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Quote from: aesma on December 05, 2020, 05:28:06 PM

The only thing Trump can do is a coup or starting some kind of civil war. If that happens (I mean a violent coup, because what he's doing is already akin to a coup, for some), then we'll have to worry about more important stuff than bets on websites, and these websites are likely to all go bankrupt along with half the US companies...

Just to be able to stay as president? Sounds like what a country with social instability would do. Something along the lines of a Castro or Noreaga. Sad

He does still have the rioting happening in several states to fall back on if this coup or civil war doesn't transpire for him.

There was a rally he held yesterday in Georgia where there was a big screen showing his so called evidence of the democrats flushing his ballots down the toilet.
So this was the evidence he was going to bring to the courts in overturning the polls? Undecided

Very weak substance for any judge not to throw out of court just on the basis of having the audacity of even trying.

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Quote from: aesma on December 05, 2020, 05:28:06 PM

The only thing Trump can do is a coup or starting some kind of civil war. If that happens (I mean a violent coup, because what he's doing is already akin to a coup, for some), then we'll have to worry about more important stuff than bets on websites, and these websites are likely to all go bankrupt along with half the US companies...

The way I see it, it seems it will not happen anytime soon, Trump does not have the support of the people, he is a sore loser who does not want to go down from his position, but people have spoken, soon it will be announce that Biden won a clean election and Trump had to step down.

Let's be more concern about the grading of bet in this thread, forget about the worst case scenario mate.

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The only thing Trump can do is a coup or starting some kind of civil war. If that happens (I mean a violent coup, because what he's doing is already akin to a coup, for some), then we'll have to worry about more important stuff than bets on websites, and these websites are likely to all go bankrupt along with half the US companies...

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Quote from: jaberwock on December 05, 2020, 12:59:47 PM

With now California officially certified, there is literally ZERO way that Trump could stay president. That is the topic here isn't it, for all the people who had 2 IQ to rub against, you would have realized that Biden won and it would be easily provable and there were never a single case of fraud that was helping Trump's case, if there were any that they could have proved, they would have done that already.

However sportsbooks that denied payment knew this too, they knew that Biden won, they knew that they would eventually have to pay, they knew the longer they wait, the result wouldn't change. What they have done is to manage disenfranchise the people who wager there, and caused them to find another place to gamble, which really hurts them as well, so it was a bad move.

It's not about whether Trump can prove something or not, whether he will win the court or not. The fact is that the president should be officially announced by the electoral college. Only at this moment, by law, the president is considered elected. Large media are not a college of electors, so some bookmakers are waiting for official recognition of Biden as president. As long as there is at least 1 chance that Trump can change something, they will not make payments.

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With now California officially certified, there is literally ZERO way that Trump could stay president. That is the topic here isn't it, for all the people who had 2 IQ to rub against, you would have realized that Biden won and it would be easily provable and there were never a single case of fraud that was helping Trump's case, if there were any that they could have proved, they would have done that already.

However sportsbooks that denied payment knew this too, they knew that Biden won, they knew that they would eventually have to pay, they knew the longer they wait, the result wouldn't change. What they have done is to manage disenfranchise the people who wager there, and caused them to find another place to gamble, which really hurts them as well, so it was a bad move.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 04, 2020, 08:12:26 AM

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Quote from: Spaffin on December 03, 2020, 09:26:52 AM

According to the results of the US presidential elections, Biden won more than 80 million votes of his voters, which is a historical indicator in the history of the country, and despite the fact that this is a clear indicator of Victory, there is still a long time before January 6, 2021 when the chairman sounds the name of the winner. in this connection, many publications are talking about some kind of revenge. I can't figure out how Trump still has a chance to bypass Biden?

There is no possible way for Trump to reverse the results. All these revenge theories etc are bullcrap promoted by those media networks that heavily favor the republicans and stand against the Democrats.

Meanwhile, majority of the world has already acknowledged Biden as the new POTUS while the minority are in denial for various reasons.

Haha, you are absolutely right, the world knows Biden is already the winner, however, Trump seems not giving up the fight yet because in his mind he thought he won, and accusing Biden's camp of cheating him, that will never be prove, but if there's still line available until now, I won't be betting anymore.

This is the result when you are just too confident that those things into your mind will be always happening but when reality do slapped you in the face then thats the

thing that cant really be or hardly accepted by someone who have this kind of behavior and this old man does have this kind of characteristic and even if the election is over

he tries to mess up everything and trying to claim that he had been cheated by the opposing side.Most of bookies had already give out the results but there are still
few who do wait up for those court cases which i can say its pointless.

Quote from: Tessnik on December 04, 2020, 08:53:47 AM

At this point I believe all betting sites have pay out to Biden winning but I still know a few will delay due to Court cases and will pay out when the president get swear in January.

They are just holding up for that long because the result wont most likely be favoring on Trumps side. Its clear whose the winner but this old hag cant really move on.

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Quote from: Tessnik on December 04, 2020, 08:53:47 AM

At this point I believe all betting sites have pay out to Biden winning but I still know a few will delay due to Court cases and will pay out when the president get swear in January.

I believe major sportsbook has not graded the bet yet.
This information though not updated but I think it's still relevant until now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2020/11/13/even-the-bookies-want-the-election-to-be-over-and-the-betting-to-stop/?sh=39db35e63c05

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Even though Joseph Biden has been declared President-elect by every major news network, the Electoral College still must certify the results. All the while, Trump continues to spread misinformation about a rigged election. This means the gambling books aren’t settling bets yet, leaving bettors and bookies in limbo. One betting platform in the U.K. is holding a handle of nearly $840 million.

More information ; https://www.vox.com/21539173/electoral-college-explained-2020-trump-biden

Also, we can observed that we haven't seen post in this thread that bettors are already paid with their winnings.

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At this point I believe all betting sites have pay out to Biden winning but I still know a few will delay due to Court cases and will pay out when the president get swear in January.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 03, 2020, 11:13:51 AM

Quote from: Spaffin on December 03, 2020, 09:26:52 AM

According to the results of the US presidential elections, Biden won more than 80 million votes of his voters, which is a historical indicator in the history of the country, and despite the fact that this is a clear indicator of Victory, there is still a long time before January 6, 2021 when the chairman sounds the name of the winner. in this connection, many publications are talking about some kind of revenge. I can't figure out how Trump still has a chance to bypass Biden?

There is no possible way for Trump to reverse the results. All these revenge theories etc are bullcrap promoted by those media networks that heavily favor the republicans and stand against the Democrats.

Meanwhile, majority of the world has already acknowledged Biden as the new POTUS while the minority are in denial for various reasons.

Haha, you are absolutely right, the world knows Biden is already the winner, however, Trump seems not giving up the fight yet because in his mind he thought he won, and accusing Biden's camp of cheating him, that will never be prove, but if there's still line available until now, I won't be betting anymore.

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Quote from: Spaffin on December 03, 2020, 09:26:52 AM

According to the results of the US presidential elections, Biden won more than 80 million votes of his voters, which is a historical indicator in the history of the country, and despite the fact that this is a clear indicator of Victory, there is still a long time before January 6, 2021 when the chairman sounds the name of the winner. in this connection, many publications are talking about some kind of revenge. I can't figure out how Trump still has a chance to bypass Biden?

There is no possible way for Trump to reverse the results. All these revenge theories etc are bullcrap promoted by those media networks that heavily favor the republicans and stand against the Democrats.

Meanwhile, majority of the world has already acknowledged Biden as the new POTUS while the minority are in denial for various reasons.

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According to the results of the US presidential elections, Biden won more than 80 million votes of his voters, which is a historical indicator in the history of the country, and despite the fact that this is a clear indicator of Victory, there is still a long time before January 6, 2021 when the chairman sounds the name of the winner. in this connection, many publications are talking about some kind of revenge. I can't figure out how Trump still has a chance to bypass Biden?

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I would say the reason why Trump got a huge win was the fact that Tea Party got involved with republicans instead of being a separate entity, think of it like Bernie Sanders and the likes of progressive leftists taking over democratic party as well (which they are growing in numbers too).

Trump is not the old kind of conservative party person, nor people around him neither, he is more of a person who would like to take the party a bit more right, being a conservative was not seen as a bad thing, it was actually quite cool for a very long time, but Trump made conservative sound more like racist thing, which it wasn't and it isn't but he took that and ran with it.

As long as Tea Party people of Republicans stand, there is no way that party can survive. Plus we should bring back "country over party" instead of "if my party member kills 200 million Americans, I still can't support other party" type of idiocy.

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Quote from: squatz1 on December 01, 2020, 12:40:24 PM

It's understandable right now to be like -- What the fuck, Trump is crazy and there's no chance he can continue to lead this party. But the guy literally just did a hostile takeover of the party and is a reason for a lot of down the ballot Republicans to even have a job right now. (Ex: See Ron DeSantis, as he would never be the Florida Gov if not for the Trump endorsement)

Valid points, but the biggest point that you are forgetting is his horrible handling of the pandemic which is a rare event basically. He made such a royal mess out of it that you can literally write essays discussing all his errors.

He literally got affected himself. If he couldn't take care of his own health, how could he take care of all the Americans depending on him? This one question is one of the primary reasons why he lost against Biden.

It was a huge test and he failed miserably. As you said, the republicans won't abandon him right away, but will do so slowly and steadily over time.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 01, 2020, 06:40:13 AM

Quote from: squatz1 on December 01, 2020, 03:08:20 AM

Donald Trump still controls the base off the party, they still love him and will continue to stand with him. There's no way for either one of us to know at this very moment who is right though, going to have to wait until after January on this one.

This article is just one of many examples why the Republicans are worried about Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/30/us/politics/georgia-republicans-trump-kemp.amp.html

He is growing paranoid with every passing day and it's only a matter of time before more and more Republicans lose faith in him. They will probably find a much better replacement in first half of 2021.

Oh I totally know that they are worried as we've seen story after story about that, but all of these worries have been made privately as it is NOT popular within the Republican party to go against Trump and it most likely wont be for sometime. His support will erode over time, though once Biden begins to act like a Dem and does some of the leftward shift stuff Trump, or someone like him, is going to gain relevance again.

It's understandable right now to be like -- What the fuck, Trump is crazy and there's no chance he can continue to lead this party. But the guy literally just did a hostile takeover of the party and is a reason for a lot of down the ballot Republicans to even have a job right now. (Ex: See Ron DeSantis, as he would never be the Florida Gov if not for the Trump endorsement)

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Quote from: squatz1 on December 01, 2020, 02:40:45 AM

Trump will maintain his grip over the party through doing this. Raising money and continuing to build his contacts that he'll be able to use when the midterms come around.

Trump isn't a politician though. He has no grip on the party in the traditional sense, instead he is popular with the party's voters, so the politicians want to be associated with him. Now that he has lost, they will still pay lip service to Trump, but they will want less and less association with him. Using him in the midterms would probably be a losing proposition, by then the GOP will try to make people forget about Trump.

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Quote from: squatz1 on December 01, 2020, 03:08:20 AM

Donald Trump still controls the base off the party, they still love him and will continue to stand with him. There's no way for either one of us to know at this very moment who is right though, going to have to wait until after January on this one.

This article is just one of many examples why the Republicans are worried about Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/30/us/politics/georgia-republicans-trump-kemp.amp.html

He is growing paranoid with every passing day and it's only a matter of time before more and more Republicans lose faith in him. They will probably find a much better replacement in first half of 2021.

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on December 01, 2020, 03:23:54 AM

I read in the news that Biden is also winning in the latter states. This election puppet show has been secretly going on for a long time.
It would be nice if that came to an end and that everyone knows where they stand, also for the people who have placed a stake on this.

It has never been different in the USA President Election?
The Media announces it every election but the official result will be made when the Electoral College declares a winner.
Its not a puppet show...
The official result will be when the EC declares the winner.
Dont know how the election works, dont bet on it?

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I read in the news that Biden is also winning in the latter states. This election puppet show has been secretly going on for a long time.
It would be nice if that came to an end and that everyone knows where they stand, also for the people who have placed a stake on this.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 01, 2020, 02:58:09 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 30, 2020, 04:02:23 PM

Even if you're a die hard Trump supporter why not put your money on Biden to recover your losses or invest in Bitcoin instead?

Firstly, they care more about Trump recovering his presidency than recovering their own money. Also, the odds on a Trump win right now are very high which is why they would need to invest small amounts in order to win big.

Most hardcore Trump supporters won't be able to digest the truth right away and will need time to get their head around it based on what I am observing.

Quote from: squatz1 on December 01, 2020, 02:40:45 AM

Trump will maintain his grip over the party through doing this. Raising money and continuing to build his contacts that he'll be able to use when the midterms come around.

I disagree. Trump has lost his grip over his own family. Most republicans are probably focusing on a new nominee since Trump has embarrassed them by becoming the first President to not concede honorably in US history.

Not sure if we're watchin the same post election analysis stuff, but even though he's it's been awhile since a first term president has lost (First Bush), it hasn't caused every single GOP Senator to revolt against him. Pretty sure at this very moment more members of the GOP Senate delegation have had COVID then have called on Trump to concede (heard it a few days ago, could be wrong now)

Donald Trump still controls the base off the party, they still love him and will continue to stand with him. There's no way for either one of us to know at this very moment who is right though, going to have to wait until after January on this one.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 30, 2020, 04:02:23 PM

Even if you're a die hard Trump supporter why not put your money on Biden to recover your losses or invest in Bitcoin instead?

Firstly, they care more about Trump recovering his presidency than recovering their own money. Also, the odds on a Trump win right now are very high which is why they would need to invest small amounts in order to win big.

Most hardcore Trump supporters won't be able to digest the truth right away and will need time to get their head around it based on what I am observing.

Quote from: squatz1 on December 01, 2020, 02:40:45 AM

Trump will maintain his grip over the party through doing this. Raising money and continuing to build his contacts that he'll be able to use when the midterms come around.

I disagree. Trump has lost his grip over his own family. Most republicans are probably focusing on a new nominee since Trump has embarrassed them by becoming the first President to not concede honorably in US history.

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