Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election - page 5.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 28, 2020, 07:35:15 AM

Quote from: BIN-BIN on November 27, 2020, 06:54:46 AM

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 26, 2020, 06:19:09 PM

betfair still has biden at 1.07. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

Would that mean you can still bet on that odds now? I guess they are giving free money here... I never gamble in the site yet so I'm unfamiliar with it, but on a regular sportsbook, crypto sportsbook to specific, odds are not anymore available.

I believe that is an error because most betting sites have paid out to winner and have long got it done with the US election, but some that have withhold payment to winners due to legal letigation between the two contestant's. We await the outcome

It's not an error, check the link provided and that line is still available, as long as it stays there, it means the result is not formally announce yet, and how can you be so sure that most gambling sites have already graded this certain betting event?

he wont say it if he didnt witness it but those sites that pay already graded it on thier own but that may not be official because they dont want thier costumers to wait for their payments .

they could also be basing on what the majority thinks because majority thinks that biden is the winner and there are minorities think that the result should be checked again . betfair was a fair site i believed and they their name says it all . they wait because they want to be fair to everyone . anyway i check the link and its really there , the game is still on going

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Quote from: aesma on November 28, 2020, 02:30:53 AM

I used VyprVPN I get with my Giganews subscription. I haven't registered on betfair because I don't see how I could use it anyway, I'd need a foreign bank account to do the fiat transactions. If something goes wrong I wouldn't be protected as I would have been "cheating" their system, so I'd rather not risk it.

You could contact Betfair support and ask them if it's possible to place the bet without any issues. I don't really think they have issues with VPNs as long as you aren't doing something illegal.

https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31496933/best-vpn#flvWelcomeHeader

Above link clearly proves that they allow VPN related discussions within their community. I would still clarify with their support though just to be on the safe side.

This is how I usually deal with VPN related scenarios on sports betting and gambling sites. Just my 2 cents.

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Quote from: BIN-BIN on November 27, 2020, 06:54:46 AM

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 26, 2020, 06:19:09 PM

betfair still has biden at 1.07. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

Would that mean you can still bet on that odds now? I guess they are giving free money here... I never gamble in the site yet so I'm unfamiliar with it, but on a regular sportsbook, crypto sportsbook to specific, odds are not anymore available.

I believe that is an error because most betting sites have paid out to winner and have long got it done with the US election, but some that have withhold payment to winners due to legal letigation between the two contestant's. We await the outcome

It's not an error, check the link provided and that line is still available, as long as it stays there, it means the result is not formally announce yet, and how can you be so sure that most gambling sites have already graded this certain betting event?

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I used VyprVPN I get with my Giganews subscription. I haven't registered on betfair because I don't see how I could use it anyway, I'd need a foreign bank account to do the fiat transactions. If something goes wrong I wouldn't be protected as I would have been "cheating" their system, so I'd rather not risk it.

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Quote from: aesma on November 27, 2020, 11:07:22 AM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 26, 2020, 06:19:09 PM

Quote from: aesma on November 26, 2020, 03:19:49 PM

figmentofmyass : you still need a large amount of capital to really earn from that bet but OK, where can I take it ?

betfair still has biden at 1.07. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

I had to use a VPN to check, but indeed it's legit. On the blue column people have bet for Biden to the tune of about 5 million pounds, and enough people have bet enough money on other candidates (even ones that really can't happen like Michelle Obama) to yield 5% for a Biden win. Not sure what the columns more to the right are.

Hey aesma did you use a free VPN to be able to connect to Betfair? Have you been able to place a bet? If yes which one it is please.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 27, 2020, 11:53:22 AM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 26, 2020, 02:09:15 PM

there are still multiple ongoing recounts and not all lawsuits have been thrown out.

i agree it's extremely unlikely, but if it's literally impossible, you should place a bet on biden at 1.07 right now. why are you complaining here instead of grabbing all that free money?

I guess you are one of the very few minority who actually believes that Trump still has a chance. This isn't Gore vs Bush. He doesn't have any chance plain and simple.

Also, I don't have a huge bankroll to take advantage of the current Biden odds even though it's free money which is why investing now is pointless for me.

Well, we do have our own will and saying up things on whats currently happening but same as you said where i dont see a chance for Trump to fight for this one.Why he cant really just move on?

Free money with Biden on 1.07? I do somewhat agree on this point and this doesnt talk about the issue about believing for some Trump's chance.

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 26, 2020, 02:09:15 PM

there are still multiple ongoing recounts and not all lawsuits have been thrown out.

i agree it's extremely unlikely, but if it's literally impossible, you should place a bet on biden at 1.07 right now. why are you complaining here instead of grabbing all that free money?

I guess you are one of the very few minority who actually believes that Trump still has a chance. This isn't Gore vs Bush. He doesn't have any chance plain and simple.

Also, I don't have a huge bankroll to take advantage of the current Biden odds even though it's free money which is why investing now is pointless for me.

Quote from: Botnake on November 27, 2020, 05:47:11 AM

Would that mean you can still bet on that odds now? I guess they are giving free money here... I never gamble in the site yet so I'm unfamiliar with it, but on a regular sportsbook, crypto sportsbook to specific, odds are not anymore available.

You can obviously bet on those odds which is why it is free money. Take advantage of it if you have a huge bankroll and if you are willing to take a slight risk.

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 26, 2020, 06:19:09 PM

Quote from: aesma on November 26, 2020, 03:19:49 PM

figmentofmyass : you still need a large amount of capital to really earn from that bet but OK, where can I take it ?

betfair still has biden at 1.07. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

I had to use a VPN to check, but indeed it's legit. On the blue column people have bet for Biden to the tune of about 5 million pounds, and enough people have bet enough money on other candidates (even ones that really can't happen like Michelle Obama) to yield 5% for a Biden win. Not sure what the columns more to the right are.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 27, 2020, 05:47:11 AM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 26, 2020, 06:19:09 PM

betfair still has biden at 1.07. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

Would that mean you can still bet on that odds now? I guess they are giving free money here... I never gamble in the site yet so I'm unfamiliar with it, but on a regular sportsbook, crypto sportsbook to specific, odds are not anymore available.

I believe that is an error because most betting sites have paid out to winner and have long got it done with the US election, but some that have withhold payment to winners due to legal letigation between the two contestant's. We await the outcome

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 26, 2020, 06:19:09 PM

betfair still has biden at 1.07. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

Would that mean you can still bet on that odds now? I guess they are giving free money here... I never gamble in the site yet so I'm unfamiliar with it, but on a regular sportsbook, crypto sportsbook to specific, odds are not anymore available.

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Quote from: aesma on November 26, 2020, 03:19:49 PM

figmentofmyass : you still need a large amount of capital to really earn from that bet but OK, where can I take it ?

betfair still has biden at 1.07. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441

according to nate silver's tweet from 8 hours ago, betting markets are still giving trump a >10% chance, although i'm not sure what books he's talking about. https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1331966432335302658

as far as bitcoin sportsbooks go, i dunno where you can still make a bet. FTX trump tokens are still trading though. TRUMPGO (biden wins by february 1st) is trading at $0.889, implying 1.111 odds to back biden. https://ftx.com/en/trump-tokens

if i had a poloniex or FTX account (and weren't in a prohibited jurisdiction) i'd probably take that trade right now.

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figmentofmyass : you still need a large amount of capital to really earn from that bet but OK, where can I take it ?

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Quote from: Saint-loup on November 25, 2020, 07:37:45 PM

Well in this case the "common sense" as you say would be to offer a refund to bettors who don't want to wait several months.
If there is an issue on an outcome the "common sense" is to cancel the bet, and not to keep players money for several months. Sad

no, common sense says that punters shouldn't place bets if they can't wait for official results. elections are not football games. they are a complex legal process.

bookies can't take bets for many months (which affect the odds they pay out) and then just issue refunds to whoever wants one. that's crazy. they would risk insolvency.

Quote from: Haunebu on November 26, 2020, 03:12:14 AM

At this point, it is literally impossible for the results to be overturned. All legal cases are being thrown out while the recounts changed nothing.

there are still multiple ongoing recounts and not all lawsuits have been thrown out.

i agree it's extremely unlikely, but if it's literally impossible, you should place a bet on biden at 1.07 right now. why are you complaining here instead of grabbing all that free money?

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You know there is no way Trump can make a comeback when even republican filled supreme court throws out his case. Plus he already started to make the transition of power process as well while still trying to claim he won, dude is basically doing one thing and saying another at this point. Which isn't shocking, this is trump we are talking about he is known to be a supreme liar himself.

In any case, for the people who would like to see Biden as president (because people who think trump will still win are too out of their minds) do not be worried, everything goes perfectly according to law, Biden IS the president elect and he is going to be president without any problems, if you are ever worried because of all the talks, remember they are all lies and there is nothing wrong.

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MyBookie [.] ag, another incredibly popular offshore fiat/crypto sportsbook has began paying out 2020 Election bets.

Not only that, Trump bettors are getting their bets refunded as 3x rollover Freeplays.

Should the results get overturned, Trump bettors will be paid in full.

Source: https://twitter.com/mybookiebet/status/1331805130048614402

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 26, 2020, 03:12:14 AM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 25, 2020, 05:13:49 PM

that's because they have far less financial exposure than larger books. they can afford it.

betfair has to pay out $1.36 billion (and counting) in bets on this. what happens if they pay out and then the results are overturned?

No book can probably afford to take a hit especially during these pandemic times in my opinion. They were willing to take risks and we're applauded for it while the big sites are being criticised for playing it too safe.

At this point, it is literally impossible for the results to be overturned. All legal cases are being thrown out while the recounts changed nothing.

This election shouldn't be compared to Gore vs Bush which was far closer in comparison while the vote margin is way higher here even though it isn't a landslide.

I totally agree that this election is much more difficult than at any time in past years. I believe that the situation is still not certain, although the winner is already obvious, but due to the fact that Trump deliberately created a tense situation in any conflict places in order to create certain problems for Biden, the game will continue.

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 25, 2020, 05:13:49 PM

that's because they have far less financial exposure than larger books. they can afford it.

betfair has to pay out $1.36 billion (and counting) in bets on this. what happens if they pay out and then the results are overturned?

No book can probably afford to take a hit especially during these pandemic times in my opinion. They were willing to take risks and we're applauded for it while the big sites are being criticised for playing it too safe.

At this point, it is literally impossible for the results to be overturned. All legal cases are being thrown out while the recounts changed nothing.

This election shouldn't be compared to Gore vs Bush which was far closer in comparison while the vote margin is way higher here even though it isn't a landslide.

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 25, 2020, 05:13:49 PM

Absolutely pathetic. They should have informed all punters regarding this rule before the elections started since very few read the T&C due to how complicated they are. Am seriously surprised to see such top books and exchanges delay player winnings like this

common sense says that until the election is certified, the results aren't official. i remember saying a couple months ago that any close election is gonna end up just like 2000, with weeks or even months of recounts, legal fights.

on that note, a pennsylvania judge just halted election certification proceedings amidst the legal fight over mail-in votes. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-judge-halts-election-certification-mail-in-vote-lawsuit

The court decision in Pennsylvania has no impact on the presidential race. They have already certified the results in favor of Biden and chosen electors. It will only have an impact on pending races which have not been certified. It is not likely that this will result in a decertification of the presidential race since the state supreme court has already thrown out other lawsuits attempting to invalidate hundreds of thousands of votes.

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on November 25, 2020, 05:13:49 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on November 25, 2020, 11:35:18 AM

Quote from: rdbase on November 25, 2020, 09:52:36 AM

Pinnacle, Betfair, and those who affiliated with these books still have not paid out these winning bets yet and won't until probably January 20th when he has to step down even if he has not conceded/saying he has lost by then.
This would be the very last date the bookies would need to settle their bets.

Absolutely pathetic. They should have informed all punters regarding this rule before the elections started since very few read the T&C due to how complicated they are. Am seriously surprised to see such top books and exchanges delay player winnings like this

common sense says that until the election is certified, the results aren't official. i remember saying a couple months ago that any close election is gonna end up just like 2000, with weeks or even months of recounts, legal fights.

on that note, a pennsylvania judge just halted election certification proceedings amidst the legal fight over mail-in votes. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-judge-halts-election-certification-mail-in-vote-lawsuit

it would be one thing if the election were a landslide. since it wasn't......it ain't over until it's over. the silver lining here is that if you really believe biden is guaranteed to win, you can get all the free money you want at 1.05 odds.

Quote from: Haunebu on November 25, 2020, 11:35:18 AM

Many books which are way less popular than them in comparison already paid out Biden bets even though they were aware of the risks.

that's because they have far less financial exposure than larger books. they can afford it.

betfair has to pay out $1.36 billion (and counting) in bets on this. what happens if they pay out and then the results are overturned?

Well in this case the "common sense" as you say would be to offer a refund to bettors who don't want to wait several months.
If there is an issue on an outcome the "common sense" is to cancel the bet, and not to keep players money for several months. Sad

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