Topic: SRBMiner Cryptonight AMD GPU Miner V1.9.3 - native algo switching - page 181. (Read 237261 times)

We don't have access to miner code, we finally don't know how fee works on each of them. And now I ask me.

You as a developer should know there is no miner that works the way you described.
Name me just one that works this way.

I can believe a newbie thinks it works this way, but you are probably not fresh in the mining scene, so this is not the first miner you used.

For me, since begining, it was logic that fees was calculated for day period, not for "session" period. But it wasn't case.
I mean, if i launch miner 1 time for 24h or 24 times for 1h, fees have to be the same.

2 of my rigs have started SRBMiner 55 and 59 times in last 24h ...

I'm not telling I don't wan't to pay your fees, I'm telling I want to pay 0.85% a day, not 0.85%/13 each time I launch miner.

Your job is great, your miner is the best on my cards, it makes me money, it's normal you have your fees. But not more than it's annonced.

let me ask you something, and im done with the devfee chat.

When the first devfee out of 12 was after two hours, and you stopped/started the miner for example every hour, hour and a half. Sometimes maybe every 3 hours. It could happen that it never mined the devfee for 24h, or maybe 1-2-3 times for 24h. And that was ok for you. You got what you wanted, but i got maybe a 10th of the 0.85% devfee. That was fair and OK with you.
Now that i just reorganised the fee mining (so its still 0.85%), and this way im sure i get minimum the 1/13th of the 0.85% (wow, so much), suddenly that is a problem to you.

Don't you guys see how unfair you are?

I am not going to change the way the devfee is mined. If you can't settle with this, you are welcome to use the older versions where you can just skip the devfee mining part easily.

Well, I'm dev too, but not at your level for sure.
But ( for exemple ) write in a file when miner starts/stops and fees periods, and check that at miner launch is not so complicated.

EDIT1 : I know you listen the community, may be this can be a feature in a future version !?
EDIT2 : We don't have information in log when switching on devfee ?

tried new Algo CN Red today...works one hour but miner closed and now i get "EXCEPTION 90012. FAULTY HDMI DEVICE INT3H."

whats wrong?

you can relaunch it every 5 minutes, or 1 hour or 25 days, that is not my business how you use it I can't know for how long are you going to use the miner, so i can't predict what will the 0.85% be.
That is why there is a 24 hour period. And period.

logic is working as expected.

Claymore miners mine fee every 15 minutes, then every hour.
So it's a bug ?

If I relaunch miner every hour, fees are 24 periods, right ?

Aha... finally somebody raised this problem.
I got the same issue, somehow, devfee appear in 4 or 5 minutes after the miner started.
So, if you quite often to switch to other coin, I really understand your frustration about this logic.

I think doctor needs to check it... somehow, logic doesn't work as expected.

sounds so simple, yet it's so complicated.

Have a random timer variable for the first mining dev fee session (within 15 mins or so). Put this in some cache file?  
Since the user won't know when the dev fee kicks in and whenever miner restarts you can access that timer value and decide based on that to mine dev fee or continue user mining?

I did not reinvent the wheel, every closed source miner that has a fee works this way. I don't understand what's all this wondering now, like you did not know how it works.

The rules are simple :

0.85% is the fee for 24hr mining.
That means 85660 sec mining for user and 740 sec for the devfee.
There are 13 devfee minings in 24 hours , so every mining period takes ~55-56 sec.

The first devfee of 13 total is in the first 15 minutes. If you kill the miner process and start it again, it will again mine the first fee of 13 total in the first 15 minutes.
So when you mined the first devfee its not 0.85% . 0.85% is 13xdevfee's.

So no, fee's aren't more than 0.85%.

Interesting this words on devfee and restarting miner ...
I'm using also this method : switching my rigs on the best coin many times per hour/day. Not for not to pay fees but for mining coin with best profit at the moment.
So if fees are launched every time miner starts, fees are more than 0.85% ...
I will try to monitor that ...

Pa eto mislim da smo onda kvit, doslo je do nesporazuma koji smo sad razjasnili. Nastavljamo na PM, jer nema smisla da se ljutis, nacicemo ti resenje.

Ok to je tvoj majner pa mozes sto oces al eto posto vidis da to i nije bas tolko jasno kao sto tebi jest, jer si ipak ti napiso kod a ne mi masjneri mozda mi korisnici bas i neznamo da tvoj miner eto tebi ne daje fee ak ga ugasimo. i tako neznamo da ce tvoj miner pri svakom pokretanju uzet fee i to si mogao napisat na prvoj stranici eto da svi znaju. i moje pomaganje nije islo tebi nego zajednici koja minira al ti si potegao pitanje kak ja nisam platio fee pa sam se samo nadovezo na to- pa nisi ni ti meni platio fee za moje vrijeme trud znanje itd kako si spomenuo .A kolko fee nisam placao s prijasnjim verzijama ( a po noci jesam jer tad ne mjenajam coinove st osi mogao iz moji SS i vidit da radi miner 10tak sati) tolkko sam ti ga debelo preplatio s verzijama 1.63 i 1.6.4 jer kao sto nisam znao da ti ne dobijas fee  svakim pokretanjem, tako nisam znao ni da ja placam fee svakim pokretanjem na novijim verzijama.

Vidi ovako, da nisi znao kada se kopa fee to nije istina posto lepo pise u majneru kada kopa devfee + pise i u readme i ovde da je to svaka 2 sata, a ti si milion puta gasio i palio valjda si video i sam da ti uvek kopa u isto vreme.
Ni jedan majner ne radi na principu koji bi ti voleo, da on negde interno prati kad je kopao fee itd. NI JEDAN. Ne znam zasto si mislio da je to ovde drugacije.
Da sam nezahvalan to ne bih rekao, mislim da sam ti se svaki put zahvalio kada si mi testirao nesto, ti da nisi hteo da pomognes odbio bi me.
Sad se ponasas kao da si pola programa ti napisao, i da bez tebe majner ne bi nista valjao. Nisi ti jedini testirao za mene i pomogao da se unapredi majner (a sto je majner bolji to je i tebi bolje = brzi majner = vise para za tebe) , a ti mi jedini sad kukas ovde za nacin na koji se majnuje fee.

Nisu svi lopovi neg su lopovi oni koji izbegavaju da plate usluge majnera, na ovaj ili onaj nacin, ali izbegavaju.
A da je skrivan nacin na koji se majnuje nije istina jer em sto svaki put pisem sta sam novo dodao u kojoj verziji (ja sam kriv sto to ti ne citas), em sto se lepo vidi zutim slovima kada se majnuje fee. Ranije to nisi imao na svaka 4-5 minuta od pokretanja majnera, a sada ima.
Nemoguce da to nisi primetio.

I ne ljutim se ja, nemam sta da se ljutim, jer ti ovo nazivas problemom, a ja nazivam pokricem za svo vreme i trud i znanje koje ulazem u ovaj program.
Jer ovo sto ti radis da menjas coine 5 puta na sat, nije majner predvidjen za takav rad. A ako neko planira tako da ga koristi, pa onda eto uslova za to.

I sad ovo mozemo ovako da nastavimo do sutra, ali jedno je sigurno, nacin na koji se kopa fee necu menjati.

i mogu ti samo rec da si jako nezahvalan i svi su ti lopovi(to si vec jedanput i pokazao na forumu postovima) a ispada na kraju da si ti to skrivao jer eto ja za to nisam znao. vidio sam da si promjenio nacin i da ces uzet fee na pocetku al nigdje nisi reko da ces to uzet pri svakom pokretanju minera.Ktome kolk osa mti platio vise fee  od verzije 1.6.3 i 1.6.4 . posto sam placao fee pri svakom pokretanju i tako od verzije 1.6.3 a to nisam znao?
Da sam isao varat i gasit miner s namjerom varanja sigurno nebi tebi pomago oko njega. i tu se nisi bas pokazao kao tolerantatan. fragmente si otkrio tek kad sam ti ja otkrio kolkiki utjecaj na vege ima. .Cak si bio uvjeren da nemaju veze s nicim a pokazalo se da imaju. I onda se ljutis kad ti ukazem na problem( a ovo je problem) sto s enisi ljutio kad sam pisao da imas bolji HR od casta i stacka? malo sagledaj to i sa nase minerske strane. JA volim platit ono sto pise. ni vise ni manje. Da ti nisi dobijao fee kad ja gasim miner pojma nisam imao jer mi to zvuci prosto nevjerojatno. Da si takav proopust napravio. da ti miner ne broji sekunde koje koristis. eto meni je to nepojmljivo da nemas u mineru od pocetka.
Ktome i nice hash radi na principu da te salta na najbolji coin. Eto ja to radim sam . kad nesto daje vise novac ja kopam taj coin. kad nesto drugo daje vise novaca onda kopam taj. Sto bi trebo kopat 2 sata coin koji daje duplo manje od nekog drugog  da biti ili u ovom slucaju ja platio samo fee koji si naveo?

Sta mislis odakle svi oni infoi  i SS o svim mogucim algoima i coionovima=? mislis da su se sami napisali? pa valjda sam ih ja isporbavao i prosljedio tebi d aznas na cemu si i kolko koji daje i to jos u par verzija pogotovo tamo pri prelasku a 1.58 na 1.6. 1.63. 16.4 .  i ti sa d meni kukas da ja nisam placao tebi fee. st osi t imeni ili sad ovom koji ti pomaze platio? kolki si im fee dao za izgubljeno vrijeme i reklame kak je ovo super  miner? fakat si pravi ŠKOT

If this method of tracking the devfee was really a so good idea, it would be already implemented somewhere.. Too much work for nothing, as you wrote.

Well you don't have to follow conventions. Like you can advertise non-agressive dev fee mining, this could be a nice feature. Anyway I'm not here to tell anyone what to do, just saying that global book keeping is hard work for little return, but maybe you can do so when you have the non-stop watchdog take care of it.