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Topic: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election (Read 2580 times)

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I don't have any skin in the game but am curious what these sites who have already paid out would do if somehow Trump's lawyers worked some sort of legal magic to actually keep him in the white house.  I wonder if they would then pay out the other side of the bet or would even have the reserves left to do so.  Would they then confiscate all the BTC on their platform and disappear, or try to use future user fees to stay in business?  It would be interesting to watch for sure and if I held a lot of funds on some gambling site that had already paid out based on the election results, I would keep a watchful eye on the situation and consider withdrawing anything I couldn't afford to lose.

I'm not aware of any smaller books that are actually acting as 'the book'.  These days there are the giant established books, and then there are a few odds providers that run the back end of most crypto betting sites.  

I would expect the established books to take the hit and pay Trump bets.  If they didn't, it would do serious damage to their reputation. (Paddy power actually paid out Clinton bets a week or two before the 2016 election as a publicity stunt.  In the end they probably still made out ahead after the MSM ran with it and gave them tons of exposure)

For the rest I would expect the odds providers to take the hit, and if they ran off then you'd see some smaller books that don't have the cash or rep to protect fold up.  

I know Stake came out and said they were paying Biden bets out of pocket because their odds provider was planning on waiting till Jan and they didn't want all the money tied up for that long.  They were open about being on the hook if Trump does find a way to win.



@OgNasty a few days back this would have been a genuine concern for all the parties i.e. gamblers and sportsbook, but now Biden victory is official, and nothing can change it.

Furthermore even Republicans are accepting him as the president, which ends any speculation about Trump being able to reverse the election results, hence we don’t need to worry about this scenario.

Lastly even if we consider a hypothetical scenario any legit sportsbook would be foolish not to pay those people who wagered on Trump, because they would lose a lot of money in the long run as people would stop playing on their sites.

Sources:

https://apnews.com/article/electoral-college-confirm-joe-biden-win-2d4fd7368d8fd6cb47ff0b2cc206271a

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/16/trump-mcconnell-election-biden-president/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/technology/can-trump-still-win.html

Technically Congress still has the chance to object.  And a few will, and then they'll have to debate, and then as long as a Majority of both the house and senate don't agree with the objections then he will have the votes.

And then, technically, he won't be president until sworn in.

It's kind of like when a golfer wins a tournament.  He's still gotta sign the score card, and then he's still gotta do the ceremony, but the books want the money in the gamblers hands asap so they can gamble with it, so they aren't going to wait unless there's a good reason to.

Did people bet on who would be president in February 2021 or did they bet on who would win the election ? Because the election is over, and Biden has won that. The only thing that can happen now is some kind of coup, either by judges, the GOP, or by force. None of which are very likely.
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I don't have any skin in the game but am curious what these sites who have already paid out would do if somehow Trump's lawyers worked some sort of legal magic to actually keep him in the white house.  I wonder if they would then pay out the other side of the bet or would even have the reserves left to do so.  Would they then confiscate all the BTC on their platform and disappear, or try to use future user fees to stay in business?  It would be interesting to watch for sure and if I held a lot of funds on some gambling site that had already paid out based on the election results, I would keep a watchful eye on the situation and consider withdrawing anything I couldn't afford to lose.

I'm not aware of any smaller books that are actually acting as 'the book'.  These days there are the giant established books, and then there are a few odds providers that run the back end of most crypto betting sites.  

I would expect the established books to take the hit and pay Trump bets.  If they didn't, it would do serious damage to their reputation. (Paddy power actually paid out Clinton bets a week or two before the 2016 election as a publicity stunt.  In the end they probably still made out ahead after the MSM ran with it and gave them tons of exposure)

For the rest I would expect the odds providers to take the hit, and if they ran off then you'd see some smaller books that don't have the cash or rep to protect fold up.  

I know Stake came out and said they were paying Biden bets out of pocket because their odds provider was planning on waiting till Jan and they didn't want all the money tied up for that long.  They were open about being on the hook if Trump does find a way to win.



@OgNasty a few days back this would have been a genuine concern for all the parties i.e. gamblers and sportsbook, but now Biden victory is official, and nothing can change it.

Furthermore even Republicans are accepting him as the president, which ends any speculation about Trump being able to reverse the election results, hence we don’t need to worry about this scenario.

Lastly even if we consider a hypothetical scenario any legit sportsbook would be foolish not to pay those people who wagered on Trump, because they would lose a lot of money in the long run as people would stop playing on their sites.

Sources:

https://apnews.com/article/electoral-college-confirm-joe-biden-win-2d4fd7368d8fd6cb47ff0b2cc206271a

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/16/trump-mcconnell-election-biden-president/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/technology/can-trump-still-win.html

Technically Congress still has the chance to object.  And a few will, and then they'll have to debate, and then as long as a Majority of both the house and senate don't agree with the objections then he will have the votes.

And then, technically, he won't be president until sworn in.

It's kind of like when a golfer wins a tournament.  He's still gotta sign the score card, and then he's still gotta do the ceremony, but the books want the money in the gamblers hands asap so they can gamble with it, so they aren't going to wait unless there's a good reason to.
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I don't have any skin in the game but am curious what these sites who have already paid out would do if somehow Trump's lawyers worked some sort of legal magic to actually keep him in the white house.  I wonder if they would then pay out the other side of the bet or would even have the reserves left to do so.  Would they then confiscate all the BTC on their platform and disappear, or try to use future user fees to stay in business?  It would be interesting to watch for sure and if I held a lot of funds on some gambling site that had already paid out based on the election results, I would keep a watchful eye on the situation and consider withdrawing anything I couldn't afford to lose.

I'm not aware of any smaller books that are actually acting as 'the book'.  These days there are the giant established books, and then there are a few odds providers that run the back end of most crypto betting sites.  

I would expect the established books to take the hit and pay Trump bets.  If they didn't, it would do serious damage to their reputation. (Paddy power actually paid out Clinton bets a week or two before the 2016 election as a publicity stunt.  In the end they probably still made out ahead after the MSM ran with it and gave them tons of exposure)

For the rest I would expect the odds providers to take the hit, and if they ran off then you'd see some smaller books that don't have the cash or rep to protect fold up.  

I know Stake came out and said they were paying Biden bets out of pocket because their odds provider was planning on waiting till Jan and they didn't want all the money tied up for that long.  They were open about being on the hook if Trump does find a way to win.



@OgNasty a few days back this would have been a genuine concern for all the parties i.e. gamblers and sportsbook, but now Biden victory is official, and nothing can change it.

Furthermore even Republicans are accepting him as the president, which ends any speculation about Trump being able to reverse the election results, hence we don’t need to worry about this scenario.

Lastly even if we consider a hypothetical scenario any legit sportsbook would be foolish not to pay those people who wagered on Trump, because they would lose a lot of money in the long run as people would stop playing on their sites.

Sources:

https://apnews.com/article/electoral-college-confirm-joe-biden-win-2d4fd7368d8fd6cb47ff0b2cc206271a

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/16/trump-mcconnell-election-biden-president/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/technology/can-trump-still-win.html
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I don't have any skin in the game but am curious what these sites who have already paid out would do if somehow Trump's lawyers worked some sort of legal magic to actually keep him in the white house.  I wonder if they would then pay out the other side of the bet or would even have the reserves left to do so.  Would they then confiscate all the BTC on their platform and disappear, or try to use future user fees to stay in business?  It would be interesting to watch for sure and if I held a lot of funds on some gambling site that had already paid out based on the election results, I would keep a watchful eye on the situation and consider withdrawing anything I couldn't afford to lose.

I'm not aware of any smaller books that are actually acting as 'the book'.  These days there are the giant established books, and then there are a few odds providers that run the back end of most crypto betting sites. 

I would expect the established books to take the hit and pay Trump bets.  If they didn't, it would do serious damage to their reputation. (Paddy power actually paid out Clinton bets a week or two before the 2016 election as a publicity stunt.  In the end they probably still made out ahead after the MSM ran with it and gave them tons of exposure)

For the rest I would expect the odds providers to take the hit, and if they ran off then you'd see some smaller books that don't have the cash or rep to protect fold up.  

I know Stake came out and said they were paying Biden bets out of pocket because their odds provider was planning on waiting till Jan and they didn't want all the money tied up for that long.  They were open about being on the hook if Trump does find a way to win.

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I don't have any skin in the game but am curious what these sites who have already paid out would do if somehow Trump's lawyers worked some sort of legal magic to actually keep him in the white house.  I wonder if they would then pay out the other side of the bet or would even have the reserves left to do so.  Would they then confiscate all the BTC on their platform and disappear, or try to use future user fees to stay in business?  It would be interesting to watch for sure and if I held a lot of funds on some gambling site that had already paid out based on the election results, I would keep a watchful eye on the situation and consider withdrawing anything I couldn't afford to lose.
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Predictit settled this morning.
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BetFair settled the bets with Biden as the winner.

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

Good to know, so slowly the betting sites have settle the bets, if a site still has not settled the bets until now, then maybe we should feel nervous about that as they might make an exit scam. Congratulations to the winners, the delayed of settling the bet was a blessing in disguise.
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Even Vegas had clear Trump was gonna win as he was priced @1.07 when i went to sleeep.
No they didn't.

Trump lied about his odds the 'so called bookies' had on him, and now you're repeating it as if it were fact.  I'm guessing you don't even realize you're not telling the truth though, so here:

1- You can't bet on politics in Vegas.
2- The best chance any book gave him was ~70% (1.4) around midnight, after he was projected to win Florida but before any other swing states had reported enough votes.




🤡 i didnt even read that tweet. I was following live odds in stake and bet365 and he was 1.07 before i went to sleep. Think whatever you want. We will talk again in one month😉

Nope.  Trump was never 1.07 to win on bet365.  Not a chance.  Don't fool yourself.

Here are the average odds of all the major books (including bet365) from the morning of the election till the weekend.



You're claiming 'vegas' gave Trump a ~94% (1.07) chance of winning before you went to bed....maybe it was while you were dreaming?  
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Votes decide elections, not bets.

I was about to post about betbtc already settled the bets, but when I read the previous page, I saw they already posted.
Hopefully the other sites have already settled the bets as well so everyone will be happy, especially now that bitcoin has already hit a new ATH.

Actually some will be happy with the delay, the BTC they got for their win is worth a lot more than 1 month ago ! Time for coke and hookers !
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Even Vegas had clear Trump was gonna win as he was priced @1.07 when i went to sleeep.
No they didn't.

Trump lied about his odds the 'so called bookies' had on him, and now you're repeating it as if it were fact.  I'm guessing you don't even realize you're not telling the truth though, so here:

1- You can't bet on politics in Vegas.
2- The best chance any book gave him was ~70% (1.4) around midnight, after he was projected to win Florida but before any other swing states had reported enough votes.




🤡 i didnt even read that tweet. I was following live odds in stake and bet365 and he was 1.07 before i went to sleep. Think whatever you want. We will talk again in one month😉
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Even Vegas had clear Trump was gonna win as he was priced @1.07 when i went to sleeep.
No they didn't.

Trump lied about his odds the 'so called bookies' had on him, and now you're repeating it as if it were fact.  I'm guessing you don't even realize you're not telling the truth though, so here:

1- You can't bet on politics in Vegas.
2- The best chance any book gave him was ~70% (1.4) around midnight, after he was projected to win Florida but before any other swing states had reported enough votes.



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Hope this thread isnt deleted at least until 20 january hahaha gonna laugh a lot that day

No it wont yet this topic being discussed is relevant or isn't over yet on the sense that there had been still some decisions to be known on upcoming January.

Overall why would bookies do still hope that there's some chance of changing some decision or outcome? Biden already won as the President.
Bookies are just way too ensuring things too much.

Yes he won thanks to clearly fraud on the states we all know. Trump will be next president once it is proved in January. Even Vegas had clear Trump was gonna win as he was priced @1.07 when i went to sleeep. Then suddenly all mail votes went for Biden in those key states😂 Just wait and trust the plan. This is similar to a sport fixing but with the difference that in just one month it will be proved and result will be changed👍
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Hope this thread isnt deleted at least until 20 january hahaha gonna laugh a lot that day

No it wont yet this topic being discussed is relevant or isn't over yet on the sense that there had been still some decisions to be known on upcoming January.

Overall why would bookies do still hope that there's some chance of changing some decision or outcome? Biden already won as the President.
Bookies are just way too ensuring things too much.
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Hope this thread isnt deleted at least until 20 january hahaha gonna laugh a lot that day
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Now even electoral college decided, literally the thing that suppose to pick the president has decided. What are they defending now?
I guess sportsbook have already settled the bets, betbtc confirmed it here.
All 2020 US Presidential bets have been settled at BetBTC.

We appreciate your patience.  Wink

Therefore, I believe other sportsbook have also settled the bets already, otherwise we will see some post here complaining.
Silence means they are already satisfied and enjoying their big winning.

I really think they are paid already that's true that if they didn't get their payouts some people here will complain already. Well it's pretty obvious that Biden won the election just this Trump can't accept it.

I've read in the forum that there are sites that have already settled the bet early, before December 15, I can say they did a great job because the decision was not a messed, Biden still wins.
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Now even electoral college decided, literally the thing that suppose to pick the president has decided. What are they defending now?
I guess sportsbook have already settled the bets, betbtc confirmed it here.
All 2020 US Presidential bets have been settled at BetBTC.

We appreciate your patience.  Wink

Therefore, I believe other sportsbook have also settled the bets already, otherwise we will see some post here complaining.
Silence means they are already satisfied and enjoying their big winning.

I really think they are paid already that's true that if they didn't get their payouts some people here will complain already. Well it's pretty obvious that Biden won the election just this Trump can't accept it.
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Now even electoral college decided, literally the thing that suppose to pick the president has decided. What are they defending now?
I guess sportsbook have already settled the bets, betbtc confirmed it here.
All 2020 US Presidential bets have been settled at BetBTC.

We appreciate your patience.  Wink

Therefore, I believe other sportsbook have also settled the bets already, otherwise we will see some post here complaining.
Silence means they are already satisfied and enjoying their big winning.
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For over a month now all the trump fanatics had just one thing they could ever say "media doesn't decide the winner" and that didn't even made any sense neither, they are idiots so they just got whatever they heard from some other person and use it against elections, no trump fan was smart enough to realize that media doesn't just make up stuff when it comes to factual stuff, the election results wasn't shown on media by just "guess" it was fact, it was official numbers given by the officials, literally same numbers given to government was given to public as well but they didn't see that as official and said media wasn't deciding the winner, idiotic but still easily moved past.

Now even electoral college decided, literally the thing that suppose to pick the president has decided. What are they defending now?
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