for the difficult group we're in.

I think Croatia have good chance of going in next stage, there is a chance to go as second or maybe as third team in the group.
And match with Spain is going to be more interesting for you, maybe you see Joselu in action again Grin

I just checked the early odds on Croatia and they look interesting to me for asian handicap bet.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international/european-championship/spain-v-croatia-661fc832aafd2b0001bf2357

A win and a good goal differential will likely be good enough for a team to advance to the next stage, given the fact that there going to be opportunities for 4 out 6 3rd placed teams to advance to to the next round, technically each underdog team's first job is not to finish at the both of the table, because if at least 2 teams finish the group stage with 1 or less point (which is very possible), any 3rd placed team with 3 points will likely advance.

And I think Spain are one of the most overrated teams for this competition, I could be wrong though, I just can't seem to find anything special about them other than future talents.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 06, 2024, 03:14:33 AM

I'm really looking forward to our friendly vs Portugal. Will be a great last test for the difficult group we're in.

I think Croatia have good chance of going in next stage, there is a chance to go as second or maybe as third team in the group.
And match with Spain is going to be more interesting for you, maybe you see Joselu in action again Grin

I just checked the early odds on Croatia and they look interesting to me for asian handicap bet.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international/european-championship/spain-v-croatia-661fc832aafd2b0001bf2357

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 02, 2024, 05:11:17 AM

I'm wondering if it's worth betting on the group stage at all? Taking into account the fact that there are 6 groups and in 4 groups out of 6, 3 teams will make it to the playoffs. The group stage will be similar to a warm-up and friendly games, it seems to me that here it is better to pass by or bet on a double chance on the outsider, and BTTS. What do you think?

The group stages will present fewer surprises that the knockouts. Teams are more unevenly paired up so it is easier to pick the outcome, I would not favor BTTS either, not at the very early stages of the groups.

When we get to the knockouts, everyone is believing now, those that won the play-offs may get a second wind and turn up for the tournament. It is almost anyone's game at that point.

Everyone agrees Group D is the group of death right?

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In Group D, either Poland or Austria will be eliminated, the remaining 3 teams will move on. In general, when in almost every group 3 teams move on at once, it is quite difficult to find a group of death or a group where there will be an interesting fight. I think only fans of weak countries are happy with this format, because with some luck Hungary/Slovakia/Romania, etc. may end up in the playoffs.

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Quote from: notblox1 on June 05, 2024, 04:10:47 PM

Real is just waiting for Espanyol to finish playoffs and than they can officially sign a deal with Joselu

Yep, they have a clause to get him for like 1,5 million. Not really sure whether they will keep him or just flip him to somebody else.
They brought Mbappe and are counting on Endrick from the start, so it's already 4 positions in offensive line covered. If Joselu stays, he'll probably get some minutes.

Morata will start for Spain, that's almost guaranteed. He's their captain as well.

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I'm really looking forward to our friendly vs Portugal. Will be a great last test for the difficult group we're in.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 01, 2024, 04:04:10 AM

Spain has been missing a proper striker for years now. It is difficult to go all the way without that killer up front who will score something from the first half chance. If you have to create 3-5 big chances for a goal you must be so much better than your opponents in every game and that is not possible on EURO.

Joselu is now here to save the Spanish national team like he saved Real.
Ideal scenario is to see him in EURO 2024 and his market value increases over 5 million Grin

Real is just waiting for Espanyol to finish playoffs and than they can officially sign a deal with Joselu, and he is included in 30 players for Spain but didnt play against Andorra today.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5536493/2024/06/03/real-madrid-transfers-joselu/

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The squad of 23 players, with Rodrigo and Dani Olmo rested and Laporte, Nacho, Carvajal and Joselu absent, are all hoping to travel to Germany and for the passionate Extremadura fans, whose enthusiastic welcome on Tuesday will be followed with the expected full house at the Badajoz stadium.

https://rfef.es/en/noticias/preview-spain-launches-into-continental-summer-of-football

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